ArHi SS: Quiet places (Read warning) [Completed] - Page 15

Originally posted by: manreet_gill

To begin with I understand your perspective, I do. Women are unfortunately seen as inferior species, and I am incredibly lucky that I am seen as an equal amongst the men in my home and professional life. [rightly or wrongly this clouds my judgement from time to time however and this is a flaw deeply rooted in the belief that as a woman I am no weaker for not possessing bollocks] Therefore it is with regret that i say that I could never truly understand the Khushi in the show. Unfortunately I think, like many women she believed that change will one day emerge, and not all are fortunate to see that hope come to fruition. I can only sincerely hope that in the future womens intellect and emotional beliefs are not questioned with undue disdain.

As for the Khushi of the story: she has been entrusted with a power which has not previously been bestowed upon upon her, but it is only available in the privacy of their bedroom. In which instance I can question, how much control does she truly have? As for morally liking the act. This is why I said trust between the couples is important as it benchmarks the relationships strength. What I understand that Khushi is questioning is beyond the right to enjoy the act, but also questioning if she enjoys this secret power she holds. If she enjoys playing a dominant role in the bedroom, great. If she cannot understand the pain in the pleasure. Ask Arnav about why he enjoys it. Question something until you learn the answers. The bedroom is their safe place for this other world. Surely trust should encompass the ability to question and understand? I'm sorry if I'm not making much sense here, but the crux of my understanding is that without trust you will struggle to get far as it is the root of solving other underlying issues. I hope that this makes sense!! :)

I think I wrote it in one of the earlier comments
What I understand that Khushi is questioning is beyond the right to enjoy the act, but also questioning if she enjoys this secret power she holds. If she enjoys playing a dominant role in the bedroom, great. If she cannot understand the pain in the pleasure. Ask Arnav about why he enjoys it. Question something until you learn the answers.

If I explain to you an extremely deviant act and why I enjoy it and suppose, you as my partner do understand in and out of it. But will you accept it? What good does learning answer mean if you cannot bring yourself to accept it? Note that acceptance is NOT tolerance. Acceptance when when there is absolutely no doubt or prejudice in your mind. Tolerance is when your prejudice or doubt is never in open.

Understanding doesn't mean acceptance. Understanding doesn't mean I have to fight with my moral code the moment I say "Yes, I do understand why you like this." I understand why people do what they do. That doesn't mean I accept it. That's the primary difference here.

I understand exactly why a person seeks pain in pleasure. But do I accept it? That's my prerogative. Anyone's sentimentality is immaterial here.

Surely trust should encompass the ability to question and understand?

Trust goes only so far. I trust you implicitly. But when I formulate my opinion, I take your input under advisement and research other facts available to me. Isn't that the way trust actually works? Else it will be dictatorial relationship.

What is confusing Khushi more?

Originally posted by: amus5

well this is my opinion...

I'm reminded of my first few days of learning how to balance on a bicycle - a childhood act where the child is excited to experience and adventure into the realms of the unknown with the hand of the guardian guiding you along the path...the child begins with a confidence that it knows what its doing and quite nonchalent about the hand of the guardian - but when the child is concentrating on trying to get a balance and suddenly realises the absence of the hand of the guardian the child is filled with jitters and falls...now when the child once agains gets up with the help of the guardian it is not as confident as when it all started but learns to appreciate the hand of the guardian - So is it the fault of the guardian to have completely let go of the child in the first place..or is it the fault of the child to first feel overconfident and then fall back all too jittery..So should the guardian feel hurt or guilty when the child has suddenly lost confidence...doesnt he guide the child back onto the path...

here Khushi is a child venturing into the realms of the unknown ... she is a clay mould which can be moulded to his desire and to achieve it he should guide her ...

a beautiful update...pls continue soon 😃

Question: Who is Khushi's guardian? A child has a guardian because they aren't capable of formulating an opinion and they have less access to the world. Khushi is a fully functional adult knows stuff Loooads of stuff. She even made the first move after Arnav's confession !! 😃 😆

And why should she be molded to what Arnav wants? She is her own independent person. If he has desires then he will tell her. If she wants to only then she will consent to it. Else he will shut up about it for the rest of his life. 😆

Welcome to this thread where everyone answers / likes everyone's comment. 😊

Originally posted by: RockBarbie

I think I wrote it in one of the earlier comments
What I understand that Khushi is questioning is beyond the right to enjoy the act, but also questioning if she enjoys this secret power she holds. If she enjoys playing a dominant role in the bedroom, great. If she cannot understand the pain in the pleasure. Ask Arnav about why he enjoys it. Question something until you learn the answers.

If I explain to you an extremely deviant act and why I enjoy it and suppose, you as my partner do understand in and out of it. But will you accept it? What good does learning answer mean if you cannot bring yourself to accept it? Note that acceptance is NOT tolerance. Acceptance when when there is absolutely no doubt or prejudice in your mind. Tolerance is when your prejudice or doubt is never in open.

Understanding doesn't mean acceptance. Understanding doesn't mean I have to fight with my moral code the moment I say "Yes, I do understand why you like this." I understand why people do what they do. That doesn't mean I accept it. That's the primary difference here.

I understand exactly why a person seeks pain in pleasure. But do I accept it? That's my prerogative. Anyone's sentimentality is immaterial here.

Surely trust should encompass the ability to question and understand?

Trust goes only so far. I trust you implicitly. But when I formulate my opinion, I take your input under advisement and research other facts available to me. Isn't that the way trust actually works? Else it will be dictatorial relationship.

Originally posted by: manreet_gill

I understand your perspective I truly do. And yes, I suppose trust only goes so far. And yes education vs. acceptance are two completely different things. And the decision from one belief over another comes from self assurity; knowing what is a comfort zone, what you are willing to explore and eventually accept or reject. My own black and white outlook is clouding my ability to see the grey areas, so thank you for making me consider Khushi.

Khushi needs the chance to explore without being judged so that she can undestand and accept or reject this power. Going back to my first comment. Not discussing sex freely in many ways creates a grey area of what is right or wrong, which is what fascinates me about this story. If we weren't so prudish at times, how different would we or could we be about accepting something different to the norm? :)

Yes! Its about acceptance :-) Everything else will derive from it - morality, trust etc etc etc.

Its way past my bed time so adios! (I sleep at 9:30 like a middle school-er!)

Originally posted by: RockBarbie

Yes! Its about acceptance :-) Everything else will derive from it - morality, trust etc etc etc.

Its way past my bed time so adios! (I sleep at 9:30 like a middle school-er!)

Originally posted by: RockBarbie

Question: Who is Khushi's guardian? A child has a guardian because they aren't capable of formulating an opinion and they have less access to the world. Khushi is a fully functional adult knows stuff Loooads of stuff. She even made the first move after Arnav's confession !! 😃 😆

And why should she be molded to what Arnav wants? She is her own independent person. If he has desires then he will tell her. If she wants to only then she will consent to it. Else he will shut up about it for the rest of his life. 😆

Welcome to this thread where everyone answers / likes everyone's comment. 😊

Originally posted by: amus5

well she is an adult and yes, she made the first move which is very similar to a child's confidence when sitting on the bicycle for the first time...Arnav, to her, has been the dominant one and so to her he is the guiding hand ...she is still venturing and trying to grapple with the reversal of roles between the dominant and the pliant - to a person who is so used to being the subject is all of a sudden thrown into a domineering position is not easy to adjust...here the reference is when the hand of the guardian is found missing on the bicycle -that is when she questions whether what she is doing is right or wrong as it is a new sphere where every step she takes as the dominant - i recall in the previous chappys she had her own dilemma as to discuss this with her sis /sil and decided against it - and so seeking answers from your other half is the only option she has and here it is upto Arnav who has to guide her through her own insecurities

Khushi like vanilla ice cream. So does everyone else. She comes from a world where any other type of ice cream doesn't exist except for vanilla. One day Arnav tells her that he likes mango ice cream. She is surprised but tries it anyway. She likes mango flavor and eats it several times. She however cannot ask anyone about it because mango is practically unheard of. Also she finds out society frowns upon some people who likes mango flavor. So she wonders about it. Is eating and liking mango flavor a bad thing to do? Is it morally wrong?

Its she who is eating. Its she who is liking the flavor. And she is finding that liking wrong.

Arnav will give her hundred reasons why mango is awesome-est flavor in the universe. Will it change her perspective? Maybe. Maybe not.

Should he try to convince her why mango flavor is awesome?
He can try. But he is a nice guy who knows that Khushi is a kind of person who is dumb enough to sacrifice her own needs and give into his - meaning tell her mango is awesome and she can try several variants of it because Arnav vouches for it. Isn't that a way to influence her to eat mango ice cream which over time she would probably come to hate? Maybe if he had let her think and decide on her own she could have decided if she wants to eat mango or vanilla. Or a mix of both.

Now tell me, should Arnav convince her? Or should she decide on her own? Or should she stick to what she believes is the right thing to do? 😊

Everyone said Arnav Khushi are opposites.It is true where their beliefs are concerned.These two will hv to fine tune themselves.They both want to pleasure each other...sometimes we take different roads that lead to the same destination but it is not only the thrill of the arrival but the pleasure of the journey that matters.Here's wishing both of them many fun trips and shattering arrivals.