Dharmakshetra :) - Page 40

Originally posted by: Urmila11

Keshav is considered God so He was spared, but is Karna too a God for DK makers 😕
Anyway, I will love to make charge sheet for Karna 😆

Originally posted by: Urmila11

And he cursed Yudhi for helping in Drona vadh.

Originally posted by: Brishti_Sarkar

Exactly! Lets do it together Semanti 😉

Do we consider the ones for which he was already cursed in Bhoolok? I guess no? Like Lieng to Parshuram...

Originally posted by: Sabhayata

Yes Urmila Arjuna was always reluctant in killing those he respected even after Abhi Vadh but other than that he was awesome in war

He never hesitated.During 2nd or third day of war he did a lot of destruction.Enemy soldiers went back to their camp trembling at his name

So its not true that only after Abhi vadh he became dangerous.He was fighting the war with all his heart from day one and was dangerous did a lot of destruction before that as well but was just reluctant in killing those whom he respected

Originally posted by: Sabhayata

Yes I know dear 😊 and I respect his mentality 👏 how many of us can show such respect to elders even in a war? Despite of being the best archer he was so reluctant to kill his elders, that touches my heart 😊 maybe this is the same forgiveness he learned from his brother.

Edited by Urmila11 - 10 years ago

Originally posted by: Urmila11

And I believe Yudhi would never have even thought to snatch a girl won by Arjun if there was no order from Kunti. If Arjun had won her, Arjun only SHOULD get her, that was clearly his uttering in epic.

Originally posted by: Urmila11

😆 no, no, let's forget that killing homa cow and lieing to Parshuram. But I would like to start from his young age itself 😈 why unnecessary jealousy and enmity with an innocent boy in Gurukul? He did not harm you, so why do you want to kill him? Karna even wanted brahmastra with that intention if I'm not wrong. He was involved in poisoning Bheem too. He should not be spared for these things. He was involved in lakshagriha conspiracy. Then I will not forget his repetitive harsh words to Bhishma, Vidur, Drona etc. Drona was his Guru but what a respect he has given to Drona don't want to mention other activities here 😆 everybody knows them.
Oh did I not make a charge sheet already for him 😆 there is a thread in MM forum dedicated only to Karna's negative sides, it was an eye opener for non epic readers. I will just copy paste from there. He was the one who provoked his best friend to 'enjoy' Pandavas in poor condition (ghosha yatra parvadhyaya). He was involved in plan of sending Durvasa to Pandavas. He was involved in plan of seizing Krishna.
God, charge sheet is becoming long 😳

Originally posted by: indianprincess

Urmila what are ur views on indonesian MB coz in that its written that drau was only yudi's wife(i wish it was true) and is considered more authentic than indian versions.

Originally posted by: bhas1066

just my thoughts:

see in order to not change the main event , we need to know were the events that actually occured. now its a case that almost everything - VH, Bheeshma,Karna's deaths etc - are confusing and inconsistent which gives a lot leeway for creative liberties.
still there are only 2 major game-changing events that needs clarification to deduce who was on the right side- first is the sharing of panchali and second is the VH. (readers note that both are connected to the major enigma od MB- Draupadi)

1. sharing of panchaali - the big ques whether she was forced or okay with it. the epic doesnt mention her being unhappy with the arrangement and nobody including Krishna ever rebuked the pandavs for it(leave aside Karna for now). now comes the 1-year part - is it true or not? its absolutely hard to accept drau being okay with the sharing alongwith the strict regulations of the 1-year rule (why was the story told to yudi after a year or so inbetween his marriage?). if the rule was not there or was only restricted to the bed(for paternity of the children, i think) , then i can say that drau had more power to her then any other dwapar yuga lady.👍🏼

2. the VH - did it occur or not ? now majority do agree that dragging drau happened but the Vh did not , no saviour dharma, no name calling karna. my major doubt is in those days men never came near menstrating women, so why would drau accompany her husband till hastinapur in that state? dushasan is ok to get her from women's quarters, she is bought into the court but none of the brahmins there get up and walk away?? instead after seeing that VH miracle (assuming that it did happen) all they ask unanimously is to answer her ques whetehr she is won or not???😕 the vows taken by bheem for dushi in Vh is repeated again in section LXXVI. why repeat the vows unless that is the first time he takes them?🤔

the conclusion of what i am trying to say is

if the sharing of draupadi was against her wishes then by no way can pandavas be on the side of righteousness - no matter what the norms back then. they become the sower of seeds for the VH and equally guilty.

if the VH did not actually occur , the entire name calling , the miracle of clothes etc did not occur then the kauravs are vindicted from evil blackish monsters to greyish characters(of course karna is totally vindicted) and the reason for the war solely becomes the kingdom/land.


so who is the hero nd who is the villian???? the first vindicates/ incriminates the pandavs while the second does for kauravas and both are connected to the star of the MB show - Draupadi.
if we unravel her mystery we unravel the mahabharata!!