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Posted: 13 years ago
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Yeah!! Thats true...even i felt the same...
At the beginning only maanvi proved it that she loves her sister more than her sister does for her!!
"sirf aapki parva hai mujhe" - this is what i heard from maanvi when jeevika was ready to marry viren...where maanvi had insisted her to marry Dr. Manan...
But when she came to know that viren is good and takes care of her DI, she was one of the happiest persons in the world...
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Jeevika has viren to share ALL her feelings...but what about Maanvi?? No one knows about her illness not even jeevika... If maanvi is aware of her illness [i think she is!] u guys think how much she must be suffering mentally?? But still she wants liveliness around her..she wants to enjoy her life to the most as she knows she has only some days left to...(i don't want to tell the word as i don't want her to...nd i can't see her crying) She has no one to share her feelings...i know there are beeji, dabboo, chachu, chachi nd badi beeji...but no one can replace jeevika in her life right??

I love maanvi's character a lot :)
simply a bow to Nia Sharma...
She jst rockzzz
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Finally I get to reply to this!
As I said, I respect your opinion but cannot agree with it at all.

I believe that both the sisters love each other equally, they just have different ways of expressing their love for each other. Where on one hand Manvi is much more vocal and loud about the expression of her love, Jeevika has a subtle way of expressing it. Her love is like a mother's love. I don't know about your mum but my mother has never been vocal about her love for me or my younger sister, I mean never. Does that mean she doesn't love us enough? No, she loves us more than we can imagine, a thousand times more than we love her and her actions say all that,she just never says it out loud- she lets her actions speak for her, just like Jeevika. You said it in your post yourself- Actions speak louder than words. If you know actions speak louder than words then you must have noticed how Jeevika's little actions say a lot about her love for Manvi. I think that's where the problem lies, as Manvi's love is much more loud and vocal- it's visible to everyone but to understand Jeevika's love, we need to observe carefully and interpret but may be not everyone does that? You say for Jeevika, Manvi is not her whole world but just a part of that world. Really? If that was the case then why would she mention and think about Manvi again and again on her first outing with Viren? She was on a mini-date for God's sake, Viren was trying to be all romantic and Jeevika, all she thought about was how Manu would love the place, the temple etc. I know for a fact I wouldn't have done that if I were in her place. If that was the case then why would Jeevika, who knows how Swamini is, forget all about her manners and Swamini as soon as she sees Manvi's name flashing on her phone in that scene where Swamini was teaching her the rules? She didn't think twice before picking up the phone- she didn't give Swamini a single glance, she didn't notice the obvious displeasure on Swamini's face- all I could see in that moment was Jeevika's excitement- did you not see that spark in her eyes when she saw Manvi's name? That little moment said a lot. If Manvi didn't mean the world to Jeevika then why would Viren and Virat think that Manvi is the only special present that could bring a huge smile to Jeevika's face? If Manvi wasn't everything for Jeevika then why would Jeevika, the girl who has the utmost respect for Beeji stand up against her for Manvi? From your post I get the impression that even though you have acknowledged these two scenes, you have dismissed their importance quite easily. But before dismissing it like that, we need to realise what Jeevika's personality is like- she respects and obeys her elders no matter what, she is the last person who would want to argue with beeji, let alone talk in an angry tone but for Manvi she did that- twice and Jeevika is not like that! She would try and solve unpleasantness without any arguments with anyone, she is someone whom we cannot expect to talk back to beeji or any other person but she did for Manvi. Jeevika is a very patient person, unlike Manvi, but when Jeevika's tolerance limit is crossed, she would stand up and say what she feels is right. The wedding scene where she nearly gave out to beeji for even thinking of such an absurd thing like keeping Manvi away from her showed that. The confidence, the pain, the hurt and the disgust in her tone was well visible and when she said I wouldn't marry without Manvi, even if that means I'll have to stay at home unmarried all my life, that said a lot. It's quite unfair to dismiss these scenes now, isn't it? :) If you noticed, Manvi was the first person Jeevika rang after her first night in Vadhera house. If Jeevika loves everyone equally ( as you claim) then why did she not consider ringing beeji, chachu, chachi, dabbu? The first person on her mind was Manvi.

Another thing with Jeevika, realisation takes a long time to surface for her. When she was getting married, all Manvi and Jeevika thought and said was how will Manvi live without Jeevika. Jeevika kept saying and wondering how will Manvi manage, how will she cope etc. but it was only when Viren asked her how will she say the final goodbye to Manvi that Jeevika realised how her life would be difficult without Manvi. Same is happening now. She is aware of Manvi and Manvi's needs but is quite unaware of herself. She puts Manvi before herself, in a way. Jeevika said goodbye to everyone but Manvi- that shows Jeevika doesn't want to let go of Manvi, she wants to hold onto her forever. If her love was equal then why was Jeevika able to say goodbye to the rest of the family but not Manvi? Her love for Manvi is much greater than you make it out to be m'dear. :)

As for the cake scene, I haven't yet watched that SBS segment but as far as I have read, there was hesitation and the fact that she finally decided to feed Viren first does not in any way show acceptance of letting go of Manvi, it rather shows the sensibility of Jeevika and the understanding between the two sisters. :)

Out of the two sisters, one has to be much more mature and sensible. Jeevika being the older one realizes her responsibilities and has the tough job of balancing everything out but her priority was, is and will always be Manvi- you just need to observe it more carefully. :) She has not let go of Manvi and never will, how could anyone think about such a thing is beyond me.

I personally, absolutely hate to compare the love of the two sisters- it's quite an absurd thing to do in my opinion, just like shootingstar.xx said, even I don't believe that love should be measured. Both the sisters love each other truly, immensely and equally and I find it rather bizarre when their love is compared- love is not something that should be compared, methinks. :]

Sometimes, love needs to be understood rather than said. Even though I promised myself that if in future anyone questions Jeevika's love for Manvi I wouldn't try to reason and convince, I still commented here lol because I get absolutely worked up when I see their love being questioned. I am quite sure that even after this post, not many people would change their view but I had to put it out. I guess you guys will only realise what Manvi means to Jeevika once Jeevika turns vocal about her love? Jeevika has her own subtle, unique way of expressing her love and once you realise that, you'll know what Manvi means to Jeevika. I feel for Jeevika when her love is questioned like this.

Even though your post didn't offend me, there were two things that irked me quite a bit (😳 :P)-

1) "The worst thing is holding on to someone who doesn't want to be held on to"

I don't know what gave you the impression that Jeevika "doesn't want to be held on to" (because it is clearly wrong, imo) but this just baffled me. How can people even think like this about Jeevika is beyond me. If you watch her scenes even a teeny bit, at least this much is clear that she doesn't want to let go and let go of. 😳

2) I questioned whether Jeevika is actually worth her love..

Once again, no comments as I am shocked, surprised, confused, angry and everything at the same time at this statement of yours. I guess our views differ completely. 😳


I absolutely agree with shootingstar. xx here- " Also, I feel the reason that Jeevika has not felt the way Maanvi has after the wedding is because Jeevika is NOT letting go. Maanvi feels like she has too.
I don't think Jeevika can even go a day without calling her.
I think everyone should allow this bond between the sisters to grow :) there's a lot more to see."

Ya, I better stop now. This turned out to be so big unintentionally. I hope this cleared a few things for people though and I didn't waste my time writing all this. 😳
I hope I didn't offend anyone in my post, I didn't intend to. :)
Edited by kasharti1 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#23

Originally posted by: kasharti1

Finally I get to reply to this!
As I said, I respect your opinion but cannot agree with it at all.

I believe that both the sisters love each other equally, they just have different ways of expressing their love for each other. Where on one hand Manvi is much more vocal and loud about the expression of her love, Jeevika has a subtle way of expressing it. Her love is like a mother's love. I don't know about your mum but my mother has never been vocal about her love for me or my younger sister, I mean never. Does that mean she doesn't love us enough? No, she loves us more than we can imagine, a thousand times more than we love her and her actions say all that,she just never says it out loud- she lets her actions speak for her, just like Jeevika. You said it in your post yourself- Actions speak louder than words. If you know actions speak louder than words then you must have noticed how Jeevika's little actions say a lot about her love for Manvi. I think that's where the problem lies, as Manvi's love is much more loud and vocal- it's visible to everyone but to understand Jeevika's love, we need to observe carefully and interpret but may be not everyone does that? You say for Jeevika, Manvi is not her whole world but just a part of that world. Really? If that was the case then why would she mention and think about Manvi again and again on her first outing with Viren? She was on a mini-date for God's sake, Viren was trying to be all romantic and Jeevika, all she thought about was how Manu would love the place, the temple etc. I know for a fact I wouldn't have done that if I were in her place. If that was the case then why would Jeevika, who knows how Swamini is, forget all about her manners and Swamini as soon as she sees Manvi's name flashing on her phone in that scene where Swamini was teaching her the rules? She didn't think twice before picking up the phone- she didn't give Swamini a single glance, she didn't notice the obvious displeasure on Swamini's face- all I could see in that moment was Jeevika's excitement- did you not see that spark in her eyes when she saw Manvi's name? That little moment said a lot. If Manvi didn't mean the world to Jeevika then why would Viren and Virat think that Manvi is the only special present that could bring a huge smile to Jeevika's face? If Manvi wasn't everything for Jeevika then why would Jeevika, the girl who has the utmost respect for Beeji stand up against her for Manvi? From your post I get the impression that even though you have acknowledged these two scenes, you have dismissed their importance quite easily. But before dismissing it like that, we need to realise what Jeevika's personality is like- she respects and obeys her elders no matter what, she is the last person who would want to argue with beeji, let alone talk in an angry tone but for Manvi she did that- twice and Jeevika is not like that! She would try and solve unpleasantness without any arguments with anyone, she is someone whom we cannot expect to talk back to beeji or any other person but she did for Manvi. Jeevika is a very patient person, unlike Manvi, but when Jeevika's tolerance limit is crossed, she would stand up and say what she feels is right. The wedding scene where she nearly gave out to beeji for even thinking of such an absurd thing like keeping Manvi away from her showed that. The confidence, the pain, the hurt and the disgust in her tone was well visible and when she said I wouldn't marry without Manvi, even if that means I'll have to stay at home unmarried all my life, that said a lot. It's quite unfair to dismiss these scenes now, isn't it? :) If you noticed, Manvi was the first person Jeevika rang after her first night in Vadhera house. If Jeevika loves everyone equally ( as you claim) then why did she not consider ringing beeji, chachu, chachi, dabbu? The first person on her mind was Manvi.

Another thing with Jeevika, realisation takes a long time to surface for her. When she was getting married, all Manvi and Jeevika thought and said was how will Manvi live without Jeevika. Jeevika kept saying and wondering how will Manvi manage, how will she cope etc. but it was only when Viren asked her how will she say the final goodbye to Manvi that Jeevika realised how her life would be difficult without Manvi. Same is happening now. She is aware of Manvi and Manvi's needs but is quite unaware of herself. She puts Manvi before herself, in a way. Jeevika said goodbye to everyone but Manvi- that shows Jeevika doesn't want to let go of Manvi, she wants to hold onto her forever. If her love was equal then why was Jeevika able to say goodbye to the rest of the family but not Manvi? Her love for Manvi is much greater than you make it out to be m'dear. :)

As for the cake scene, I haven't yet watched that SBS segment but as far as I have read, there was hesitation and the fact that she finally decided to feed Viren first does not in any way show acceptance of letting go of Manvi, it rather shows the sensibility of Jeevika and the understanding between the two sisters. :)

Out of the two sisters, one has to be much more mature and sensible. Jeevika being the older one realizes her responsibilities and has the tough job of balancing everything out but her priority was, is and will always be Manvi- you just need to observe it more carefully. :) She has not let go of Manvi and never will, how could anyone think about such a thing is beyond me.

I personally, absolutely hate to compare the love of the two sisters- it's quite an absurd thing to do in my opinion, just like shootingstar.xx said, even I don't believe that love should be measured. Both the sisters love each other truly, immensely and equally and I find it rather bizarre when their love is compared- love is not something that should be compared, methinks. :]

Sometimes, love needs to be understood rather than said. Even though I promised myself that if in future anyone questions Jeevika's love for Manvi I wouldn't try to reason and convince, I still commented here lol because I get absolutely worked up when I see their love being questioned. I am quite sure that even after this post, not many people would change their view but I had to put it out. I guess you guys will only realise what Manvi means to Jeevika once Jeevika turns vocal about her love? Jeevika has her own subtle, unique way of expressing her love and once you realise that, you'll know what Manvi means to Jeevika. I feel for Jeevika when her love is questioned like this.

Even though your post didn't offend me, there were two things that irked me quite a bit (😳 :P)-

1) "The worst thing is holding on to someone who doesn't want to be held on to"

I don't know what gave you the impression that Jeevika "doesn't want to be held on to" (because it is clearly wrong, imo) but this just baffled me. How can people even think like this about Jeevika is beyond me. If you watch her scenes even a teeny bit, at least this much is clear that she doesn't want to let go and let go of. 😳

2) I questioned whether Jeevika is actually worth her love..

Once again, no comments as I am shocked, surprised, confused, angry and everything at the same time at this statement of yours. I guess our views differ completely. 😳


I absolutely agree with shootingstar. xx here- " Also, I feel the reason that Jeevika has not felt the way Maanvi has after the wedding is because Jeevika is NOT letting go. Maanvi feels like she has too.
I don't think Jeevika can even go a day without calling her.
I think everyone should allow this bond between the sisters to grow :) there's a lot more to see."

Ya, I better stop now. This turned out to be so big unintentionally. I hope this cleared a few things for people though and I didn't waste my time writing all this. 😳
I hope I didn't offend anyone in my post, I didn't intend to. :)


This was such an amazing post 👏 and I bolded the parts I thought you tackled well ...

I can understand why you would get so worked up about this topic .. I guess, I myself am very attached to the bond of these sisters now that this would bother me too.

Guys, I know this is a long post .. but it's definetly worth reading ... especially to those who think that Maanvi loves Jeevika more =/
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Kan_Arshi

Yeah!! Thats true...even i felt the same...
At the beginning only maanvi proved it that she loves her sister more than her sister does for her!!
"sirf aapki parva hai mujhe" - this is what i heard from maanvi when jeevika was ready to marry viren...where maanvi had insisted her to marry Dr. Manan...
But when she came to know that viren is good and takes care of her DI, she was one of the happiest persons in the world...
*
Jeevika has viren to share ALL her feelings...but what about Maanvi?? No one knows about her illness not even jeevika... If maanvi is aware of her illness [i think she is!] u guys think how much she must be suffering mentally?? But still she wants liveliness around her..she wants to enjoy her life to the most as she knows she has only some days left to...(i don't want to tell the word as i don't want her to...nd i can't see her crying) She has no one to share her feelings...i know there are beeji, dabboo, chachu, chachi nd badi beeji...but no one can replace jeevika in her life right??

I love maanvi's character a lot :)
simply a bow to Nia Sharma...
She jst rockzzz


@bold you REALLY think she's gonna share all her feelings with Viren? 😲 Honestly, so far from what they've shown between Viren and Jeevika, that is that Jeevika is still slowly trying to open up to Viren. She feels that NO ONE can replace Maanvi as was shown during her suhaag raat and her conversation with Virat.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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@kasharti1, shootingstar.xx
amazing posts guys...👏👏

no offence to anyone but plz people give sometime for this bond between the sis to grow...😊
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Posted: 13 years ago
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i am just feeling sad at the fact that when maanvi will cum face 2 face with reality how will she feel...itt's just so sad...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: shootingstar.xx


This was such an amazing post 👏 and I bolded the parts I thought you tackled well ...

I can understand why you would get so worked up about this topic .. I guess, I myself am very attached to the bond of these sisters now that this would bother me too.

Guys, I know this is a long post .. but it's definetly worth reading ... especially to those who think that Maanvi loves Jeevika more =/


Thank you. :)
Exactly, I'm very much attached to them and it kind of saddens me to see all this.

Thanks again. :)
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I can't like some of the posts here for some reason but even I've become really attached to JM (isn't it obvious?). Their story really is a hatke love story of two sisters and in a short amount of time we have become so attached to their bond that even a fans of the romantic couples would agree that JM are made for each others togetherness. Jeevika in her own subtle way is as needy of Manvi as the latter is!
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@mushiroxx:- Thank you. :)


As for people saying that Jeevika has Viren to share all her feelings with. Really now? First of all, Viren has JUST entered Jeevika's life, she was in the same position before as Manvi is in now- and guess what? Along with a sister, Jeevika has to be Manvi's mother and father as well, Jeevika had to, in a way, mature at a very young age and be Manvi's support and be there for her whenever Manvi needed Jeevika. I'm not here to compare the two sisters because that's pathetic but when I read people saying Jeevika has Viren I was like "really now? Wth?". As shootingstar.xx said, Jeevika is still slowly opening up to Viren, besides, Viren said it himself- "Manvi ki jagah koi nahi le sakta"- that's what the truth is- that's what Jeevika feels. Viren has entered Jeevika's life recently just like virat will enter Manvi's life in near future.

I fail to understand why Jeevika is viewed in such a way by some people. :S

For me, both JM are unique- their bond is special and very close to my heart! <3

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Posted: 13 years ago
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^Agree and to be honest no-one not even Viren really has seen the side to Jeevika which Maanvi has. Actually Manvi IS that side to Jeevika where she talks, teases and basically has a lot of fun. Someone else had said that MJ live within each other. Manvi's effect on Jeevika is innate...something which she doesn't realize herself. How her eyes seek Manvi, how her talks always go back to Manvi, how when it comes to Manvi she forgets her surroundings. She will bring her name up in a romantic date with Viren, she will forget that someone like Swamini is needing her undivided attention. When Jeevika has to 'think', she will try to balance but impulsively her balance is totally skewed towards Manvi.

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