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Posted: 10 years ago



kushis mother name is sujatha not garima...i know in a flow will write garima...😃


Oh dear! thanks for the reminder.

I nearly typed Shashi for Navin and caught myself before I did!!😳

I know all that outpouring of emotion, mixing up names through sheer habit!!!😆 😃😃


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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: bkamber

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Each character has to deal with their own introspect and plight. At the end of the day it is how we judge ourselves that makes or breaks us. The delusional will rarely change and they trudge along from one victim to another.


👏 Well said Kerrie.

I might be all over the place since my thoughts are all over and I am sounding like a broken record.
I am going to be frank and perhaps rather harsh...sorry Jenny for giving one of your characters a nickname of my own.
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Arnav - A good decent man whose one bad decision destroyed many years of his life because of a selfish delusional woman. She has succesfully played him right thru her suicide and has manged to give rise to a rift in a new beginning in his life.
His words to Khushi..."Everything's going to be okay, baby, believe me... I'll take care of everything, you don't have to worry about anything". Really ...when... and why should Khushi have faith in this stand now?? Does he understand the depth of the damage done??
"She needs time..."I'll wait...". Right Arnav...and that you will because... now when you should be in her face you are holding back. Do find yourself first before going after her across three continents.

Interesting angle Kerrie. Even I wonder that if Aastha and Arnav had headed to Khushi's house immediately right from the hospital and Arnav had told the entire truth to Khushi's parents and if Aastha herself had told Khushi that she was not in anyway responsible to what Loony did, would Khushi's decision have been different????

Khushi - Her response to Arnav says it all - "Don't you realize, Arnav..This changes everything". The damage is too stiff and she has judged herself for compromising her beliefs and principles. She sees herself for being the catalyst leading to this major life altering event. I applaud her for paying heed to the voice of self preservation and the instinct to preserve her sanity. She has to look out for herself because no one else is!!

Astha - Whatever she stands for or believes in, today at the appropriate time she spoke up about Aarav's truth on behalf of her son and actually for Khushi as well to "protect" them. IMO she did great, even if Arnav was annoyed and didn't appreciate it, because quite frankly I don't know when... if ever... he would have done it!! Well done Jenny...loved the way this conversaton came about.

And I feel somewhere Aastha is feeling guilty too that all these years she could not see her son suffering and she had overlooked her son's sham of a marriage and now she realises more than ever that her son is indeed a gem of a person.


Arnav's Aarav "torch" has been "on" too long and needs to be put out. No one can erase or challenge the love he feels for his son and disclosing the truth can only bring about healing and sealing the wounds and this innocent child has been pawn enough for both Loony and Arnav!!

I agree with you totally on this. Aarav's paternity reality should be disclosed to all the three families. More than anyone Lavanya has used her son to the maximum extent and someone has to put an end to it.


Sashi - Seems like a rational man who did all he could for his two daughters well into their adulthood. Most likely he indulged them both and never said no specially to the the younger one. She grew up getting what she wanted and when daddy moved on with his life she found Arnav to latch onto and trapped him to "own" him. Knowing what he now knows about Aarav should aid him in helping his daughter. One thing for sure...the Kashyaps will stand together for themselves, irrespective of hurt, lies and deceit to others!!

LoonyLa - "I want to get better, Daddy. I want to get over him...". Awww...How appropriate now that she needs all the sympathies after playing her wicked vindictive card so well and surviving. Wonder what she is going to say when Daddy brings up Aarav's truth...again... if he does. Does she...will she ever really "pay" for her deceit. I think not.

If you see her dialogues, even now she is portraying herself as the victim here. She is putting up a show even now saying she wants to forget him and move on since he can never become hers. But I dont see any guilt in her talks yet. Enough of playing the victim card Lavanya, time to face some harsh realities.

I am really hoping Khushi does not meet with Loony. Why should she??

I strongly feel Khushi will meet Loony La. Lets wait and see what Jen has planned.

I was kidding myself when I said I will keep it short...delusional me!!

Off to read other comments soon!!



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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: kclovearshi


What if she was telling the truth?

When she seduced him her intention was to have him for one night as she clearly knew he did not return her feelings. Certainly not to get pregnant and trap him into marriage (if I remember correctly).
May be she had doubts about who the father would be during her wedding but she did not try to confirm them as her wish to have him forever was coming true, you know like the kannada proverb that roughly translates to "the patient wants milk & rice and the Doctor recommends milk & rice" :)

I'm going to be a devil's advocate here and drop this bomb :)

May be Arnav made a hasty decision to marry her, may be he could have asked for a paternity test before the wedding itself because he was going to spend rest of his life with her and he needed to make absolutely sure before going headlong with it!

People obessed with love do lot of worse things; there was one woman here in US who killed her ex-boyfreind very brutally, at least La is much better than that..

The suicide attempt would have meant nothing to Khushi or would not have affected her if Shshi was able to reach Arnav right away and/or Manya did not act so recklessly; she should have gone after Arnav and not Khushi; or if they knew the whole deal, they may not have accused any body for that matter as the culprit is their own loved one..

My 2 cents, no offence to any one..



Even I feel she did not know who the dad is till Aarav was born. she immediately knew he isn't Arnav's child seeing his eyes...because she gave some medical reasons which I understood as fake periods she got before she had sex with Arnav but she was already pregnant..
Arnav is too good person to ask for paternity test..he would have never asked it before marriage as he knew he did sleep with her without protection.
But she seducing Arnav when he was clearly drunk when few days back she slept with someone, doesn't go well with my traditional mindset..
I totally agree with Kavi's proverb..she grabbed the opportunity with both hands..

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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: kclovearshi


What if she was telling the truth?

When she seduced him her intention was to have him for one night as she clearly knew he did not return her feelings. Certainly not to get pregnant and trap him into marriage (if I remember correctly).
May be she had doubts about who the father would be during her wedding but she did not try to confirm them as her wish to have him forever was coming true, you know like the kannada proverb that roughly translates to "the patient wants milk & rice and the Doctor recommends milk & rice" :)

I'm going to be a devil's advocate here and drop this bomb :)

May be Arnav made a hasty decision to marry her, may be he could have asked for a paternity test before the wedding itself because he was going to spend rest of his life with her and he needed to make absolutely sure before going headlong with it!

People obessed with love do lot of worse things; there was one woman here in US who killed her ex-boyfreind very brutally, at least La is much better than that..

The suicide attempt would have meant nothing to Khushi or would not have affected her if Shshi was able to reach Arnav right away and/or Manya did not act so recklessly; she should have gone after Arnav and not Khushi; or if they knew the whole deal, they may not have accused any body for that matter as the culprit is their own loved one..

My 2 cents, no offence to any one..


You are right Kavi, Lavanya did not seduce him in the intention of getting pregnant. Its just that fate was on her side and she was already pregnant by then. So when she missed her periods the coming month, she assumed it to be Arnav's.

I had posted a excerpt from one of the chapters in my last chapter comments in which it clearly shows that La knew that Arnav was not the father before marriage.

Lets think it in scientific terms, by the time La had sex with Arnav, she was already one month pregnant and by the time she realised that she missed her periods and that she is pregnant she must have been two months pregnant atleast. And later after a month they got married. That means she had already completed three months of her pregnancy by the day she got married.

As soon as she found out she was pregnant she must have visited a doctor who would have done an early ultrasound to determine the age of the fetus and her EDD. In that she must have clearly known that she is one month ahead in her pregnancy than she thought. Which implies that she knew that Arnav was not the father.

Now when she came to know of this, was it one week before the wedding or the day before the wedding, these details only La or Jen can tell us.

Arnav trusted Lavanya when she said that she is pregnant with his child as she was his childhood friend and he always liked her as a friend. He never knew of her manipulative side then.
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: sman


Shailaja, in every ultrasound test done in pregnancy, the technology is such that it gives the age of the fetus and the expected delivery date etc accurately. So I am hundred percent sure that she knew Arnav was not the father much before Aarav was born. Now how she hid the ultrasound reports from Arnav etc I am not sure of it.

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Posted: 10 years ago

You are right Kavi, Lavanya did not seduce him in the intention of getting pregnant. Its just that fate was on her side and she was already pregnant by then. So when she missed her periods the coming month, she assumed it to be Arnav's.

I had posted a excerpt from one of the chapters in my last chapter comments in which it clearly shows that La knew that Arnav was not the father before marriage.

Lets think it in scientific terms, by the time La had sex with Arnav, she was already one month pregnant and by the time she realised that she missed her periods and that she is pregnant she must have been two months pregnant atleast. And later after a month they got married. That means she had already completed three months of her pregnancy by the day she got married.

As soon as she found out she was pregnant she must have visited a doctor who would have done an early ultrasound to determine the age of the fetus and her EDD. In that she must have clearly known that she is one month ahead in her pregnancy than she thought. Which implies that she knew that Arnav was not the father.

Now when she came to know of this, was it one week before the wedding or the day before the wedding, these details only La or Jen can tell us.

Arnav trusted Lavanya when she said that she is pregnant with his child as she was his childhood friend and he always liked her as a friend. He never knew of her manipulative side then.


That is a brilliant analysis Kavi..I didnt know they can find out about pregnancy in such detail..only Lavanya can spill beans on this when her dad and sister ask her..
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Posted: 10 years ago
Kavi, since you asked me how I assumed that Lavanya knew about the paternity before marriage, the below sentences from chapter 14 gave me the doubt.

Looking at his somber, handsome profile, Lavanya felt a fresh wave of nausea, which she couldn't quite decide was due to her pregancy or her guilty secret, that gnawed away at her heart, sapping it of every joy, she had ever known.

"No, I'm worrying too much", she had told herself, "Of course, it is Arnav's. Arnav and mine".

And the below sentences from chapter 31 shows that La was already pregnant when she slept with Arnav.

Lavanya bit her lip and averted her gaze. The realization that she was fighting a losing battle was just beginning to dawn upon her. She had done nothing to earn his trust and perhaps it was foolish to expect him to believe...


"I had my period just a week before the graduation night", Lavanya tried again, "I had no way of knowing that it was a false period and that I was...was already pregnant. I hadn't lied when I said I was on the pill that night".

Edited by canapoem - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: canapoem

Kavi, since you asked me how I assumed that Lavanya knew about the paternity before marriage, the below sentences from chapter 14 gave me the doubt.

Looking at his somber, handsome profile, Lavanya felt a fresh wave of nausea, which she couldn't quite decide was due to her pregancy or her guilty secret, that gnawed away at her heart, sapping it of every joy, she had ever known.

"No, I'm worrying too much", she had told herself, "Of course, it is Arnav's. Arnav and mine".

And the below sentences from chapter 31 shows that La was already pregnant when she slept with Arnav.

Lavanya bit her lip and averted her gaze. The realization that she was fighting a losing battle was just beginning to dawn upon her. She had done nothing to earn his trust and perhaps it was foolish to expect him to believe...


"I had my period just a week before the graduation night", Lavanya tried again, "I had no way of knowing that it was a false period and that I was...was already pregnant. I hadn't lied when I said I was on the pill that night".


Ok Sherlock :) you saved my time

I'm not disputing that she was already pregnant when she slept with Arnav. But when she found out she was pregnant she might have genuinely believed that it was Arnav's. Now I don't remember if Jenny told us when exactly Lavanya knew, my guess is that she may have found out during that one month gap. She kept quiet as her dreams were coming true but her consciousness kept gnawing at her. If she was overtly malicious, then she wouldn't feel so much guilt which manifested into her insecurities, finally ruining the marriage!

So she might be saying the truth in the above paragraph that you quoted but Arnav wasn't ready to listen to her as he felt betrayed which is also natural


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Posted: 10 years ago
Bravo Jenny and well done!!
You have captured the chaotic churning in each character's mind be it good or bad or ugly. Each one is making their voice heard. Some walls brought down and new ones being put up.

Astha and Sashi talked, accused/defended their children, a fact exposed - right or wrong?? I am going to side with right, because both the "children" need to be brought out of the loop they are stuck in and there needs to be intervention and closure.

Arnav's words to Khushi are no longer effective for her because she can only depend on herself for her protection.
Frankly, Khushi is the "outsider" in the Raizada/Kashyap mess.

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Posted: 10 years ago

Jenny, Thanks for the PM.

Another emotional chapter. Beautifully written and touchy.
Sad to see Khushi giving up and let Lavanya and Manya win.
I feel bad for Arnav. I feel this is the time for Khushi to be with him and provide the mental support. But I know she feels guilty of ruining La's last hope of reconciliation though she knows Arnav will never get back with La if Khushi exist or not in his life.
I'm happy Astha broke the truth to La's dad. I feel the family should know the truth and Khushi's parents too. Though Arnav doesn't like it until they knew this they will never forgive Arnav for La's suicide attempt.
Waiting to see what action Arnav is going to make when he realizes Khushi drift away from him.
Please update soon.
All the best

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