Dharmakshetra :) - Page 43

Brishti

Originally posted by: Brishti_Sarkar

Saw that!! Thats like icing on the cake! Arjun becoming another slave and Bhrem holdimh his feet wil be even better ... Serves them right for calling Karna suta and killing him 😡

What will Mata Kunti do 😕 and Draupadi?

Originally posted by: Sabhayata

Bhas i wont agree that pandvas shared Draupaid against her will or forced her into it.Yes she it wouldn't have been her first choice but seeing the situation i think she had accepted it and had learnt to be happy with it.There was no force from any side just like pandvas had accepted the situation so had she

Here are my reasons

1)Both KMG and CE state that panchali wasn'tt grieving by end of day and had no malice in her heart for her husbands.If they were forcing her into this situation then this statement makes no sense.

2)After this whenever panchali is talked about she is generally shown enjoying her life which does indicate towards the fact that she had a happy married life.For example when krishna ji .Arjuna,Drau and Subhi all go for a picnic

3)Even after all that happened she speaks highly of her husbands to Jaydratha.This does show that even if she had her complaints against them she did hold a very high opinion of them as well.Which she wouldn't have if they would have forced her into an unhappy situation

4)there is a beautiful paragraph in bana parva which shows pandvas deeply caring for panchali when panchali faints.It involves pressing her feet,her head etc.This shows that they were no male chauvinistic people who would force a woman to do soemthing

Though i do think pandavs failed at crucial moments as husbands but they were definately no villains who would have forced panchali to marry all five of them

Only VH can be considered as it never happened but dragging,name calling and other things did happen its there in other parvas as well.

sabhhayata u never really agree with anything i write😉 and i totally love it!!!😛 maybe i am not mentally sound (😳) because i welcome denials more than agreements - it allows me to look back at my own perception again.

see my lines above in bold - do u really think that within the 1-yr rule Drau could have been happy of felt stifling!!! i mean just try to imagine practically if she had gotten pregnant with one husbands child say by the end of an year then what - would she be turned pregnant only to the other brother - what if the former brother wanted to spend time with his child's mother or vice-versa??? ( i know it sounds crude but no offense meant to Drau here)
how will be the romance when cramped within bounderies of a year and internal rooms and blocked routes?? the guy with whom you spend a year openly as wife , for next four years maintain strict platonic distance .

As for KMG , well for that one part of the potter's hut Drau seems to have completely lost her voice even to say an yes to the arrangement - we assume she is ok with it!! nobody asks her anything and nor is any thoughts of her on the arrangement present in the book. the otherwise eloquent Draupadi who could speak for herself in her swayamvar completely silent here does not digest at all. Did anyone vyasa/pandavas/drupad tell her about her past life story that she would accept it easily???- no!
the akashwani which says that she is born for destruction of kurus - does it say she is predestined to marry five men???
so as per KMG everyone else from vyasa to pandavs and kunti, to drupad knows the reason of why she is getting married to five men except fot the bride herself and she is totally ok with it?😲

as for living hapily / praising her husbands - does she have a choice with her???what would she gain by ranting /feeling sorry?? - i think she was just making lemonade out of sour lemons!!! but it doesnt excuse the pandavas!

when her husband whom she has garlanded minutes ago before all has said yes to her sharing wihtout even a token of asking to her - is that not a mental pressure/force ?? of taking her wishes / thoughts as granted???

p.s. and do share your thoughts on why narada says this story to them when they already passed a year of their marital life???

just a food for thought : suta is a son from Kshatriya male and Brahmin female right - which is what Yadu , son of Yayati and Devyani is , who is the progenitor of the yadavas race,
So isnt Krishna the great friend of Arjuna also a suta???hmmm?

^^^ Snakes bite hands which feed them! Technically, you are right.

Originally posted by: indianprincess

Maybe bcoz it was an archery contest so only arjun could win it.

Originally posted by: Urmila11

What will Mata Kunti do 😕 and Draupadi?

They are busy crying so... 😭

When marrying more than one man was NOT in practise in HP, why would Vyasa suggest such a morally reprehensible idea to Ps? That too added with a story having no logic at all. Such a stupidity can never be from the thoughts of a Sanyasi.

Dear Brahmaputra, there are two citations to prove in kMG and ce that vyasa tells pandavas that Draupadi will be the common wife of all 5 because of shivas boon, and after they meet dhauumya and he accepts to be their priest they are happy and believe that this an auspicious sign so Draupadi is already won for them,

"Vaisampayana continued, 'Having said so unto the Pandavas, the illustrious and blessed grandsire then bade them farewell. The great ascetic then left them and went to the place whence he had come.'"

Citation 2

Chatrata parva section CLXXXV

"Vaisampayana said, 'Then Arjuna, highly pleased with everything that had happened, gave unto that Gandharva, his weapon of fire with befitting ceremonies. And addressing him, the Pandava also said, 'O thou best of Gandharvas, let the horses thou givest us remain with thee for a time. When the occasion cometh, we will take them from thee. Blest be thou.' Then the Gandharva and the Pandavas, respectfully saluting each other, left the delightful banks of the Bhagirathi and went wheresoever they desired. Then, O Bharata, the Pandavas going to Utkochaka, the sacred asylum of Dhaumya installed Dhaumya as their priest. And Dhaumya, the foremost of all conversant with the Vedas, receiving them with presents of wild fruits and

p. 369

[paragraph continues] (edible) roots, consented to become their priest. And the Pandavas with their mother forming the sixth of the company, having obtained that Brahmana as their priest regarded their sovereignty and kingdom as already regained and the daughter of the Panchala king as already obtained in the Swayamavara. And those bulls of the Bharata race, having obtained the master Dhaumya as their priest, also regarded themselves as placed under a powerful protector. And the high-souled Dhaumya, acquainted with the true meaning of the Vedas and every rule of morality, becoming the spiritual preceptor of the virtuous Pandavas, made them his Yajamanas (spiritual disciples). And that Brahmana, beholding those heroes endued with intelligence and strength and perseverance like unto the celestials, regarded them as already restored, by virtue of their own accomplishments to their sovereignty and kingdom. Then those kings of men, having had benedictions uttered upon them by that Brahmana, resolved to go, accompanied by him, to the Swayamvara of the Princess of Panchala.'"

So there, for all intents and purposes proof that pandavas knowingly shared her, Arjun went with the intent of winning Draupadi for all 5 of them

Dear bhas