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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Punjabdikuri

This is one of the best analysis I have read. This is one of the reasons why almost all the serials die after 150-200 episodes. All the serials spend first 40-50 episodes developing the characters. Then add the love/ hate track. Then for next 100 episodes we see
The relationship blooming and after that there is THE TWIST around 180th episode. After that everything changes the characters the plot and most important no direction. The writers directors editors actors heck even the spot boys start acting clueless.
My only question is what is the purpose of twist if it cannot be executed properly.?

Thank you for your appreciation. 😊
They know how to start but don't know how to maintain the same creativity and quality. I wonder how the creatives and writers even work. I would expect them to have a clear idea of the concept, tracks (how each bleeds into next track or plot flow), character developments and so on in the beginning itself. Why all this mess now. It is clear that they haven't planned, something surprising for an experienced team. Or perhaps they can't handle their cast?
They are simply not involved in their work and characters as we fans are. I am an artist myself though not of the same field. I always want my work to be perfect; in technique, creativity and most importantly expression. I obsess over every fine detail. They must be like I envisioned or better. Don't all artists want to create something beautiful, share our vision or message, evoke emotions, and want others to love and enjoy our work as we do. Here, they don't care that their fans are repulsed with their characters and ideas.
Not only artists, I expect anyone to be involved in their profession, to want to perform their best, come out with their best work. Where is that love and commitment?
Edited by Syama_Luna - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#22

Originally posted by: Syama_Luna


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<font color="#333333" size="2" face="Comic Sans MS, Times, serif">Thank you for your appreciation. 😊</font>


<font color="#333333" size="2" face="Comic Sans MS, Times, serif">They know how to start but don't know how to maintain the same creativity and quality.I wonder how the creatives and writers even work. I would expect them to have a clear idea of the concept, tracks (how each bleeds into next track or plot flow), character developments and so on in the beginning itself. Why all this mess now. It is clear that they haven't planned, something surprising for an experienced team. Or perhaps they can't handle their cast? </font>



<font color="#333333" size="2" face="Comic Sans MS, Times, serif">They are simply not involved in their work and characters as we fans are. I am an artist myself though not of the same field.I always want my work to be perfect; in technique, creativityand most importantlyexpression.I obsess over every fine detail. They must be like I envisioned or better. Don't all artists want to create something beautiful, share our vision or message, evoke emotions, andwant others to love and enjoy our work as we do. Here, they don't care that their fans are repulsed with their characters and ideas.</font>


<font color="#333333" size="2" face="Comic Sans MS, Times, serif">Not only artists, I expect anyone to be involved in their profession, to want to perform their best, come out with their best work. Where is that love and commitment?</font>

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: nandinidavid96

This is the best analysis I have read in the recent past 👏

P.S. Why don't you tweet this post to CV's and cast ..🥱

Thank you, I tried my best to touch on every aspect and characters. I left Kalpi out because she was consistent for the most part. I find her intention unclear in the Thursday episode, would like to wait and see what are they up to with her character...Yes I did tweet it to MG and Ashna

Originally posted by: _innocent_

Fantastic post and am glad you opted to make a post instead of posting it as a reply! You're echoed my feelings!! You definitely should tweet this to those airhead makers, in the hope their egos are put aside to enable a fluent storyline to develop.

Thank you Jules. Yea, I had so much to share, so I thought best to make a separate topic.. I did tweet this to them. I doubt it will have much effect though. They might get more defensive. 😆
They are too thick skulled and think themselves superior to us. They know best, they are the creatives, a name in their industry and we are foolish fans who only know how to talk. Am sure they can only think along this line...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: KyaRe...

Luna great write up and totally agree 😃 What I feel is that PH had a great concept and failed to execute it CVs seem to be rushing from one track to another to stay afloat in TRP chart IMHO.


What they didn't fathom was RagNa's popularity and how to mould the story keeping the integrity of character, while still cashing on the couple's chemistry to keep us hooked. Instead they went the clichd route saying if RagNa unite there is no story ahead 🥱

And about why Paakhi had to be shoved on us with the latest twist was coz if not then kamala would have any screen space if RagNa had united? The power of yesterday's actor and the weight of 'Singh' surname has contributed allot for the show's downfall 🥱 🥱 🥱

Thank you KyaRe. 😊
What was their concept really? From what I gather, in the beginning of the show; Kam..la bai and her dreams - threesome (fight for the great Kam..la ma's love) - Kal_Ki life entwining like implied by priest (pathetic they chose a love triangle for this). After the last leap, we see Raghav's revenge will be included. Not even one of the above was properly treated. By just writing it down like I did, you can draw out the story for each aspect and weave them into the plot. Even RAGNA was rushed. For what? Raa..khi wedding and Kam..la initiation into Godhood? It definitely isn't for revenge.
The biggest downfall is the plot revolving around Kam..la, a useless character that has no scope for development since she cannot be wrong. There is NO story to tell about Kamla. She should be a supporting character at best. It is disappointing that they choose to throw the diamond they had for the sake of this one lady. Just ridiculous! 😒 Why don't these people just grow up! What's this nonsense, forming cliques. EMA should come first. Alas, they have no integrity, ethics and professionalism.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: mandu


@syama_luna

Thank you so much for expanding your post here...
you have stated everything most brilliantly and coherently.

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Thank YOU mandu.
I was always thinking about the things you touched on.
It was your post that helped me organize my thoughts better.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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A very well-written post Syama & awesome replies too. I feel that there is no story left in EMA now. The show has become a promotional stunt wherein the CV's are just trying to promote few actors.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Barunash

they had beautiful storyline and very diffrent from what i saw a kamwali bai beti wanting toownn a building on herown so she gets to fulfill her aayi dream to get her undivided attention and male lead supporting her in the mission
good concept tak hi baat reh gayi they introduced that concept but when time came to take the story forward they fell on their face obivious reasons uncreativity off screen partiality
when i first heard shirni is not playing negative character i knew the show will take diff turn then what was shown s baby pakhi was not full on positive character
infact if shirni had brains this character could hv done wonders coz she would get to play so many shades and she could prove her talent but i dont think there is muchdiff in her offscreen and onscreen character
shilpa mohit diya tony need to wake up and see its ragna who bought [opularity and that is the truth whatever they its always the leads and then story and track that get the credit for trp since they are hellbent on making pakhi kamla vithal to become leads they will get answr with falling ratings
people connevted with kalpi pain and her and raghav story was unique along wirth chemistry and talent the leads shared
what they want us sto see a limp weak characterless hero and and heroin with no self respect forget the peasize brain with delusion and add kamla bhashaan nonstop pravachan and her saree clad husband ...sorry it does not interset me
i dont even want to go into revenge track its like most childish or silliest track ever i hv seen on screenso how can we be interested ?

I had an apprehension too when I heard about Shirni not wanting to do negative role. It is surprising like you said since I usually hear actors wanting to do negative or heavy roles as there's more scope. I guess she feels she wont be able to pull it off. She might be right too if her acting as Paa..khi is any indication. It is PH fault for casting her if they planned to turn Paa..khi negative but I don't think they really thought about it. Lol. The revenge is on RAGNA and us fans...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Thank you for your appreciation Nethra07 , bhartii , dhanuli
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: smileysmile

Bingo. You have explained precisely. The team is thinking we are reacting this way because of Ragna separation. But in fact we all were dreading separation and even subconsciously expecting this. But what they have done is - brutal assassination of some characters and given a story line which is difficult to relate and understand.

Thank you, This is another thing that angers me; they're screwing with fans heads. The confusing characterization, twitter drama, promo timing n such. It is disgusting offscreen too. Pathetic really. I don't see a story anymore, but a chaos, going to turn into debris very soon if they keep at it like this.
Edited by Syama_Luna - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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This thread needs to stay on page 1 😊

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