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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: AnuMP

Someone post that bit from KMG where Krishna just lets it all out against Karna.


Am not arguing against Karna or Krishna here, am.just saying that when someone speaks like that to a man who is seconds away from being killed, that's I s more likely to be genuine sentiment. Basic pyschology, that's all.



As Sabhayata said, Krishna was not praising Karna.. probably just describing his character just like he described his looks earlier.. just because he hates Karna doesnt mean he can change facts.. though I wont be surprised if he does 😆



I guess we can say Krishna was not serious when he is appreciating his friends but cant say the same when it is about an enemy... and u should also remember Krishna was the one to request Karna to fight for Pandavas atleast in those days that he will not be in the playing 11 😆 ... so much desperate... 😆
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: amritat


Seriously...when did this post of mine indicate that? 😭
Wat I meant is...Karna already had a bitter experience at Rangbhoomi...
He was also quite learned about scriptures...so y would he participate n invite trouble for himself?
I think he went only to support his friend Duryodhan...bcoz I seriously cannot believe that a great warrior like him could miss the target as in Southern versions...




Amrita... Seriously...when did this post of mine indicate that? 😭


😆 Child I was just digging out some historic posts made by local scholars on status of Sutas..

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Posted: 10 years ago
Diala
My initial response was to Sabhayata saying Krishna appreciated Karna. I took it to mean as he admired or respected him. After reading what he said to him at the end, I don't think he did.

That doesn't mean Krishna dismissed Karna's capabilities as a warrior. Which is why he went to weaken him emotionally before the war.

Krishna dId not underestimate Karna. He didn't like him much, from what I can see from the last speech.
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Posted: 10 years ago
Anu.. i responded to ur post that said Krishna's appreciation was not genuine.. what I said is he did not appreciate at all he was just describing.. Sabhayata probably used the wrong word.. appreciation can be fake not facts..
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: ...Diala...




<font color="#006600" face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">Amrita... Seriously...when did this post of mine indicate that? 😭


😆 Child I was just digging out some historic posts made by local scholars on status of Sutas..</font>



Both local n global.scholars are confused about the true status of Sutas...
And they are confusing me too with their posts... 😆
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: Brahmaputra

It is also very strange that a book having around 9000 verse only grows almost ten times & finally reaches around 12 times of the original. Tell me how it was possible for Pandu to die 6 months after the birth of NS in northern recension & 12 years 6 months after the birth of NS in Southern recension?



Jamy, basically nobody can deny the fact that the epic has very much been edited and maybe the story we have today is not close to what actually it was. But point is, when debates are focused on today's world, I just feel we should keep the story as a base.. What we know MB today includes everything, no? For example today I start a story.
You make Karna do something great.
I make Karna do something completely opposite.
Amrita makes Drau do something and makes her 30 year old.
Some X, Y and Z do not like it and put in something where Drau is 10 and it's impossible.
It's like Spin the Yarn. But ultimately, the story built up includes your, mine and Amrita's story. Now without we admitting, can any Tom/Dick or Harry make out which is added later which one is true? I can calm what I dislike an interpolation, you can say just the opposite. This way we are not learning anything but wasting our time assuming stuff.
I just think it is better to take the story as it is and give our views. We should not argue about if Karna is 40 or 14 or if Draupadi was disrobed or covered with cloth. The story is there and we should analyse it. I can't say you all sto discussing. But it's just silly how you all keep on saying this is interpolation, Drau was this... You can never be sure. What you can say is what you think.
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Posted: 10 years ago
By the way Diala...ur status is mindblowing...🤣
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Posted: 10 years ago
that was Aham FCs name 😳😆.. will continue on MMZ forum 😉
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: ...Diala...

<font color="#006600" face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">that was Aham FCs name😳😆.. will continue on MMZ forum😉
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Oh yes...that man... 😳...When will he enter? 😭
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: Brishti_Sarkar



Jamy, basically nobody can deny the fact that the epic has very much been edited and maybe the story we have today is not close to what actually it was. But point is, when debates are focused on today's world, I just feel we should keep the story as a base.. What we know MB today includes everything, no? For example today I start a story.
You make Karna do something great.
I make Karna do something completely opposite.
Amrita makes Drau do something and makes her 30 year old.
Some X, Y and Z do not like it and put in something where Drau is 10 and it's impossible.
It's like Spin the Yarn. But ultimately, the story built up includes your, mine and Amrita's story. Now without we admitting, can any Tom/Dick or Harry make out which is added later which one is true? I can calm what I dislike an interpolation, you can say just the opposite. This way we are not learning anything but wasting our time assuming stuff.
I just think it is better to take the story as it is and give our views. We should not argue about if Karna is 40 or 14 or if Draupadi was disrobed or covered with cloth. The story is there and we should analyse it. I can't say you all sto discussing. But it's just silly how you all keep on saying this is interpolation, Drau was this... You can never be sure. What you can say is what you think.



Thank you for this one Brishti 👏
Nowadays we have a good logic, interpolation! I think I should start to claim that human staking was an interpolation too 😉 one researcher has said that as well.
Edited by Urmila11 - 10 years ago

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