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Rhea

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Posted: 15 years ago

#421

FOR RASH...

DAYUMMM His OMG EYES!!!😍😍😍

I am DEAD!😳😳

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sumz3

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Posted: 15 years ago

#422

Yet another BRILLIANTLY written episode! and that too with the craziest of craziest circumstances during one of the most crucial moments in Geet serial! Just superb CVs ...SUPERB! I was glued through the entire episode. So well done. This definitely goes to show how well you managed to handle the entire situation and still provide great scenes/episodes! You're back with a bang and you didn't even have to rely on your main leads! This really goes to show what you are all about! Brilliance as an entire unit.

Now some thoughts on today's episode:

Maan: hehehehe, loved how you used scenes from the past! and surprising half of which (wood chopping scene) I don't recall ever being aired. So it was purrfect! Drooled over those pecks and abs! heheheh. During yesterday's episode you showed that Maan didn't misunderstand and you re-confirmed again today. And how we questioned why he couldn't read her eyes when she was trying to tell him about Dev ... and now it's all coming back to Maan! YES. we knew it!!! We did!!! Thank you, thank you, thank you!

Geet: now how did she believe Naintara??? What happened to her faith in Maan??? I guess circumstances and being vulnerable you are susceptible to almost anything ... so Geet did falter for a bit and on second thoughts I guess that's pretty normal but her heart and mind couldn't believe it to be true ... she knows Maan better and so, so, sooooo glad she worked through her mind that she will find him and explain to him. CVs again, all of this was brilliant, just goes to show how much thought you put into making this so damn real! Hi5

Dev: LOL ... 0.5% improvement. Shouldn't he have been like jaw dropping shocked to see Naintara at the Khurana mansion??? All he gave ... LOL ... was a blank stare. At least Dev attempted to stand up to Naintara ... failure but the attempt was there. He stands between good and evil but tsk tsk alas the slave bows down to his master.

Naintara-Dev-Meera: may the cat-fight begin. hehehehe. Firstly, I couldn't believe that Naintara used Geet's line on Dev... I was like OMG she just used Geet's line and then Naintara confirmed through her thoughts! So brilliant CV's so, so, so brilliant ... I loved it. Poor poor Meera, she got totally chewed up into itty bitty pieces by the eeveel Naintara ... she was so stunned she could barely speak. Naintara as much as I hate that character, she is sooo good at being eeveel. She was just superb! Like flawlessly superb. How great she was in manipulating Dev just like that. Dev, Dev, Dev! How easily your mind sways. One confused selfish man. How can Meera love this guy!? I loved to see the shock and embarressment on Naintara's face when Dev starts howling at Naintara in front of Meera! muahahaha.

Adi Sir: no shades!!! He must be better now. =)

Adi Sir and Pinky...how cute of a couple would they be!!! teeheeheehee. Totally cute na?? And I was in shock when uncle ji let out the raaz to Adi Sir and Pinky! OMG! They know! :O but this is all leading to good and great things ... I have full faith in the CVs, directors and GHSP team!!!

Meera-Geet meet was cute yes ... but the chocolate comment was really strange. Now more importantly will Meera tell Geet that she is Dev's friend? Geet's culprit cheat of a fake husband. My thoughts, no, Geet will have not want to stay with Dev's friend and this would mean Meera will have no part in the scenes and i have a feeling Geet will probably stay with Meera.

Now I really do want Maan and Geet to meet somewhere outside ... not amongst all these people!!! We need Maaneet scenes as soon as they are back! We need Maaneet to clear the air and be on the same wavelength again ... then all is well!!!

Overall a fabulous episode! This definitely deserves a standing ovation!!! =)

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Mellowfellow

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Posted: 15 years ago

#423

@Doodle: loved your analysis as always.

Quick note on Mahabharata:
Krishna does not not try to help duryodhana. He gives both Arjuna and duryodhana the choice to choose what kind of help they want from him. Arjuna chooses Krishna and duryodhana the army. Thus Krishna supports the right cause by playing it politically correct.

Ok me is out now. Catch u all later.

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Doodle

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Posted: 15 years ago

#424

For those who are online:-

Maan and Geet ' "Faith and Understanding"

Yelloooo all my Friends, Devils, CVs, Star, Mr. Mirchandani, Swati, Richa and Nissar. Let me start by wishing "Shubho Mahalaya" or to all the non-bengalis as "Shubh Navaratri". Yes. I am so so happy as Durga Puja has started and me will be in Kolkata next Friday. To top it all it's the wonderful episode that was aired today. You will know why I am telling it wonderful in my analysis. Well Nissar and Richa just read through my analysis today and till the end because there is something definitely for you. As usual you can ignore it and throw it in the trash if you don't like.

Anyway, I should or rather must applaud Nissar and Richa to pull it off again brilliantly and I hope now they will concentrate on the side characters as well in future. Again I must say that the story has moved forward and the twists and turn of events are so much better to see now. You know all the time if you only have sweet dishes then you may catch diabetes as I say always so sometimes you need to have the savoury dishes also. Isn't it??? That is why I always mention you cannot live on romance onscreen but at the same time you need to also see the devils sometimes. You know I believe in this particular belief that "If you believe in the ONE then you also need to believe in the Other". Yes, like wise if you believe in the good then you also need to believe in the devil as well. The devils are the ones who actually make the good much better.

Now let us come to episode. Well here comes the essence of the episode. As I said it's a wonderful episode and I loved to see the faith and understanding that the lovebirds had in each other even in this crisis which was really applaudable.

Maan and Geet ' "Faith and Understanding"

Now, why am I saying faith and understanding??? Remember when I was explaining the Phase of Love and also Parineeta Metaphor I was always hinting on a relationship based on trust and truth. We also hinted on a relationship that needs to grow slow and then only it would be possible for Nissar and Richa to show that why Maan and Geet will support and believe each other even in testing times. Isn't it??? See it is very easy to break a relationship but if there is faith and trust and understanding then it would be equally tough to break that relationship. Because in that situation it is the love birds who have already seen each other in tough times and known how they have handled the situation. Being an outsider how will NT and Dadima and Dev know what the love birds have through??? NT cannot even imagine that Maan is aware of the traumatic past that Geet had been through. How much does she know Geet when she doesn't even know Maan??? Leave Maan she doesn't even know Dadima only.

Now, do you all remember that when I said on mon or tue that I loved the fact that CVs have actually played the game very nicely by making Geet tell Maan about Dev so that in future there cannot be any sort of misunderstanding between them. In future Maan will definitely connect the dots and then will figure out that Geet had already told him about Dev in the first place and he himself couldn't read her mind and can see that he will be so mentally tortured. Now, today we saw that Maan could figure out that something was definitely wrong and since he was on cloud 9 that day he actually couldn't see why Geet was upset. Obviously he has to believe Geet. Why??? Remember it's a very tough thing for a girl to confide in a man about her traumatic past no matter how much there is love between them. It's still tough but since she said so there is not much of a chance left in Maan to mistrust Geet. That is the reason I used to stress upon a relationship based on trust and understanding to Nissar.

Even for Geet also I told you all yesterday that she was vulnerable at the moment when she came back and saw that the engagement was called off. And remember I also told you that she will understand slowly once she calms down and will believe that Maan cannot believe NT. Yes it will take time but slowly she will realize that Maan cannot believe it unless he listens to her side of the story and declares his judgment by looking at her eyes. Remember both have gone through so much till now and they have come out victorious everytime be it the saree fiasco by Sasha; be it the Indian party theme; be it the court charges by Rashika on Maan; Be it the goons at HP trying to kill Geet; be it the pregnancy truth by Geet to Maan; be it her decision leaving Delhi and be it her dilemma about the past being a burden on Maan. They have been through think and thin in this relationship and they have really succeeded in this. So, today when this happened (which was forceful due to GC's illness) we still see the reason behind it and also we see some logic in the story otherwise I would not have analyzing it today. Hence, I felt that Geet's self talk was really justified.

Ok. I would like to put this dialogue here from Monday's episode of House which actually I saw yesterday night and here Cuddy nicely talked about relationships about what you should do to maintain it. I loved this conversation between House and Cuddy. These two are 2 different characters just like Maan and Geet and both House and Cuddy have nothing in common between them which makes their relationship interesting. Like we have Maan and Geet as Maan rightly said that their life will be interesting because they both are so different and also because of Geet's back and forth attitude. Well here it is - read on :-

Dr. Cuddy: I'm not gonna dump you because we like different food or books or music. On the other hand, I might dump you if you don't talk to me when you have a problem with our relationship.

House: I know you believe that now, but the fact is...

Dr. Cuddy: Who cares about common? Common is boring. I like being with you. You make me better. Hopefully, I make you better. What we have is... uncommon. And I've never been happier.

Isn't this true??? Don't you feel like what Cuddy said really applies to both Maan and Geet??? Geet makes Maan better or Maan makes Geet better??? Do you have any answer??? I feel they make eachother better. Isn't it??? Now, about working on the relationship here I have one condition though. This will only work when there is love and that still exists between them and then only when you talk about the problem with your partner a relationship will work otherwise won't. So, here we need not worry about Maan and Geet as there is love between them and will be as they are soul partners. But what I loved here is both Maan and Geet always talk about their problems and then when GC will be back we can see their reunion with a bang. Hence, good move by the Nissar and Richa here for the future track. Also good to see that Geet is hell bent on searching for Maan and I know that she will find him because there will be help from Adi and Pinky in future and that is why the pregnancy truth was revealed today to them.

Now, let's come to NT. NT is a Suave Vamp. Did you notice how she looked down when Dadima was praising her of her intelligence that she opened her eyes and made Dadima see the truth??? Those eyes of NT simply said that she knows that she's soo wrong and what all she had done. That is the reason she couldn't look into Dadima's eyes and instead was looking down. Didn't I tell you she will accuse Geet of taking advantage of Maan and his property??? Well that is her first weapon and then when this will not work she will try to make discredit and malign Geet's behavior of carrying Maan's child. But still I don't think that she will reveal the truth to Dev about Geet's pregnancy because remember losing Dev is her biggest insecurity. Her entire heartbeat is with Dev and today I hope you all got the proof of her change in behavior when she hugged Dev just to show Meera how good she is. Simple.

Here Kasturi have another suggestion that NT should find out abt Geet's pregnancy prescription and in turn will try to brainwash Dadima about Geet being a girl of loose moral and trying to trap Maan. This also can happen but I still think NT will try to do something which will expel Maan out of Khurana Property and I think later on she may even implicate Maan in this which can lead to Maan and Geet walking out of Khurana Empire. This will lead NT being the controller of the business. Then Dadima will come to know the truth and the baby being the heiress will leave Maan and Geet the controller again of Khurana Empire.

On the other hand Dadima said that Geet had humiliated Maan and the entire Khurana Empire in front of the World and now I am telling you that it will be Geet who will bring out the difference between Maan and Dev in front of the entire world. That is how the loop will be closed. NT and Dev have to fall flat on their faces. Period. Just remember this is how Nissar works.

But don't think Dadima will be negative because right now she is more worried about Maan than anybody else. This is her love for Maan talking and that is why she is believing NT because remember NT is with her since a long time than Geet. How much does she know Geet and after what all she faced in the party how come we believe that Dadima will support Geet??? But you all don't worry as it will be Dadima along with Maan who will throw NT and Dev out of the Khurana Mansion when the truth will be out and proved. That day is near for sure. Because I don't think Dadima is sort of a person who will support the wrong doing just to save her family reputation??? I cannot believe that. Just don't forget that she is the person who had induced the right values in Maan and taught him to support the truth always. Then how come she herself will forget that just for the sake of family reputation??? No. I cannot take this. Richa and Nissar have to be right here and I believe that they will not spoil Dadima's basic characteristics. Remember she is Maan's Grandma and Teacher and Guide here. She had brought this Maan up and the one we all know.

Confused Selfish Soul:-

This is for Abhinav. Now Abhinav you really need to gear up your acting skills. I am telling you again that please do brush up your skills as this is the best opportunity for you in absence of GC to show that you really have that in you. This track is also completely based on you so you really need to do the best acting of your life. Today also I didn't really understand your expressions at all. Why they were so blunt??? When you saw NT and when NtT told you about the consequences of what could happen if you tell everybody the truth then where were your expressions??? But I must say that you really are confused soul as Dev. Period. And Karishma was too good today. She really was fantastic. I loved the NT- Dev and Meera trio scene. It was not the clash of titatns as NT overpowered both of them there but still the interactions were meaningful. I hope all will be happy now as I told you all that once NT will come back and show Dev Maan's probable wrath then anyway Dev will go into a hole. Remember if he would have got the courage then he would not have tell Geet to hide the fact from Maan even with knowing how Maan loves truth. So, definitely somewhere down the line he wishes that its better nobody knows the truth. But you know what because of Abhinav's acting I am not able o understand at all what Dev is feeling. Even when he was in repentant mode I never really realized whether he truly wants that or not. His acting really pathetic and I am feeling sorry for Nissar here and donno how he is managing with him in the first place. I can understand it's actually so tough for a director to work with such pathetic actors.

Ok. Why am I not feeling sorry for Meera here??? Simple. I still am wondering how come she even thought that Dev will stop her from leaving the mansion. I mean does she not know Dev??? If she really loves him then she should have known what the influence NT has on Dev. It's just not easy to break. As I always mentioned that Dev is an indecisive person and he doesn't have a mind of his own. He simply is a parasite and lives with everybody's help.

Now remember I said that Meera and Geet scene may happen as if Meera is supposed to be Geet's savior then its way better that Geet doesn't know Meera as Dev's friend or Meera will have to work pretty hard to gain confidence in Geet. Now since Meera and Geet have met again this was expected. Now, if Geet comes to know that Meera is Dev's friend then definitely the liason cannot exceed further as Geet will never ever trust anyone who is associcated with Dev so soon. So, in order to exceed this liason Nissar needs to show that Meera doesn't know Dev for Geet to trust her. Well This convo was good and let's see how it shapes up.

One thing I didn't like that when Geet said women are more emotional and yes we are emotional but I believe that even our heads rule our hearts. At least mine. My head always rules my heart and sometime may be heart does take over but its very rare.

Now, Jyo talks about the Mahabharat Metaphor. I still have to work on that and will let you know the theory. But I do have one doubt as if Meera is termed as Krishna then then how come she can be the friend of Duryodhan???

Before I sign off I just want to mention to Nissar that it's good to see that Sameera is still there on the show and can come in some time. I don't know how you, Richa and Swati have sketched her character but I have one question on how will you prove MSK's character here??? If Sameera is really his past then there are some questions on which I need the answer from you as well as I want you to think upon these grounds before you sketch their past:-

1. If Sameera was Maan's love interest in the past then how come Maan never realized that he was falling for Geet??? Why he couldn't understand that he already had experienced these feelings??? They seemed so foreign to him.

2. Maan is not weak at all as per his character goes. Then how come Maan started hating women just because one woman had ditched him???

3. What exactly she had done to her that Maan had to go into darkness and he forgot smiling and believing in woman???

4. You basically start hating a woman when your own Mom leaves you or abandons you and also when your GF or wife ditches you very badly. In that case, if his Mom abandoned him I can understand but if she is his love interest then how come he never understood the the feelings for Geet or started hating women???

5. Why did Maan always use to say that he never experienced love???

Overall a Wonderful Episode.

Over to you all to join the discussion. Feel free to shoot me:-

P.S. Here is the link for "Eagle Eye - Constructive Criticism" for 7th Oct. Pl. join in the discussion and post your views on today's Epi:-

http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=109723285713002&topic=1151&post=26887&ref=notif&notif_t=board_post_reply#post26887

Edited by doodleberry - 15 years ago

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Jaded

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Posted: 15 years ago

#425

hello people...whats up??🤗

todays epi....hmmm it wasnt bad at all....apart from Maan Geet scene...which was obvious but cleverly handled....my take in Points today...so off we go

a. Geet crying and reminscing a v gd change CVs we need to know more about the inner workings of Geets mind and ofcourse Maans...I m not upset at Geet at all for thinking that Maan believed NT and Dev...why shouldnt she believe this...the girl is so hesitant to trust and when she finally lets her guard down...she gets a blast from the past...which she is not able to recover from and dont have hopes have ever recovering fully.....coz lets face it...Trauma like that tends to take deep root in ur subconsciousness and resurfaces at the most inopportune moments.....or when u least expect it...so Geet being a lil skeptical and questioning everything is very logical...the big thing i would like to point out it here is look at her courage that she is willing to love and trust again in a man rather then vowing to never do so....if i was in her place i would prolly be on a hunt to murder Dev.

b. Maan contemplating why Geet did what she did...that was a perfect touch by the CVs...Maan's trust once given is hard to revoke...i absolutely loved it.....he clearly is a man of extremes...so is his Faith and love for Geet...very much in character....and it just gives my heart soo much relief that Maan was observant of his eyes...his behavior on the day of engagement could be easily explained....the guy was so elated by the reception of his new found love....after a long long time Maan let himself be happy...so is it not natural to be a little playful with others??...his employees....the people who are his constant companions for past however many years.......who are more aware of his mood swings then anybody else....and who are his only social circle.....and not only that they are also Geet's his beloveds friends as well...so its very logical and within from where i m looking at it.

c. NayanTara...WOW...i do not have words for this lady...her evilness is something out of the story books.....i loved KR's acting....the slight changes in posture with expressions is wonderful...the scene with Dadi where she is being Oh-So-Sympathetic.....the little slouching in her shoulders and then when Dadi moves forward NT reverts back to the arrogant swagger....wonderful...absolutely wonderful...i love this woman...NT is Gangsta 😉

The best part about NayanTara is she knows exactly what she is doing...i loved those subtle changes between her smirk and frown during her confrontation with her Leech of a husband....she left him...did her thing...came back.....no fear....shes like his puppeteer....it took her total of Five minutes to gain control over DevTard...she knows his weaknesses and she knows how to manipulate them.....how to use it to her own advantage...i wholly admire people who know what they want in life and who know what they are doing when they are doing it......NT is a champion at her mind games....and i would love to see her play them victimize people...and in the process become a victim herself....coz such is the nature of the game...the paranoia is inevitable...CVs i would love to see NT going psycho because of her own nature....it would be poetic justice.😈

d. Dev....soo the Leech was leaning one way so Meera Bai cn support him...emotionally and eleviate some of his loneliness and guilt...now NT is back....so he is gonna regress back to his old collared doggie self.....but his Rudimentary protestations were funny to watch....i mean there was no conviction in his dialogue...i m not sure weather it was AS's bad acting or it was meant to be....but i m always gonna relay on surroundingthings to decipher the meanings behind DevTard scenes...since AS's acting is pathetic.

e. Meera....hmmm dil ke armaan ansoon mein beh gaye??.....i wonder what she was thinking??......the girl seems smart, logical and a pretty decent......so what i dont understand it is...how come she was expecting Dev to leave NT and follow her???........LOVE...makes u more stupid beyond ur expectations....loved PC's acting during DevTard scene...her infinitesmal hope when she looks at Dev before walking out, spoke volumes.....i think she never loved Dev...she is in love with Dev the man that her imagination has created....she has created an idealistic persona of him in her head and has fallen in love with it...and everytime she sees him...she wants to see the man of her imagination which makes her deny the reality of Devs character....poor thing....i still think that she will continue to fall for Devs antics.....just because not only Dev's luring her but her own fantasy is going to be her downfall.

Lastly, loved the scene between Geet and Meera....may be they should be paired off😆...it was a nice scene to see two women in similar conditions yet so far apart....but essentially suffering from the same blues sharing their experiences with each other...its a very womanly thing to do...woman like to share experiences and thats how we gain insight for future....i say its a survival instinct of sorts....but thats another tangent...Geet and Meera Sharing their experiences was a refreshing change.....made me gain a little sympathy for Meera...after all she was a human being as well...riddled with human flaws so shouldnt be too hard on her follies...after alll she is in LOVE.

alright that was loooooooong....so yea...enjoy

~Sin~

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Rhea

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Posted: 15 years ago

#426

"Love anything and your heart will be wrung and possibly broken. If you want to make sure of keeping it intact you must give it to no one, not even an animal. Wrap it carefully round with hobbies and little luxuries; avoid all entanglements. Lock it up safe in the casket or coffin of your selfishness. But in that casket, safe, dark, motionless, airless, it will change. It will not be broken; it will become unbreakable, impenetrable, irredeemable. To love is to be vulnerable."
- C.S. lewis

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MarshP

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Posted: 15 years ago

#427

Me love it Rhea!!

"To love is to be vulnerable." 😳

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luvmaneet

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Dazzler

Posted: 15 years ago

#428

@Rhea 🤗🤗🤗🤗dil khush kar diya
Thankoooo so much🤗,you wont believe this one is my favorite😛

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Jaded

@Jaded

Dazzler

Posted: 15 years ago

#429

OMG OMG OMG......MAAN's EYEsssssss.....😍😍😍

Edited by sinistera - 15 years ago

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sumz3

@sumz3

Voyager

Posted: 15 years ago

#430

@ Doodle ... it's like you capture everything I think and MORE! brilliant analysis. :) So since you're off to India ... will Doodle be doodling on the Den??? Please say yes?