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Originally posted by: grumpydwarf

@Grabit

If their going by Rebecca than she will feel like she is second best?

Originally posted by: grumpydwarf

The dialogue SRK uttered in the end was funny. I would love to have seen RNJ tell Gayatri something like that. The shirt dressing humor didn't make sense after Gayatri was willing enough to tie his dhoti. Why the hesitation there? Or was he trying to tell her something indirectly, that he enjoyed it so much he didn't want he process to stop.

There was some what of Romantic undercurrent in the Swades scene but it was not as blatant as oppose to what we are seeing in the show. SRK's character clearly felt something when the character was tying his dhoti but romance was not the main theme of the film it was just more of a side element. Now its based on preference on which one a person would prefer subtle romance or blatant, sugary type.

Originally posted by: BertieWooster

Okay, so a more objective analysis after a second viewing based on Chick's recco...I was so pissed off by that monologue that I just took off on a rant..and that spoiled everything else that followed for me...

So let me retrace my steps and try to be a little more balanced this time...

Hits

1. I really like the fact that even in the lighter or more emotional moments, Sid maintains the reserve of a king...the way he greeted his in laws...and his expression when asked to change into a dhoti...very cute and yet with the right amount of reserve...nice!

2. I liked Gayathri- Damayanthi conversation. So typically mother like in wanting to know 'if all was well'...and Gayathri's reassuring her...

3. I liked the moment between Damayanthi - RNJ...he is touched by her show of gratitude..he feels he does not quite deserve it considering he had misunderstood Gayathri...but the kingly reserve is not going to let him say that..instead he tells her that her daughter can never come to any harm since she has a mother like her...I like the way they played it...the mother-in-law had to remember that she was talking to her son-in-law who was also the King..and the King had to remember his royal status...and yet they tried to say whatever they had to...without compromising their respective positions...these two can never be Maa and Beta..not when his own mother is Rajmata...

4. The dhoti scene...started off quite cutely...G was so caught up in the mess that he had made of the dhoti that she didn't seem to realize that her husband was topless...anyway, the realization took over when she placed her hand on his chest... both became acutely aware of the moment..and it became a reversal of the dori scene...except that both were perfectly at ease with the intimacy...very nice that..unlike the playful sensuality of the previous episode's scene, this one was more a helpless admission of their susceptibility to each other...particularly RNJ...he did not hesitate to show at every point that he was affected...quite like G had during the dori scene...

What struck me most was the ease even in the midst of the sexual tension...if the previous episode was playful almost in its tone and trying to get better of the other, this one was more a confession...RNJ asked for more...and G told him that now was not the time..but she promised more at a later time...very well done once again by both Sid and DD..particularly given that they are having back to back scenes of this kind..to try for a different pitch every time...the chemistry was very different from what we had seen before...like I said, it was indicative of a comfort level where RNJ had no qualms showing his need openly..no turning away...😳 Sid is so very good at expressing sensual tension ..he does it elegantly and yet emphatically...

5. I really liked RNJ telling Seth ji that he was a son-in-law and would do what it took...very sweet moment that..G was naturally beaming with pride...but RNJ became the king when he gently castigated Seth ji for his chauvinism and suggested a change of ways...of course Seth ji gladly obliged...nice...again, I really like that the son-in-law is always the King...but the King is not always the son-in-law...really like the way Sid is making that distinction...excellent body language..!

6. Finally the scene that brought back Sulakshana...! I did not find it sudden or contrived...it was the first time that he was consciously planning and initiating intimacy and his conscience chose the wrong moment to rear its ugly head...it shows that much as the flesh may be willing, sometimes the mind plays tricks...unfortunately the bangle showed its ugly face at the wrong time...or maybe the right time..because RNJ really needs to resolve this in his head if he has to move on...

I liked Sid's expressions when he feels the torment of conscience pangs...he is frustrated, angry and agonized...Drashti was of course excellent in her inability to accept that her husband's past was constantly proving a block in their relationship...

Misses

1. I would have liked a warmer and more ceremonial welcome for the king/ son-in-law. Felt very empty somehow...

2. The king is sent off to change his clothes without an escort? And then, after he and his wife go to all the trouble, there is no puja scene 😲😕

3. I hated the first monologue post the scene with the mother ...it was so flat,..how was it even passed...and why did they even need it...I muted the scene and watched..and his expressions conveyed his guilt and remorse well enough...where was the need to make it verbal? It spoilt the entire episode for me so much so that everything seemed bad after that...when it wasn't quite so bad after all!

4. The last scene before Mata Rani didn't work for me...the dialogues were very meh...they could have been much more powerful...and Sulakshana's appearance when he is in a trance is not Mata Rani showing the way but his own guilty conscience superimposing her claim...that is why he says he has too many questions and no answers...it might be construed as misleading...! RNJ's conflict was seen but not very powerful..but am assuming the torment was already there in the previous scene..so they wanted to limit it to questions...but somehow, placing the scene in a temple and showing him speaking to the Goddess did not work for me...it did not go with RNJ's characterization...it could have been played very differently...I was frankly surprised to see him talking to the Goddess...he could have sat under the skies and spoken to the stars maybe...might have felt more impactful...!

Originally posted by: BertieWooster

Thanks for this,Shwets...

Yes, there is a man, woman and a dhoti in that scene...but the intent and purpose to the scenes are so far apart that comparing them would make no sense..at least to me...not even SRK would say his scene was better because the two scenes are quite dissimilar in treatment and context except for the FL helping the ML with the dhoti...

For one, the sensuality quotient in the show's scene was a zillion times more than in the Swades scene..but that was simply because the Swades scene was not meant to be sensual at all...

I have already waxed eloquent about the dhoti scene..

And Chick has given a beautiful interpretation to the wonderful collage Shweta's made and shared...

Kudos to Sid and Drashti once again...am sorry to get repetitive but their free and frank interpretation of desire is not something I've seen often on desi TV. Acting is being and they were in those two scenes...enough said!

Originally posted by: arshisfan

Obviously reading behind the lines and expressions is better than a non convincing monologue 😆 Recasting scenes in mind is just a way to counter frustration, obviously no one is asked to do it, it's a tiring thing, we are at the receiving end, it's up to them to make scenes and make us buy into them, as I said before we are here for entertainment, it's just that (I suppose) here in sushpective we are people who don't look only for lollypoops and romantic scenes only but to a connect with characters and emotions in a smoothly flowing story


@Bold I hope they don't, it's too early even with the pressure of TRPs, but again I reiterate that I understand that their job isn't easy, poor people work for 12 to 16 hours a day!!


By the way your favorite Sidhant is very active, he wakes up at 5am, does his workout and crosses 47km to come to work👏 Sid looks really dashing in this segment



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