Pati Hamesha Sahi- Not really and that is not the Gundhan for a woman - Page 2

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MrDarcyfan thumbnail
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Great post. Agree with you. Even I was offended when they showed the Mum telling the daughter that Pati is always right! Like seriously? We all know this is not the case, coz your husband is also a man and a human, so he cant always be right. It is the wrong message for the Mother to give to the daughter. I was not happy with that. You are right, in Hindu custom it is shown that marriage is a partnership and in all faiths it is established as such.

In the Christian faith both man and women have to take vows of a similar nature and promise to love, honor and cherish your partner, in sickness and in health, for richer for poorer till death do us part.


What I know of Hindu traditions of marriage I have gleaned from watching BW movies and Indian TV shows. (to which I am relatively new). I have always found the chants so beautiful. Especially "Mangalam Baghavan Vishnu" and also "Sarwa Mangal Mangalye" which are just so amazing to listen to. We know that in the case of the marriage of Ranaji and Gayatri, she will hardly be standing behind him acting like a doormat. Eventually she will have to take her rightful place by his side. Coz lets face it, the man needs someone in his corner fighting for him. He is surrounded by vultures and people with agendas. He needs someone who will only think of what is good for him.
Edited by MrDarcyfan - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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I agree with your post. That comment jarred. However, I think, and this is only my guess, that Gayatri has so far been shown as progressive in thought. She did things that were not permitted in her times. Maybe just maybe, as she evolves, she will question the practices of those days.
This was before she fell in love, that is why I am guessing and not sure. ๐Ÿ˜†
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Superb post. I agree with u totally.
I hope CVs wont turn our heroine into abla nari otherwise it will also become a usual saas bahu serial
I didnt like what Gayatri's Mom said but we know she has been shown like this only whereas Gayatri has been shown quite progressive who doesnt stop herself from putting forward her point if she feels it is wrong. So i m positive. Hope CVs wont disappoint
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Posted: 10 years ago
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@Mr Darcy fan I am happy you love the chants. I hope you don't mind me giving the meanings of some of the chants
" Sarva Mangala Mangleye Sive Sarvartha Sadhike
Saranye Thrayimbe Gowri, Narayani Namosthuthe"
It is praising Goddess Shakthi, who is treated as mother and the one who is responsible for all the auspicious things and the one who grants all the wishes to her true devotees"
This mantra is used in Indian weddings because marriage is the most auspicious beginning of new life for 2 individuals together. And it heralds the beginning of responsibilities for both boy and girl and it is expected that their union uses power the right way for the benefit of the family and that of larger society. That's why Goddess Shakthi is evoked in her constructive form. As we all know Shakthi's destructive form is Durga or Kali.
There is another beautiful chant for Indian marriages, one that is said when the groom ties the Mangalsutra
" Mangalyam tantunanena mama jeevana hetuna: kanthe badhnami subhage twam jeeva sarada satam "
Meaning :This is a sacred thread. This is essential for my long life. I tie this around your neck O maiden having many auspicious attributes. May you live happily for a hundred years (with me)
Hence mangalsutra is a beautiful symbol of trust husband places on wife. That she is capable of protecting his life.
So if you look through every Vedic ritual, symbols at every point it highlights the beauty of hus-wife relation. A happy union of 2 souls, a sharing of responsibilities, depending on the nature one becomes action and other direction. So that we understand man and woman need each other. And the welfare of the society is in this balance, not in one over other.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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yes guys Gayatri is shown progressive and she speaks her mind. I had loved the way she begs her father not to marry her of to that old man. I also liked the fact that she wrote the letter to Ranaji to see if there is a chance she is not forced to marry a man who is older than her dad.
I mean Gayatri as a girl is shown taking actions than sitting and lamenting, this is my fate.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Equals we are but it's sets way back in the days also gayatris mother is married to a really good man and for that day and age her father is probably one of a kind who is a forward thinker and a kind and loving man so maybe in damyantis case what her mother taught her turned out to be right (luckily) and so she is passing it on. I've not seen any of this weeks episodes but I'm just commenting from what I hear.
What will be interesting to see is if Gayatri Tries to live by this..
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shruthiravi thumbnail
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Posted: 10 years ago
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@jagrutid one question if Damayanti has known her husband had actually made a deal of their daughter, would she have said what he did is right. Would any mother would want their daughter to be a deal in a relation. Damayanti's husband has not told about the deal with anyone. Because he himself knows what he is doing is wrong, his daughter is not going to get what she expects. Damayanti herself would have told her husband what he did is wrong atleast in private if she knows what he had done.
So the woman who says " Pati sahi hai" crib multiple times in private that Pati sahi nahi hai, but then this is my fate. That happens then and that happens now also. Easiest way is to accept the fact that Pati can be wrong at times. Atleast you need not have to crib and blame on fate for your inaction.
If Gayatri tries to live by this mantra God save Gayatri and Ranaji. There are enough manipulators in the palace who are after Ranaji's life. If someone doesn't understand the game and safeguard him, then it is the end.
Edited by shruthiravi - 10 years ago
jagrutid thumbnail
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: shruthiravi


@jagrutid one question if Damayanti has known her husband had actually made a deal of their daughter, would she have said what he did is right. Would any mother would want their daughter to be a deal in a relation. Damayanti's husband has not told about the deal with anyone. Because he himself knows what he is doing is wrong, his daughter is not going to get what she expects. Damayanti herself would have told her husband what he did is wrong atleast in private if she knows what he had done.

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So the woman who says " Pati sahi hai" crib multiple times in private that Pati sahi nahi hai, but then this is my fate. That happens then and that happens now also. Easiest way is to accept the fact that Pati can be wrong at times. Atleast you need not have to crib and blame on fate for your inaction.
<div>If Gayatri tries to live by this mantra God save Gayatri and Ranaji. There are enough manipulators in the palace who are after Ranaji's life. If someone doesn't understand the game and safeguard him, then it is the end.



Very true maybe Damyatis realisation will come at the same times as gayatris when she realises the dynamics of her marriage. As for her fathers wrong doing he's used business to try and secure his daughters future but only because he's seen that Gayatri has feelings for Rana and Rana has not made an open rejection. Had he known ranas feelings he wouldn't have gone this far .
Edited by jagrutid - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Awesome post ๐Ÿ‘
& agree with you ๐Ÿ˜Š

i so hate such idiot lines...

for me Man & Woman are equal

yes for a woman it's important to respect her husband & accept his good & right decisions but not his wrong decisions she do need to always keep saying yes yes etc...Wife has her own mind she can see the right & wrong...she can take her decision

besides i don't like such woman too who make her husband follow all her decisions be it right or wrong...

husband Wife relationship is based on trust ,love ,support ,care , understanding & giving the right to each other to take decisions...

anyone of them can be right or wrong at a time so non of them should follow the other with yes yes without voicing her/his pov about the situation

if anyone of them think the other is taking wrong decision she/he should voice out her pov then they can take a wise decision with mutual understanding & discussion...


About Damyanti's dialogues cvs are show her as a uneducated ,backward woman who is very backward & typical
besides the thing is she had a good husband with good thinking
& she think ranaji a gud person too so being a backward & uneducated she is saying this to her daughter

but i'm happy cvs are show both type of women one sides Damyanti with backward thinking the other side Gayatri , Rajmata ,& Badi rajmata with bright thinking who are smart educated & wise woman...


both wise & backward men & women are around the world be it this era or that era

hope & pray we get wise ppl men /woman in the world specially in asia so ppl can hv a better life


shruthiravi thumbnail
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Posted: 10 years ago
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@jagrutid I only told from Damayanti's POV, from sethji's POV he was between devil and deep sea. His daughter is manglik and if he doesn't accept the deal, her marriage will happen to a old man. And he has seen his daughter crying asking him not to marry her of to a man older than him. He understood Gayatri loves Ranaji and her feelings are used by Rajmatha for Ameerkot. He doesn't know how much Ranaji will love her. But atleast he knows his daughter loves Ranaji.
So he took the decision, if doesn't accept the deal he will be morally correct but then Gayatri can never be happy and her marriage to that old man is gross injustice
If he takes the deal morally he maybe incorrect, but he can hope at some point of time his daughter will get true happiness.
Actually for me in this case Sethji was not wrong. He took the best option available to him. On most occasions woman like Damayanti will take these morally incorrect decision as wrong. Because they realize only black and white. Not the grey.
Great stories that transcends time and age will always have characters that are grey than black or white. And it is exactly the reason even after 5000 years still Mahabharata is read and enjoyed. Because even today what happened then, happens now. Struggle for power has not changed even now. Rules of game are still the same. Even now more than talent cast and creed matters. Even now woman are treated as properties. Even now idealistic Abhimanyu's are killed in Chakravyuh because they don't know the rules of game. I love such stories where you transcend the realm of grey than see things in black or white. Because we humans always have black and white within us and based on situations we can be right or wrong.
Edited by shruthiravi - 10 years ago

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