MB FF : On the Quest || Pg. 144 - Ch.50 & Note || - Page 87

Originally posted by: Angela_Grokes

See dear, what you said about being chosen as the 'Best Leader' and the consequences - that was the way they represented your action. You opened your hair. There was nothing wrong in that. But! They way they (whoever they were) presented your action, it was looked as a wrong action. Just like some people say that Duryodhan was wrong to use the rules. But he was not! Right. He broke no rule but he used the rules in a way which they benefitted him. Mso his means were not wrong. Hence blaming the means makes no sense. So even if people see means first rather than the complete action in this case, it makes no sense entirely. And in my FF too you should better look at the end because everyone knows what will happen but the ending of this track is still under the sheets of fog. Then I never said Duryodhan discriminated on the basis of Cates for creed. In fact I consider him better than Pandavs in this case. As of you said that promoting a wrong message in the society doesn't make you unjust, why doesn't it! It does make you unjust. Because you support the wrong with will lead to injustice. Right or not? All of them who were present in Dyut Sabha were unjust. Why? Because they never spoke against never spoke against the injustice Draupadi had to go through. So they were unjust because they never spoke out in favour justice and promoted a wrong message. And Dharma can never be bound to some text or Many Samhita. Because Krishna himself said that Dharma changes with time a d is different in every situation. So how can you decide that someone was just or unjust on the basis that he followed Manu Samhita's laws. Though I agree here that Dhritrashtra was unjust. Like I said a good administrator can be unjust. Dhritrashtra was unjust when he put his family ahead his subjects but he was a good administrator. Punishment and revenge are to faces of the same coin. Some may call punishment revenge but it cannot be called wrong. In EHT too they call punishment revenge. They showed revenge as a form of punishment. Just like I am presenting in my FF. And I do completely agree that Pandavs were no followers of Dharma, wholly. Because whatever great deeds Yudhishtir did in his life, he will always be called faulty for his silence in Dyut Sabha and his wrong decisions he made in Dyut Sabha will always be criticised and the same rests for the other four.

Originally posted by: Yagyaseni

I never said I was right in the act condemned, any act for personal gain is a wrong act, states the Geeta! And this statement of Gita can never be questioned, as where there was selfishness, there is bound to be a conflict! I knew people were taxed but till they knew opening you hair was allowed in some situations, they wouldn't do that!! You may have intention which are good, but the world sees what it wants!! Means mean everything, Angela!! This is state with a personal experience! I have seen the fall of a zamindari family because it adopted a wrong means to give a right message!! Why spreading a wrong message doesn't make you unjust? It never can, because wrong message, can cause chaos but not injustice, Yudhishtir gambled, if anyone takes it an inspiration, then it would be chaotic situation which may result in justice or injustice!! Certain times only chaotic situation deliver justice, like Kurukshetra!! Dharm varies for situation but not for professions! A king all over the world has the same duties, irrespective of whatever situation he is put it!! And this statement is again supported by the Gita and Srimad Bhagvatam! I can provide you with those shlokas if you want!! But the typing is gonna take away a lot of my time!!Punishment and revenge are not the same! They can never be!! Why will a Court take revenge froma murderer? No will ever want to support Yudhishtir for what he did in Dyut Sabha! When I myself don't support Arjun, what will I support Yudhi? For me believing that a good administrator can be unjust, can you provide me some proof? That is a story character designed to symbolize the outcome of being torn between dharma and adharma, while not taking a decision. Dhritarashtra is also portrayed as a hypocrite who says that he wants his nephews to win, but at heart, wants his children to win.

Okay. To start with, like I mentioned earlier - Means don't matter (well to me at least). If the world thinks the means matter more than the result then tell me why do you pluck flowers. By coming that you take a life away and God or any religion doesn't permit you to do that. But you know that, the flower with be used in the rituals and you will offer that flower to God which is not wrong. If means matter then why does one practice farming because you use plants to cook food but after growing the crops for months you kill them. You take away their life. But at the end that gives you life. If means don't matter why does one worship God? Why does one eat fish? Why does one each non-veg? Why does one hunt animals? Why does one wear fur-coats? I can set you ample of example that results are what that matter but again you can cut my words with other examples. Now as of that kings duties are the same, okay if Gita supports that. But still that cannot be guided by a book of set of rules, I feel at least. Now you said that a good administrator can never be unjust. Let me quote my words from the last reply again. ". As of you said that promoting a wrong message in the society doesn't make you unjust, why doesn't it! It does make you unjust. Because you support the wrong with will lead to injustice. Right or not? All of them who were present in Dyut Sabha were unjust. Why? Because they never spoke against never spoke against the injustice Draupadi had to go through. So they were unjust because they never spoke out in favour justice and promoted a wrong message. " and also "Though I agree here that Dhritrashtra was unjust. Like I said a good administrator can be unjust. Dhritrashtra was unjust when he put his family ahead his subjects but he was a good administrator.". And sorry but I cannot give any proof from Gita, Ramayan or Mahabharat. I can give some proof from the Bible but have decided not to bring it in here, so extremely sorry. I just gave the example from Mahabharat, of Bhishma and Dhritrashtra. This is something I have leart through experience and maybe that does not sound contenting for you, Now you said that punishment and revenge can never be the same. Why cannot they? I have said that in some cases punishment and revenge can be the same. I cannot provide you another example other than of the story of EHT and of the condition when someone hits another. Like when I hit my enemy he wants to punish me and with most probably want to retaliate (take revenge in the exactly same manner). Each character in MB is multi-layered and here we were talking about Dhritrashtra as an administrator then why talk about some other aspect of his life.

Awesome! Heart touching update 👏 I loved Panchi's emotions 😊 they are so well portrayed 👍🏼
So now Dushi is under Panchi's control right? 😃 what will happen next? waiting!
I personally researched a lot on dice hall, & still researching on it. & don't know why, I always have a soft corner for Yudhi even in this dice hall, I feel that he suffered a lot which everybody overlooks I liked you for letting a teardrop fall from his eyes 😊😭

Wow! Angieee!

Also, Yagya and Angela, guys what is all this debate about? God, well I'll read it when I have time and net, though!😆

Okay di no res today .

Originally posted by: Urmila11

Awesome! Heart touching update 👏 I loved Panchi's emotions 😊 they are so well portrayed 👍🏼
So now Dushi is under Panchi's control right? 😃 what will happen next? waiting!
I personally researched a lot on dice hall, & still researching on it. & don't know why, I always have a soft corner for Yudhi even in this dice hall, I feel that he suffered a lot which everybody overlooks I liked you for letting a teardrop fall from his eyes 😊😭

Thanks a lot.😊 Well dear I felt that Yudhishtir needed to realise his mistake and hence did that.

Originally posted by: ...Hemangi

Wow Angie ⭐️

So Dury staked Dushy w/o even taking his consent...and the part were yudhi choked when he was having convo with panchi regarding staking a person in the game was well written.

Loved the part where Dhrit easily took his part in his sister's game & he bet himself in her place.😊

And I loved Bhanu here...she gave a good tongue lashing to Dury 😡 for treating her as an object & staking her w/o even taking her consent.

Even I m also thinking how's Panchi is winning every stake

Continue soon...will Dury also loose himself in the stake

Thanks.😃 As I told earlier You will come to know that quite soon.😉

Originally posted by: 8520NK

Wow! Angieee!

Awesome updates! So, now I am sorry I couldn't comment earlier but mobile data is driving me crazy!

Okay, so for Part - 5

That was amazing Angela! Thrilling!

Now, seriously! I love the way Panchi is taking her revenge!

Well, people say that it is better to forget than take revenge but these people deserve it after what they've done to her!

And the climax is brilliant, it is turning out to be amazing with every passing update!

And Part - 6

Goddd!!👏👏

That Duryodhan and Shakuni are tasting their own medicine!

Lovely! They deserved it completely!

And for once I loved the way Bhanumati took her stand here, unlike she had in the epic where she was blinded by 'love' for her husband!

And Yudishtir now understood, what a person feels when he is staked!

Each one is getting to taste this cup of medicine! Everyone deserved it completely. I know that they regretted this dhyut Sabha but no one felt the humiliation Draupadi did and now Draupadi is staking them and making them understand, she is taking her revenge thoughtfully!

Eagerly waiting for the final one!😳

BTW is absolutely loved drishtadyumna! He is an awesome brother, in the epic as well as here!

Okay, now I have posted another chapter here!🤣

Wow. I love your detailed replies.😆 Now I am so so happy to know that you are liking it. Hoping that you'll enjoy the upcoming chapters as well.😉