Evil vs. Reacting to a situation

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Posted: 11 years ago
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If I had found out that my father, Suresh Modi, has been lying to me and my mother all along - naturally I would be pretty mad/hurt/enraged.

When Karan/Latika found out - they were also mad/hurt. This is perfectly normal.

When Shananya (or whatever her name is) found out about her father, she was also hurt/mad. She even complained to the police and ignores her father and his family. That's fine - normal reactions I suppose.

But when you go out of your way to cause harm to someone or something - you are evil. She's taking it to the next level - hurting Sharda/Sakshi, plotting against them, hiding her identity, lying to them, ruining their business, creating loss - that goes a bit beyond reacting to a situation.

Same with Pallavi. Being angry and reacting in the way she did (even demanding her place in her husband's life and house) is understandable. But going beyond that to plot against and hurt a woman who is completely harmless - that is evil.

This is especially so because Pallavi and her daughter know that Sharda and her kids have been equally hurt and lied to by the same man.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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I completely agree here , both the character have been butchered to the point of no return.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Nothing makes sense in this track.

In fact they should have shown Pallavi and Sharda together makes Suresh's life hell.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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That would have been fun.

But unfortunately Pallavi is too cunning and Sharda is too nice.

Before Pallavi and Sharda team up, Suresh will have already come to the conclusion that Pallavi is no good and that he made a maha-mistake.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Nivi090

That would have been fun.

But unfortunately Pallavi is too cunning and Sharda is too nice.

Before Pallavi and Sharda team up, Suresh will have already come to the conclusion that Pallavi is no good and that he made a maha-mistake.


This is what I don't understand. How can Suresh Modi who frauded Pallavi as Mahesh Ajmera "come" to any "conclusion" that Pallu baby is "no good" and that he made a "maha mistake"?

He married Pallavi for her dad's money. and also for the fact that she Pallavi is educated emancipate and he has good "company" is every sense of the word.

Now he married Shardaji under "family pressure" and made her churn butter every day for his breakfast.

Treated her like dirt made a doormat out of her even to the extent that kids except karan do not even respect her.

Suresh Modi married Shardaji knowing she does not know to read and write. and used this fact to insult her day in and day out. "took" it out on Sharda every other person's fault.

As if all this were not enough he cheated both women. Pallavi more than Sharda ill treated Sharda more than Pallavi

He has been "married" to both women for more than thrity five years.

Been married to Pallavi under a false name and identity. this is illegal an offence.

On top of that he "comes to the "conclusion"" that pallavi is "no good"?

When Pallavi's father's money was used to start the business and to make money and become a business tycoon was Pallavi "good"?

I mean if Suresh Modi has to find out if Pallavi was "good" should he not have found out sooner? He had thirty five long years to find out.

He did not care which way pallavi was because he could "afford" to be that wy. Because he had doormat Sharda to pamper his every wish. and to be his punching bad should anything go wrong. to churn out butter to take care of dadi etc. and He took sharda for granted and never respected her never treated her as equal . He had Pallu baby and did not need Sharda's love or affection.

In short he is a poser who used both Pallavi and Sharda

Now he "feels" Pallavi is "no good" only because his "second wife" Sharda "left" and the pampering he got from Sharda stopped. That is why.

He cannot complain about Pallavi because he married her for money. used her and her father killed their trust in him. He has no right to complain against anything or realize "who is "good" and who is "bad"" etc.

If viewers think Sharda is "good" then why did she leave Suresh Modi when she found out he has a first wife?

Because she Sharda is also like Pallavi having self respect and pride. Because she cannot bear that her husband has had two families at the same time for so long.

So what right has Suresh Modi to complain about anything? He deserves what he got in life.

So far he had had "free rides" now no more.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I agree OP to a certain degree. What irks me the most is that Pallavi is doing whatever she is doing because in a sense, she actually might be afraid of Sharda.
Think about it - Suresh, after admitting his love for Pallavi, walks out on Sharda. When Pallavi confronts him about the truth in his identity, he tells her that he wants to be with Pallavi. However, Suresh still returns to his house where he lives with Sharda (when Pallavi brings those legal documents, Suresh is with Sharda).

Sharda, despite leaving Suresh, still wears the signs of a wedded wife; mangal sutra & sindhur.

Dadi completely disapproves of Pallavi because she forces Sharda to leave, whereas it's justified for Pallavi to want to move in being the "first wife" and someone who wants to get to know her husband's side of the family even more since she was kept in the dark about it for so many years.

Whenever Suresh sneaks away, it's to go meet Sharda. And the worst part is that he either lies to Pallavi or doesn't bother telling her about it. That would really freak anyone out, regardless if you are the husband (and having your wife sneak out to meet with her "ex-husband") or the wife (and having your husband sneak out to meet with his "ex-wife").

Did she take it to some serious measures by trying to take over Sharda's patola sari business? Yes, but there was a reason behind it. If Suresh did not bother going (or even informing Pallavi) of his visit to the puja at Sharda's factory, things would have been very different because Pallavi wouldn't have felt threatened by Sharda.

Maybe what Pallavi craves the most is Suresh's (and his mother's) full, undivided love and respect. Can she be blamed for her actions, sure, but I wouldn't blame her as much as I blame Suresh and Sharda (I blame Sharda more because she still hasn't let go of her past).
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: shyam09

I agree OP to a certain degree. What irks me the most is that Pallavi is doing whatever she is doing because in a sense, she actually might be afraid of Sharda.

Think about it - Suresh, after admitting his love for Pallavi, walks out on Sharda. When Pallavi confronts him about the truth in his identity, he tells her that he wants to be with Pallavi. However, Suresh still returns to his house where he lives with Sharda (when Pallavi brings those legal documents, Suresh is with Sharda).

Sharda, despite leaving Suresh, still wears the signs of a wedded wife; mangal sutra & sindhur.

Dadi completely disapproves of Pallavi because she forces Sharda to leave, whereas it's justified for Pallavi to want to move in being the "first wife" and someone who wants to get to know her husband's side of the family even more since she was kept in the dark about it for so many years.

Whenever Suresh sneaks away, it's to go meet Sharda. And the worst part is that he either lies to Pallavi or doesn't bother telling her about it. That would really freak anyone out, regardless if you are the husband (and having your wife sneak out to meet with her "ex-husband") or the wife (and having your husband sneak out to meet with his "ex-wife").

Did she take it to some serious measures by trying to take over Sharda's patola sari business? Yes, but there was a reason behind it. If Suresh did not bother going (or even informing Pallavi) of his visit to the puja at Sharda's factory, things would have been very different because Pallavi wouldn't have felt threatened by Sharda.

Maybe what Pallavi craves the most is Suresh's (and his mother's) full, undivided love and respect. Can she be blamed for her actions, sure, but I wouldn't blame her as much as I blame Suresh and Sharda (I blame Sharda more because she still hasn't let go of her past).


I don't get this. Suresh after admitting his "love" for Pallavi "returns" to Sharda. ?

Does Pallu baby believe Suresh Modi's "love" for her? Anyone who claims to love a woman would not have a second wife and family for thirty five years and three children and last of all would not have hidden it from her for thrity five long years. If he does that chances are that Suresh Modi has no real love or affection for Pallavi . Has been only pretending for so long.

If a man lived with a second family for thirty five years and that too with his original name he would not abandon them just because Pallu found out. He did not abandon Sharda and kids. In fact he tells Sharda to accept and live with him as she earlier did. It was she who walked out on Suresh Modi. Agreed Pallavi came to throw her out legally. But if she fought back she could have stayed in the hosue. It was she who abandoned Suresh Modi.

Now Pallu how can she expect Suresh Modi to sever ties with Sharda at one go? Even if Suresh Modi severed ties for fear of Pallavi how does that make his cheating Pallavi for thirty five long years go away?

For that matter how can Pallavi believe Suresh that he "loves" only her? She is stupid. Sharda is not his "ex wife" Sharda was his present day wife simultaneous wife who walked out Suresh on her own. even if Pallavi had not come up with documents.

Suresh goes to meet Sharda on the "sly" not as he is meeting with his wife or his ex wife . He goes to meet her for some specific reason.

Sharda starts a pattola business to make a living. On her own after giving everything to Pallavi. And she did not ask Suresh Modi to come and meet her. Rather she and Pallavi are both in the same situation this Pallavi herself said. That being so Pallavi is tolerating Suresh why should she go and ruin Sharda's factory because she is "insecure" of Sharda?

Every now and then she gives back Suresh Modi saying she is not "Sharda" meaning she does not want to be in Sharda's shoes.

Dadi would naturally like Sharda because Sharda was her choice for bahu to the bloke guy.

What does Sharda know?

And that way Pallavi why should she want Suresh and Dadi's attention? She cannot forgive Suresh for cheating her and marrying Sharda according to his family's wishes.

Pallavi "craving" for "undivided" attention of Suresh Modi and Dadi is even stupider. because Suresh Modi is not worth forgiveness. He is an opportunist. And getting "undivided" attention does not make a family of three go away. Chirag and Latika are in front of Pallavi's eyes every day reminding her of Suresh Modi's duplicity.

Sharda wears mangal sutra or not is her personal problem. Why should Pallavi worry about it? Sharda has been living in Mumbai along with Suresh Modi as his "legal wife" for thirty five long years. Just because Pallavi has some papers does not mean thirty five years of married life as per religious rites and as per Sharda and Dadi's belief that she was the only wife of Suresh Modi can be erased out. IMHO Sharda can take the bloke to court. and fight her case. Because she has been cheated more than Pallavi. I don't know what you mean by Sharda not "letting go" of her "past" Wasn't she the one who confronted Suresh Modi regarding his doosri shaadi? Wasn't she the one who decided to "walk out" first? She wears mangalsutra does not wear mangalsutra it is her wish. She is the mother of her kids through Suresh Modi. Nobody can insult her because the first marriage is the "valid one" .

@shyam009 you talk like Sharda walkd out of the house only because Pallavi threw her out . It is not so. She is the one who walked out of Suresh Modi first. Regarding the house she could have fought for the house. and the property. But she chose not to fight. Because she does not want anything of Suresh Modi.

Sharda starts Pattola business it is her own venture. Even if she kept her "jewelry" it is her own because of her contribution to Suresh Modi's life and business all these years. rightfully so Pallavi if she feels "insecure" she is stupid. It becomes a cat/dog fight over a man between two women. If Pallavi fights for Suresh Modi she is stupid.

Because he is not worth fighting for.


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Posted: 11 years ago
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I don't think Suresh loved or loves anyone but himself.

I would love to see both women giving it back to him together.

But I know that this is not likely to happen as they are evil-izing Pallavi to the extent that Suresh starts reminiscing of the 'good days' of life with Sharda. Also this show is about Sharda - all focus and points of action will be to or by her.

If I've seen enough Hindi shows - I feel wise to make a prediction that Suresh will start hating Pallavi and will want Sharda back. Sharda will give way for Suresh to love and respect her. The makers will then stretch the whole evil Pallavi track, end her life in the show, or make her an angel woman who will somehow leave Suresh for Sharda.




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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: u4tlu


I don't get this. Suresh after admitting his "love" for Pallavi "returns" to Sharda. ?

Does Pallu baby believe Suresh Modi's "love" for her? Anyone who claims to love a woman would not have a second wife and family for thirty five years and three children and last of all would not have hidden it from her for thrity five long years. If he does that chances are that Suresh Modi has no real love or affection for Pallavi . Has been only pretending for so long.

If a man lived with a second family for thirty five years and that too with his original name he would not abandon them just because Pallu found out. He did not abandon Sharda and kids. In fact he tells Sharda to accept and live with him as she earlier did. It was she who walked out on Suresh Modi. Agreed Pallavi came to throw her out legally. But if she fought back she could have stayed in the hosue. It was she who abandoned Suresh Modi.

Fight back? How? She has no money, she has no proof, and for all we know - serial laws are pretty much the opposite of reality law. Hence why Pallavi claims that being the first wife to an alias = everything, and being the "second" wife to the original name = nothing.

Now Pallu how can she expect Suresh Modi to sever ties with Sharda at one go? Even if Suresh Modi severed ties for fear of Pallavi how does that make his cheating Pallavi for thirty five long years go away?

For that matter how can Pallavi believe Suresh that he "loves" only her? She is stupid. Sharda is not his "ex wife" Sharda was his present day wife simultaneous wife who walked out Suresh on her own. even if Pallavi had not come up with documents.

Suresh goes to meet Sharda on the "sly" not as he is meeting with his wife or his ex wife . He goes to meet her for some specific reason.

I disagree here. Every single meeting Suresh has had with Sharda thus far has no specific purpose, except he misses her or something. The first meeting was the Puja. He doesn't bother to mention this to Pallavi and he even tells Sharda that he won't be coming. Not only does he end up showing up, but he decides to partake in the Puja as "Sharda's husband". Meeting 2 was when Sharda went to the office to relinquish her claim on all the property. The meeting in the office was formal, but the meeting outside the office was very very personal. The reason could be he wanted to keep a friendly relationship with Sharda, but he has been treating this woman cruelly for so many years, I don't think it's an appropriate reason to even think about. Meeting 3 was when Suresh gets pissed off at Pallavi because she didn't ask him if he wanted some tear. So he rushes off and passes through Sharda's factory, but he decides to go in and visit her. The reason here is he wanted a servant to give him tea without him asking for it, which I'll accept. But I still consider it a sneaky meeting.

Sharda starts a pattola business to make a living. On her own after giving everything to Pallavi. And she did not ask Suresh Modi to come and meet her. Rather she and Pallavi are both in the same situation this Pallavi herself said. That being so Pallavi is tolerating Suresh why should she go and ruin Sharda's factory because she is "insecure" of Sharda?

Every now and then she gives back Suresh Modi saying she is not "Sharda" meaning she does not want to be in Sharda's shoes.

Dadi would naturally like Sharda because Sharda was her choice for bahu to the bloke guy.

What does Sharda know?

And that way Pallavi why should she want Suresh and Dadi's attention? She cannot forgive Suresh for cheating her and marrying Sharda according to his family's wishes.

Pallavi "craving" for "undivided" attention of Suresh Modi and Dadi is even stupider. because Suresh Modi is not worth forgiveness. He is an opportunist. And getting "undivided" attention does not make a family of three go away. Chirag and Latika are in front of Pallavi's eyes every day reminding her of Suresh Modi's duplicity.

Exactly. I too didn't get the reason for her to join the house and serve Suresh. But this "desire" to be with him is the closest I've gotten. She doesn't have to live with him to have control over the property, so I figured this could be a reason why Pallavi went through all that trouble.

Sharda wears mangal sutra or not is her personal problem. Why should Pallavi worry about it? Sharda has been living in Mumbai along with Suresh Modi as his "legal wife" for thirty five long years. Just because Pallavi has some papers does not mean thirty five years of married life as per religious rites and as per Sharda and Dadi's belief that she was the only wife of Suresh Modi can be erased out. IMHO Sharda can take the bloke to court. and fight her case. Because she has been cheated more than Pallavi. I don't know what you mean by Sharda not "letting go" of her "past" Wasn't she the one who confronted Suresh Modi regarding his doosri shaadi? Wasn't she the one who decided to "walk out" first? She wears mangalsutra does not wear mangalsutra it is her wish. She is the mother of her kids through Suresh Modi. Nobody can insult her because the first marriage is the "valid one" .

@shyam009 you talk like Sharda walkd out of the house only because Pallavi threw her out . It is not so. She is the one who walked out of Suresh Modi first. Regarding the house she could have fought for the house. and the property. But she chose not to fight. Because she does not want anything of Suresh Modi.

True Sharda walked out first, but after Dadi had that heart attack and wanted Sharda to stay by her side, it seemed like all plans of moving out were forgotten. She was still assuming her role as the housewife. She wasn't taking care of just Dadi and looking towards the future. The day Pallavi decides to move in, was the day everyone (except Suresh) was going out for a picnic. I personally feel that Pallavi delivered the final blow that forced Sharda to actually leave the house once and for all. If it wasn't for Pallavi, I honestly wonder how long it would have taken to get Sharda out of the house. Maybe it would have been until Karan gets a job and finds a house suitable to live in. But maybe Dadi would have convinced Sharda to stay for her sake (it's a stretch, but anything could have happened).

Sharda starts Pattola business it is her own venture. Even if she kept her "jewelry" it is her own because of her contribution to Suresh Modi's life and business all these years. rightfully so Pallavi if she feels "insecure" she is stupid. It becomes a cat/dog fight over a man between two women. If Pallavi fights for Suresh Modi she is stupid.

Because he is not worth fighting for.

Fine the jewelry is hers, she can wear that. But then why wear the sindhur? Maybe it's something the CVs need to clear up because I don't see the need to wear either mark of a married woman, if she isn't using her married surname anymore. Selling the mangal sutra was a start, so maybe there will be some clarifications in the future?

But I agree with you. He definitely isn't worth fighting for.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: shyam09

Fine the jewelry is hers, she can wear that. But then why wear the sindhur? Maybe it's something the CVs need to clear up because I don't see the need to wear either mark of a married woman, if she isn't using her married surname anymore. Selling the mangal sutra was a start, so maybe there will be some clarifications in the future?

But I agree with you. He definitely isn't worth fighting for.


Women wear sindoor out of habit. Because old habits die hard. Sharda had lived the life of a married woman for thirty five years. She walked out on Suresh Modi . What does that have to do with sindoor? These things don't matter. She had given her everything to the life with Suresh Modi for thirty five years. Can anybody give back the thirty five years of her life? Why take away the sindoor? Wearing Sindoor not wearing Sindoor does not really matter .

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