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Posted: 10 years ago
#41
Well for me dumla was not a woman who was selfless but selfish she analyse it the way that t get wat she wanted she has t be at service of the kapoors
She gave them undivided attention which allow them t crush her .
Saving makhi n not kalpi was not an act that be justified by any justification given by dumla she siw the seed of insecurity in one child heart n other a sense of always being at gain
Dumla thought kalpi is strong yes it was true but even strong people need love affection then where it goes dumla always made excuse makhi need more care but she was also adult then how she was insensitive t wat her own daughter felt at child level pakhi was weak but adult that not defined
From my opinion dumla wanted t be in good book of that makhi n family n yet fail t be a good mom where she would has been treated As angel in her own house had she given them undivided attention love needed
Edited by sweet1308 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
#42

I never liked the character Kamla. I found her to be one shrewd mother without an iota of selfless bone in her. For a mother her child's welfare always comes first no matter what the circumstance, or hardship bestowed or the environment that surrounded you. She saw big dreams, dreams for her daughter to become a memsahib but never did she once ask what her own daughter wanted. What were her dreams, aspirations, goals. Perhaps these were Kamla's own unrequited dreams that she secretly harbored for herself, and Kalpi was her means to achieve it. She was always willing to work for the Kapoors at any given time and available at their beck and call, without realizing the impact of her actions on her own family, her own daughter. She tried to straddle both worlds but ended up with nothing, neither Pakhi her pseudo daughter or a life of comfort. I left Kalpi out as to me Kalpi was a commodity to her, a pawn she used to get her way, through emotional blackmail, manipulative and calculative moves and nothing else. From childhood she ignored her own daughter, denied her a mother's love, her own milk and instead gave that right to Pakhi. She sold her motherhood to Pakhi and the Kapoors when she fed Pakhi her milk, cared for her 24x7 and neglected her own kin. Kalpi was conceived by Kamla but she was raised and given an identity by her father. Kamla had no hand in developing Kalpi. Being in boarding school taught Kalpi to be self-reliant and her father's love gave her the support, security and unconditional love a child needs and seeks from a parent.

Coming to the drowning scene - for a child to see her own mother leave her to drown and save another, is heart wrenching not to mention the lifelong trauma set in the child's mind and heart of being abandoned. It just fuels the feelings of insecurity and neglect already present in Kalpi and reinforces the fact that Kamla never saw Kalpi as her daughter. No mother would sacrifice their own child's life for another and Kamla actions proved it. She saved Pakhi; her daughter.

Edited by Jaz_ - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
#43

I don't like kamala. .😡 She is so selfish. ..she want kalpi achieve her ek mutthi asaman..This kamala dream ...but she never think about kalpi , never give her love. .n never think about kalpi dream. ..she only want kalpi fullfill her dream. ..but give all love n support 2 pakhi. ...who mother do that her own child. ..n one do that...but this kamala ko mahan banana tha. ..🤢

kalpi ko swimming bi nahi atithi ...firbi kamala ne kalpi ko nahi pakhi ko bachaya. ..n say that she want kalpi become a strong. .
But agar kalpi dub jati to o kese strong banti. ..brainless women. ..strong benaneke liye pehale use swimming ani chahiye. .tabi to o strong banegi. ...agar kalpi ko vithal ne nahi bachaya hota to o Mar jati. .n tera dream adhere reh jata. ..

Or jab raghav ne kaha o kalpi se pyar karta hai to kamala say pakhi raghav se pyar karti hai...dumb kamala. ..not even think our own daughter ...kamala ko mandir Jane ki koi jarurat nahi thi. ...bcz Ragna love eachother. ..to pakhi bich me aye hai. ..

Kamala ne sirf kalpi ko sacrifice karne ko kaha. ..but not tech pakhi ki har chiz jo use pand hai o use hame nahi mil sakati hai..
Kamala ne hamesha pakhi ki jidd puri ki ..that's y she is like this..n kalpi ke sath time bhi spend nahi kiya...
I heat her...😡
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Posted: 10 years ago
#44
as person kamla may be a selfless but as mother I don't no.
b'coz I heard a mother always feels her children's pain whether she is around or not but in kamla's case she did feel the pain but not kalpi 's or pakya's pain instead she always felt pakhi's pain only.
she never hesitated to give kalpi's happiness to pakhi.
I always wondered how can a mother do this.
I agree she raised pakhi as her own daughter but how can a mother be so blind in one child's love that she forgets her own children's.
Edited by Gouri_Joshi - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
#45
As a human being she is good who want to help everyone...but as a mother she is totally failed who was always failed to understand her children who was always standing opposite side whwnever her children want her by der side...she always choose pakhi over kalpi just coz she think she is very strong... It's not mother nature...even she was trying to gv her daughter's only happiness his raghav to pakhi...she observed pakhis one sided love but anable to see kalpi's love for raghav...
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Posted: 10 years ago
#46
Wow Fuzz! Your post actually made me ponder over a character I never spent much time on... Kamala 😆 I never ever thought to think from her perspective as I always thought she was a selfish woman... To me anybody who shows , I emphasise 'shows' more love towards another child than to our real children is selfish...and cruel... She may had equal if not more love for Kalpi in her heart but she sure had a funny way of showing it...


Initially I think it was sympathy towards Pakhi as a child who was neglected by her own mother but as she started caring for her , she forgot her own daughter who idolised her , who craved for her love ... Pakhi who had Kamala's undivided attention and all the riches in the world turned out to be a selfish woman who would go to any lengths to get what she has laid her eyes on... whereas Kalpi grew up without a mother and almost no family ( in the boarding school years) but still with lots of family values and love and respect towards others... There was no part Kamala played in her upbringing. ... and I believe people just don't grow up to be like their parents... they shape up the way they are according to the values we instill in them...


Thus Pakhi is the mirror image of Kamala ... So is she right? She must have been a selfless woman, always willing to put other's needs before hers and even bringing up the master's daughter and breastfeeding her whereas her own daughter had to survive with powder milk. ... She may have been a boon to others but she has failed terribly as a mother...



Coming to the drowning incident, I think she can never be forgiven... Agreed, you are answerable to your master for their kid but when some tragedy occurs, our first instinct would be to save our child... As a mom, I can assure you that... Everyone thinks of their children first... it's not selfishness, it's human nature... At that time you will not be in a right mind to think that let your child learn how to survive. ... it's something we do when they are in a playground or when we need them to take a step towards future... but never at the cost of their life... Maybe she was sure that Vithal would save her but imagine the daughter's shock when your mom rushes to rescue the other kid and not you...
It's something really heavy to have in your heart when you are a ten year old ...
Edited by Kiaraah - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
#47
Kamla is selfish women...yes she helps others but on her own terms...she always thought wat she is dng is right n all should accept her decision specially kalpi n her fly ... she always took her fly for granted...poor jadhav's hav always suffered coz of her mahaanta
Kamla as a mother is a failure after dat drowning epi my respect towards d character started loosing...she never once thought abt kalpi n her feelings always burden kalpi wit her dream...has she ever thought abt kalpi's dream n final stroke was wen she broke ragna engagement for her pakhi baby
Kamla character is a total failure as women n a mother too

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Posted: 10 years ago
#48
Kamala was a naive helpful person. As a housewife her world was her home, husband & sin Pakya. Being the wife of leader , she became the leader of the women of the chawl. Once she took up her job at Kapoors things changed. She was still naive. Her gratitude towards them for releasing Vithal from jail was the driving force of her submissiveness to them. She also felt sorry for Pakhi as she was not given attention by her own mother. Everything made her to love Pakhi a lot. Initially Kalpi never felt sad that she shared her mother with Palhi. She was anyway sharing her with Pakya. It was same for her. But the pen incident made things go wrong. Being a worker she had to go by Pakhi's wish. But next day she corrected it. After leaving the job Kamala was not able to sit away from Pakhi. She never thought abt her kids. Thats where things started to go wrong. Kalpi feeling insecure of her mothers love. She dreamt about Kalpi being a memsab. Good one. But love & affection are two things needed for a relationship. Not just dreams & push towards it
Had Kamala explained things to Kalpi she would have been the best mother to her.
In raising Pakhi she should have taught her the right & wrong. Not just aim & get it by hook or crook. She just became a Nanny for Pakhi & not her mother. Pakhi's selfishness came in her blood.
Kamala was selfish that her daugjter Kalpi make her dream come true. She wanted Kalpi to understand her.
Kamala is selfless to give her love & attention to Pakhi. She became selfish when all she wanted is Pakhi's wish come true.
Drowning incident, kamala's action can never be justified. She terribly failed as a mother to both. Kalpi lost her mother there. Pakhi's posessiveness increased there..

Kamala is a good person at heart but a teribble failure as a mother.

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