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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: rev4eva

Ayesha, you said it all and this is definately not non-sense. Loved your POV of the episode yesterday. 😊

Thanks a lot for liking my blabbering! Btw...what do I call you?? 😳

The sangeet ceremony saw an unpleasant end...Manvi's attempt to cheer everyone and make the evening a fun filled and happy one, backfired. Unintentionally, she did something, which she didn't realize could have such repercussions. I'm not going in the details of what Manvi did was right or wrong...coz we have different view points on it...and i don't wanna start an argument here. Also, that's something of the past now...so, no point in dwelling on it now.

-Agreed no point on dwelling over the past incident.

LOL..everyone's playing smart...not bad! 😆

The reason i'm mentioning this is...this mistake from the girl changed the entire scenario of the wedding...not just for herself...but for everyone involved in the wedding, esp. each member of her own family.

Swamini asked Beeji to keep Manvi away from the wedding...and Beeji had no other option, but to adhere to this...after all, it was what one of the most important person's in Jeevika's in-laws wanted. So, if i may put it like this...Swamini, without being harsh, without being impoilte...conveyed her DECISION to Beeji, to keep Manvi away from her sister's wedding.

- I recall that Swamini told BG to keep Manvi away from the Vandera family as much as possible but I don't think she meant it by forbidding Manvi from attending the wedding. I maybe wrong but from her reaction yesterday when BG said Manvi must be with Jeevika, she was not happy but definitely not angry with Manvi's presence there. She just hopes that Manvi doesn't cause any blunder during the wedding that will tarnish her family reputation as well as Jeevika's family reputation. I think Vishid also said something similar as well. The layers in her character may make all of us perceive her as negative but I somehow feel that she is not that bad after all. Leave it to time to prove me wrong or right.

Arey...i've been a strong supporter of Swamini...esp. after whatever happened at the sangeet..and even before that. In this particular post..i haven't said that who is right and who is wrong...i just stated my POV abt the decisions that these ladies made after that ceremony. Since the beginning of the show...in all my posts..i have tried to explain Swamini's stance...coz I don't think she's wrong. Yes, like u said..her characters has layers...and that's the MAIN reason, why i like this woman 😳

Yeah...Vishid said the same thing. I haven't been able to watch that part again...but in a way, if Swamini wants Manvi to stay away from her n the Vadera's...she's restricting her presence at the wedding to a large extent. How can anyone attend one's sibling's wedding like an outsider?? So...in one way or the other...Manvi's presence at J's wedding becomes a concern. Confused you...or u get my point? 😉😆
Manvi had made a huge blunder and there was no way Beeji could justify it and defend the young girl. So, she broke the news to Mannu, with a heavy heart...that she cannot attend her sister's wedding. Beeji's DECISION was clear...Manvi had to stay away from the wedding; if she wants to see Jeevika happy...if she doesn't want any further hitch in the wedding...and if she wants all the remaining functions to go on smoothly. An extremely harsh punishment for Manvi...the worst she could ever get...but if her staying away could bring happiness for Jeevika...if it ensures that everything would go smoothly...and if it means no problems in any of the functions...then heck, she'd not attend the wedding at any cost. This was Manvi's DECISION! She can bear this pain herself...but cannot even imagine being the reason for her sister's heart break, whom she knows loves Viren dearly, and has started dreaming of a blissful life with him. Her own pain, her grief, her loneliness is nothing as compared to her sister's happiness...a sister who means the world to her!

So, the chain of decisions keeps on getting longer n longer...and all these are related to one person's happiness..and that is, Jeevika! But do they even realize what implications will these decisions have on her??

- Totally agree with you here.

Swamini...ok, i won't say much about her...coz she is not directly linked to Jeevika yet. Yes, she wants her happiness...but the reason she doesn't want Manvi to attend the wedding is...she doesn't want a repeat of what all happened on the sangeet ceremony. She is concerned not just for Viren, Jeevika...but also cannot see anyone passing comments on her family...and also on Jeevika's family. Also...as per her...its good for Jeevika, if Manvi stays away from the wedding...coz this would mean no blunders from her...and no tears and worry for Jeevika that come with Manvi's such immature acts. Swamini is very clear in her mind...like she said today..."shadows are not permanent...they disappear as the sun sets..." but she didn't realize that these shadows, which disappear as darkness grows...reappear with the next dawn. Also, Manvi is not Jeevika's shadow...she is a part of her existence...a part without which she cannot live! So, not a very good decision by Swamini to keep Manvi out of the wedding picture.

- Well I m still waiting for them to reveal why Vanshika always gives in to Swamini when it comes to Viren. There must be some strong reason behind, it is indeed painful to see every time Vanshika backs off and allow Swamini. Will there be a point where Vanshika will stand out for her rights on Viren. Swamini definitely under estimated the relationship between Manvi-Jeevika. She is in for a shock soon as Manvi is not Jeevika's shadow but her soul. I always perceived the sisters as Yin & Yang. They are inseparable and incomplete without each other. They compliment each other in all ways although they are different in most ways.

I really am looking forward to the rapport these three women in Viren's life share. Like i said...i'd want to see more of Viren-Vanshika...but i defo love the bond Viren shares with Swamini.

Coming to Beeji...for the first time, i found her a bit unreasonable today. Does she really think that... she can cover up for Manvi's absence...that Madan, Pinky, Dabbu will not look for her...that Jeevika's in-laws will not ask about her...and that Viren will not notice her not being there?? Most important of all...doesn't she know that Jeevika will not go ahead for ANY of the rituals without her sister being on her side?? Beeji has stopped Manvi from coming to the wedding for Jeevika's sake na...does she really think that if Manvi is not there...Jeevika will not notice it, will not try to find her, will not go crazy thinking about her...and will happily get married?? Wrong decision, Beeji...you clearly faltered here.

- BG was in fixed situation and her only goal is to ensure that Jeevika gets married without any obstacle. Significance of a person can only be felt when they are not around, the same goes to Manvi. She thought no one will actually look for Manvi except for Jeevika and really hoped she could distract Jeevika with the wedding buzz and rasams but she is soon to realize that it is gonna backfire big time. Anyways BG was under lots of pressure to take such a decision and elder's decision may not be right all the time.

True...Beeji did all this for both the sisters...but like u said, sometimes decisions of experienced n wise people also backfire.

Manvi...yes, she was forced to stay away...but somewhere, she herself surrendered...coz she doesn't want ANYTHING to go wrong in her sister's wedding. She can't even let her own self come b/w her sister's happiness...and hence, for the first time, probably...she gave up...and decided to adhere to what Beeji said. Didn't she also realize what it would be for Jeevika, not to have sister with her on the most special day of her life?? She really thinks that Jeevika will not care for Mannu...and will go ahead and perform all the rituals?? Jeevika...would just forget her sister now...coz she's getting married...and her life's gonna change...and thus, it won't matter to her if Manvi is not there?? Again...totally miscalculated move by Manvi...she didn't go to attend the wedding so that nothing goes wrong...but this is the biggest wrong itself...and Jeevika's lines in the precap are a proof of that!

- Manvi would do anything for her sister's happiness including even to the verge of not going for her sister's wedding. Manvi failed to realize that Jeevika might also take a drastic move for Manvi's happiness as well. Loved Jeevika during the precap.

Yes, eveyone is doing everything for Jeevika n her happiness...but they're not thinking that what they are doing is bound to give her more worry.

Coming to Jeevika...the most special day of her life...she's getting married to her dream man...everything looks beautiful...there is love, care, fear, apprehensions...and with all these emotions, she is looking forward to this new phase of her life. But without her knowledge...the decisions that have been taken for HER sake...for the sake of HER happiness...when she will get to know of them...all these emotions would come crushing down...and sadly, no one realized about this. To cater to these...she will take a DECISION herself...and that is...if her sister is not there...how can she possible get married?? Right or wrong...its another aspect...but the fact remains...whatever was being done for her happiness...ended up in giving her nothing else but tears...of pain, sorrow, grief.

- Well coming to Jeevika, man she was awesome today. It was like a fairytale wedding that any girl would dream for and will be in cloud 9 but Jeevika was not enjoying a single moment of it. She was only worried & concerned about Manvi all the time. She indeed proved her words that Manvi is her athma. Definitely not what a bride should go thru on her wedding day. The precap was awesome. Jeevika was willing to sacrifice her wedding for her sister. No one imagined on Jeevika will accept the family that has directly/indirectly separated Manvi from her during the most significant & important moment of her life.

Exactly...the worst thing any girl would want on her wedding day. Feel bad for her!

Amidst all these decisions...only one person knows what actually has to be done. The sensible and the wise DECISION comes from Badi Beeji! Hats off to you. In all these acts of staying away, covering up, hiding pain, crying n wat not...her one line summed it all..."for one daughter's happiness, i can't buy tears for the other daughter"...the fact remains...if there is happiness, it is mutually for both...and if there are tears...then one possibly can't cry alone. So...for Jeevika's happiness on her wedding day, Manvi HAS to be there...and for Manvi to be happy, she HAS to participate in every part of her sister's wedding and make it a memorable one for her.

- Bade BG was the hero of the episode. The CV's never gave any importance to Bade BG until yesterday. She totally rocked and her stand was superb. She can't sacrifice one daughter's happiness for another. I also liked hw she told Manvi to stay how she is and let the elders take care of serious matters. The highlight of yesterday's episode was the Bade BG & Manvi.

Absolutely...Badi Beeji was the star...i sooo wanna see her giving her piece of mind to Beeji. But then i feel bad for Beeji also 😆...LOVED the Badi Beeji-Mannu scene...both were really good!

On a side note...one decision that i loved today was made by Dr. Mannan...of NOT attending the wedding. Like Jeevika, I was also relieved to know that he's not coming

- Totally agreed with you. I was relieved & loved the way both Jeevika & Mannan handles the situation.

Very true!

I m totally looking forward for today's episode to see the other side of Jeevika that most of her family have not seen. An ideal daughter who will put the interest of the elders before hers who will now stand up against her BG's decision for her sister. After so long, I'm writing a long draggy post. Sorry if I bored anyone 😊

Aww!! U didn't bore at all. Thoroughly enjoyed reading ur comment n replying to you! Thanks!

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: aa123.80

Okay, yes I agree... For me, Beeji did the most stupid thing by telling Manvi not to come to the wedding itself. I found that absurd from the word go. How the hell did she even think she'd be able to hide this from so many ppl and no one would even notice when the bride's sister is missing? And most of all, her thinking that Manvi would be an obstacle to eevika's happiness was dumb, cause Maanvi not being there would completely ensure that Jeevika is miserable at her own wedding.

Swamini wasn't at fault really.. Cause she just asked Beeji to keep Manvi away from her, not from the wedding. The whole plan was Beeji's who didn't even think over how absurd the whole thing was. She could've easily told Manvi that if she committed one more mistake, Jeevika's wedding could even break, and then told her to keep away from the arrangements.

As for Badi beeji, I'm glad she had the sense to stay back with manvi. She knows one daughter won't be happy at the cost of the other daughter's happiness, and she was the star of the epi. The whole scene between Manvi and Badi beeji was sweetly done, loved it.

Ishu...just two words for your post I AGREE 😆😆...As for Swamini...i didn't say, baba...that she's at fault. I chose the wrong day to make this post *uff*...but like Sona, u also know what I feel abt Swamini, Beeji n everyone else...so i'm not writing it again!
Sorry for this short reply...😳
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: ayesha_80



Indeed nice discussing with you Ayesha. Enjoy the way hw everyone expresses their POV is a very mature way here😉

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Nonchalant

A nice read..the length of the post didnt matter much cuz ur ideas were well conveyed through the post and there are hardly any topics providing an insight to the show as a whole like yours..I never get bored when the content is good 😆..i read all such posts where there are engaging discussions on characters and plots of the show,but cant comment often due to time constraints:(..nevertheless enjoy reading them 😳

I agree Badi beeji was the star of the show...Now she knows how to make the right decision at the right time :)..she understand the bond and affection b/w her grand daughters well..could sympathise with Jeevika ..such a big day of her life,and the most special person in her life-her sis goes missing..Though the dialogues and scenes were a bit borderline cheesy ,love how Krystle enacted the scenes⭐️..All questions about Jeevika's love for maanvi being any less should be put to rest now after seeing her tears,angst and all other emotions yesterday 😊

Precap was very interesting..eager to watch Viren's reaction on hearing jeevika's statements

I wish they could do away with the unnecessary dragging and melodrama..But its an SP show after all which thrives on high volt drama moments shown during such special occasions 😆

Aww!! Thanks a lot for the nice words. I was sure that u guys must've slept reading my long post 😆...but am glad that u enjoyed it
Yep...Badi Beeji knows how to handle the situation...coz its human nature...sometimes, our of worry n concern one tends to become unreasonable at times. So, beeji is in that position...and its good that Badi beeji is using her wisdom to do damage control here.
I'm also looking fwd to today's episode...let's see how Jeevika and Viren deal with this issue.
Very true...high voltage drama defines SP shows...but tbh...ehm as of now, has the real feel intact in most of the instances.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Kruti.S-

I am bad at explaining stuff through my writings but I totally agree with you Ayesha...your posts are always well written and I always have good time reading them all...😃

Thanks a lot, Kruti...and who says u r bad at explaining?? I have read ur takes in the MJHT forum as well as here...u indeed put forth ur views very well. 😊
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: uniquebluerose

Hey a pretty nice analllysis with some extremely intresting replies...Well flralnkly speaking I agree Swmini just wanted MA.a..n.vi away from her not from the marriage itself...All Beeji needs to have done is talk about the whole fiasco in front of Jeevika na lso Maanvi and advice Maaniv to stay flrom wamini bua and mischief to the best level...

Virat eyes searching for MAanvi was really cute...someone seems to falling in love and falling hard actually!!!!!
Though Swamini becaoming angry and irritated with Mannu on Sangeeth after teasing was justified her never say die hatred for Maanvi and her appreciation of decoration stoppin when she realised they were overseen by Maanvi was tad too much...
She needs to understand that just like she loves Viren that she jumps when ever people call for Viren's mother for doing the rasams that a moth[er should do then two kids without their parents loving each other a lot is understandable!!!!
Actually i totally agree with what Jeevika says in one of the promos it goes someth[ing like "there are other relationship which are as important/ more important that love between man and woman"
Well i totally agree and also the fact that Sister or sibling love need not be ignored just because you are girla nd your going to get married!!!
An when Jeevika said she will remain a bachelor rather than marry without her sister...I t could have been modified it could be something else like focussing on love for Maanvi rather than her presence in mere wedding and of course the stupid rules the so called ladke wale or the grooms side put on bride side
I am t[aking about things in general here nt focusing n what Mannu di was right or wrong why should girls be brought as if the sole aim of their existance is so that they get married and become part of the husband family forgetting their roots...Its lmost like the dialougue in 3 idiots movie as soon as kid is born they say he will become engineer
and guess as soon as girl is born they will "you will get married to family and be theirs forgetting everything else ans your individuality whether you like it or not"
Making sacrifices for your loved ones liek husband and compromises is not wrong but they way Swamin has been ruling in each and every decesion in the brides family is tad too irritating
I was half expecting Swamini too say Maanvi talks to much if you wnat the marriage to happen let her cut het toungue!!!
And i guess then Beeji and Maanvi will do even that!!!!! So dramtic they making it...its so frustrating come on marraige is something nice you like someone and then you tie the holy know and its not compulsary t[hat just because you get nice groom whom you like you end even murdering family to make grooms family happy and marriage to happen
Sorry i got too frustrated and angry here but couldn't help it!!!!!

Aww!! Its good that u vented here...and i respect ur POV. Not that I agree wid it...coz as per me...its a chain reaction...one thing led to another. And my post was more relating to these decisions and their implications...not just the characters😳
Also, just like in real life ..no one is completely right and the other totally wrong. Everyone makes mistakes. So, neither is Swamini perfect..nor Beeji, Jeevika, Manvi, Vanshika. Each is different from the other...have their own set of priorities and do things which they blv are best in a given situation.
Thanks for commenting. Enjoyed reading ur take 😊
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: ayesha_80

Well, Sona...i i don't think I wrote anywhere that I support or do not support Swamini, Beeji, Manvi or Jeevika. Its not abt support that i've talked abt...its abt how one event lead to a chain reaction from the various ppl...and how their decisions trickle down to affect the person whose happiness is the core issue for them (almost all of them)...but at the end of the day, she's totally unhappy.
I think you know what I feel about Swamini...so, i don't wanna go in the details here. Today, i'm not in a very good mood 😆
LOL..u won't find an IMV/VV here...this is SP, like u said...aur yahan aisey hi sub chalta hai 😉😆


wait.. did you just add more to that post..🤣 Ishu she is trying to get back at us😆.. but m so not reading

and wrt yer reply.. I sincerely dont see the need for you to get defensive here.. neither mine nor Ishu's post was talking about what you feel or perceive.. All I did was present my perception of the context before getting to yest epi.. If I had to respond to your post.. I wld quote it.. thts wat the button is for you know😆 but good you gave a synopsis of the intent of your post.. coz like I said you did go in circles and I did lose sight of the picture at times..

as for SP... yest epi more than gave me the feeling its catching up on the show.. coz at this point the whole situation is so nonsensical.. I dont even feel like having a take on it.. let it pass for now.. IDK how long I can bear the SPness if it becomes the predominant tone.. of the show..
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Posted: 13 years ago
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today jeevika was THE BEST...
today she showed all of us that she is a gr8 actress!!!
i cudn't take ma eyes off her
n it was the first time that she has brought tears 2 ma eyes...
well done,,,,krystle...
u deserve this...🤗👏
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Awww Ayesha, another of your posts... Iw as waiting for one. Let me read it in peace and I will be back with my thoughts...

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