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Posted: 9 years ago


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Posted: 9 years ago
My main issue with the Mandir scene was Sid was trying too hard. Had he tried a little less the scene might have been flat but looked more natural. Study his expression carefully it looks very forced .
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Posted: 9 years ago
The King tells his mother-in-law something to the effect that with a mother like you, a daughter will never face bad things in her life.
Given that it was the same mother who insisted on wedding her daughter off to a man of the same age as her and was willing to part with enough dowry to make the alliance, it struck me as inappropriate. Inappropriate on the part of the creatives / dialogue writer to have put that in because they know the story. Inappropriate for the King because there is no basis for this pronouncement -- what is it that the King has seen of the mother that he is ready to make this pronouncement?

Now, doesn't the King have duties at his palace during the festivities, apart from his royal duties? Or is it that one year won't make a difference when he has been away for six years?

And what about the exercise that the royal servants were put to? Cleaning up the paraphernalia from the storeroom. Or perhaps the Royal Couple are here only for the first few days of the nine-days long festivities and will return to the palace soon.

As part of the cost-cutting schemes, have they dispensed with the attendants at least for the Royal Couple? And the escorts and guards? Given the attempts on the lives of the Royal Couple, a cavalier attitude indeed!
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: arshisfan



You can watch the Dhoti scene, and the bedroom scene, acting was good there, now how you would have preferred it to play out is another thing


So basically something similar to the day before
The leads scenes were good.. With great chemistry but story lackingbin flow/connect
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Posted: 9 years ago
In all the discussion about everything that went wrong, I forgot to mention one tiny moment that connected real well with me.
When RNJ gently teases G about being disappointed over not seeing his best fried at the dining table...he is so good at turning tables on people and not just in moments fraught with sensuality 😳

He drops his royal reserve only with G...even with RM, it is most often the King with the son peeking out rarely...like when she threatened to shoot herself or when they were talking about selling Mor Pankh..

He is himself with G...and that is a beautiful thing...I think G uses her teasing as a technique to get him to drop that reserve...she does not want the King coming between her and her husband...she does need to realize that the King needs to stay in public...that apart, it is really nice to see their interplay...but it would be nice to see G reflecting on this sometime...she is reacting to the obvious but somewhere missing the nuances to her husband's character...would be nice if the script brought these out...

G is being painted in very broad strokes...I want to see more shades to her, more insight and more depth...to register that her playfulness with RNJ is a means to an end almost...not in a manipulative but in a nice way..!


Sid's dialogue delivery gets staccato in the monologues at times. Hope he works on that. Personally I am happy if they can even do away with monologues because an actor's face is as much a tool as his voice...not everything needs to be spoken...

I also feel that it is more misplaced guilt than love for Sulakshana that is driving RNJ. When he spotted the bangle, he recalled the promises made to her about preserving all her possessions and himself too exclusively for her. The flashback moment showed him handing it over to G. It was like a broken promise. Even if being faithful to a dead person is kind of illogical, the fact remains that it was this promise that was the driving force in his relationship with G initially. He held her responsible for making him break his promise and was determined not to confer Sulakshana's rights on her. Now when he was finding himself being taken over heart and soul by G, Sulakshana kind of manifested herself through the bangle and sent him on a guilt trip for breaking all his vows to her! We all have self images that we cherish and often, it is not such a nice feeling to have it broken. RNJ prided himself on being a man of his word and now a promise made to his dead wife was coming back to taunt him over having broken his word!

He is not confused about G. He feels very strongly for her and quite obviously, he wants her real bad. There is no conflict there. The problem is only in his ability to deal with past reminders or rather the guilt associated with broken promises. It might seem stupid even but then, who said the human mind is rational at all times!

At the temple, he speaks sadly of the shadows of the past on his relationship with G, about how his past memories are manifesting themselves and blocking his path to the future...! He is helpless in the face of this guilt that seems to surface every time his past memories manifest themselves before him! The king stood as a helpless husband before the Goddess, asking her to show him a way out...! A way out of this maze of guilt that trapped him right when he chose to act on his conscious decision to take the relationship with G to a physical realm. It was not a response like during the dori scene or the jewellery scene but rather a conscious effort to initiate intimacy on his part. It was not just the flesh but the mind as well that was involved in the decision and the effort.

When he looked inward hoping to find a way out of the maze that he seemed to be stuck in, it seemed that there was a light at the end of the tunnel. He rushed towards it, subconsciously hoping to see G's face. What he got instead was the face of his guilt! And he was not happy to see it! For it was not the way forward he sought!

He categorically told the Goddess that he wanted answers to the questions plaguing him...the most important of which was how to deal with this guilt and purge it from his system...

I do not see any confusion with his intent...only that he has hapless in the face of his guilt and needs a way to resolve it in his head...

Now, it could even be intuition...considering the conspiracy being hatched, maybe some inner sense is warning him of the troubles ahead...

Either way, I am increasingly convinced that the creatives are somehow headed towards the breaking of Sula's image...since that is the most obvious and the most comprehensive way for him to be completely guilt free!


@arshisfan

Agree with most of your observations...some many things could have been done better but unfortunately, we can only process and react to what we see...I am happy to read between the lines, happy to read expressions and not listen to monologues but I cannot be asked to recast scenes in mind...that is asking for too much...in their race against deadlines and fight for TRPs, writers cannot forget the basic passion that drives the story...that which has gotten us engrossed and discussing it in detail..!



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Posted: 9 years ago
Nice update Shwets.

I totally loved the RaGa moments yesterday. The dhoti scene as well as room scene. I was completely lost in them be it fun side or romantic side of RaGa (Not going into details). And I had no problem with Ranaji's memories getting evoked seeing kangan. That is fine n many were complaining that how can Ranaji forget Sona completely suddenly, so today we got to know actually he hasnt.

I liked Gayatri n Damyanti's scene n i liked Damyanti n Ranaji scene too. That scene could have been longer but i guess they have time constraint as Zee is promoting karwachauth of all shows, so may be they have to reach at that point in particular no of days.
Yeah dialogues of Ranaji's monologue could have been better but still that was fine. The message got conveyed

Yeah social issue at dining table was handled very well and i loved how Ranaji teased Gayatri back after convincing Govind Seth. 😆

Drashti has always been superb while emoting. And abt Ranaji's scene in front of Goddess, i dont have prob with scene as such but yeah scene didnt look that impactful. I m not that expert to say if it was director's fault or actor's fault but yeah scene could have been more impactful. As a viewer i felt actor should have done better n especially when Sid is from theatre background. Sorry no offense to his fans or those who felt scene was very impactful.

Overall i liked the episode. It also answered some doubts.
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I know Drashti is known for her comic timing and that her fans love seeing her in the bubbly avataar. But does Gayathri have to be like every other character she has played before? Whenever she goes into comic mode, there is a strong sense of deja vu...I don't know where the problem lies..if it is the actor's interpretation, what is the director doing...why doesn't he control this tendency to go overboard? Drashti is a fine actress and she is certainly capable of playing it down if required. I wish her director would tell her or someone else will! Her every role should not become a reprisal of the first!
I wish the director of this show handled his actors better!
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Posted: 9 years ago
Thank you Shwets for the lovely collages..forgot to say that...so busy was I in drooling over you know who 😉😆
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: Danseuse



@chicksoup : Nope. Cant agree. Reason being that the jewellery given by RaniMaa to Rana Deo was the heirloom collection, so its obvious that Sulakshana also had it, which came back to RaniMaa after her demise! 😃 Can u imagine a situation where the pillow cover or bedroom decor has any item of Sulakshans's taste or liking, what will happen to Rana Deo? He can wake up in the middle of the night after an awesome sensual rendezvous with Gayatri and yell,"Sulakshana! Oh Sulakshana!" What a tragedy. 😃 Its crazy! When he does archery or dines or walks in the lawns, everything needs to remind him of his dead wife!! The Sulakshana entry into Rana Deo's mind was grossly mistimed. There is a black veiled woman chasing the couple around. Where was she when Rana Deo was away at war? What if he had come back with a beautiful memsaab? Its completely out of sync...

When Rana Deo decided to move on consciously, this could hav been avoided. They could hav just implanted Sulakshana right in front of him and then once he realises she is indeed alive, all the hallucinations can get kicked off. Would hav been very realistic...now the script has been tossed around!


-Rekha


Rekha,

Heirloom does not belong to any queen or princess in particular. It is just the family's treasure...NO WOMAN WOULD FEEL ATTACHED TO JEWELLERY THAT IS NOT ENTIRELY HERS...I think we can safely assume that the bangle was part of Sula's streedhan...and it was HER favourite bangle- belonged only to her.😉 (Even f it was part of the heirloom, this one bore her mark...it was a reminder she had left in his coat pocket. That way it is special indeed.)

I don't find it funny at all that RNJ has to settle this once and for all...It is not that he hated himself for what he felt about G...his prayer was a plea...even after he saw Sula in the dream, he wanted this to be sorted out...he clearly did not want to hang on to the guilt. He confessed that he was getting attracted to Gayatri...but there were promises he made another woman...if he were to entirely forget that after he got a new girl in his life, I would question RNJ's sincerity. Yes, what of the promises he made his dead wife? He has to move on...But would he be able to do justice to Gayatri's devotion? The answer is important to Gayatri too.

I don't know if Sulochana is a bad person or not...the veiled lady definitely is a control freak...That bangle was just the entry into RNJ's troubled mind...let us see what they have in store.


Am I the only one who wonders how RNJ will solve this. He cannot stop loving Sula. She will always be a part of him. If Sulochana still exists in subconscious..as we saw in the dream/ apparition... there is every likelihood RNJ will wake up one night screaming Sula's name...like U suggested.😆

What is it that Rana Deo feels for Gayatri exactly? Guilt for having mistrusted her and causing her harm? An invisible pull to a friendship that was forged under the stars? Or a physical attraction? Is she more important than the woman he carried in his memories for 6 long years? I find this pretty interesting actually...

😆 Waiting for the silly twist ahead to turn me off.😉
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