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Posted: 9 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: poppinss



You missed the R in the NAN. He dismissed it without a hearing. Anyways blame it on the cvs. Thisv one is mad hone ke vaastee.


Oh ya how could I have made such a blooper, my bad *face palm* , how did I skip on the devil incarnate the most evil of them all and the first root cause of ShraMans situation today
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: indranigupta


Yes...he is responsible for the mess
But, there are times when you also hear a voice from your heart that this boy has also done so many things even when not asked for it...So, is there a reason why he could have misbehaved and too so badly...
And one more thing Sumo has wider knowledge than him...he has no knowledge about Sumo being blackmailed, about Aditya offering her the pct with an investor story, about Nanu pressurizing her to get married...
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@ bold: totally agree. it's the benefit of having a wider perspective that makes me expect/even demand more from Sumo in the current scenario. And she knows that he doesn't know why she has pushed him away. He did come asking many a time, only to be pushed away even more firmly. Her self-respect jaap and her rudeness might have been her mask, without which she wouldn't have been able to keep her promise to Ramnath, but SHRAVAN DOESN'T KNOW THAT! I can't blame him for not using his brain because he did ask - repeatedly. I can't expect him to suspect his dad, because he hasn't been given the reason to - yet.
Today, Sumo's kitchen monologue left me shaking my head... Adult Sumo mostly behaves like Chhotu Sumo when it comes to Shravan, and that is fine. Many of us take those liberties with that special person in our lives, right? We pretend to be mad over trivial things, because we know they'll come after us, and pacify us. But Sumo has queered the pitch this time. And she is now choosing to forget her role in this mess, this giant traffic pile-up that has clogged all roads connecting their hearts.

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: indranigupta


Yes...he is responsible for the mess
But, there are times when you also hear a voice from your heart that this boy has also done so many things even when not asked for it...So, is there a reason why he could have misbehaved and too so badly...
And one more thing Sumo has wider knowledge than him...he has no knowledge about Sumo being blackmailed, about Aditya offering her the pct with an investor story, about Nanu pressurizing her to get married...
Knowledge is precious and how one uses it can change and transform anyone's life

I agree somewhat but
Suman has more knowledge of situation... but problem with Shravan is he is not ready to update his knowledge database.. His reading of Suman is still based on 10 year old events...😆
since the time he is back to India.. his own brother Puskhar has always said nice things about Suman..but Shravan won't add it to his database
Everyone in Suman's family says only good things about her... But Shravan is not ready to accept...
Even in that Anjali's party.. all the school friends are asking ke Where is Suman? Where is Suman... if she really was a selfish girl, why would ppl ask about her.. But Shravan will not update his database...If she was an opportunist why would Anjali give her the catering order?? but his record is stuck at the same place... 😡
and the most important thing.. she is running her own business and have employed 4/5 ladies to work for her... 4-5 ladies working harmoniously under one roof ... is a feat to achieve.. but Suman has done that... so the girl definitely has some good qualities...
but he will overlook all that...
So no one can enlighten his outdated mindset...
It will get a fresh insight only when his fathers truth is out..
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Lovely!!
Seems that u r a die-hard Jennifer fan!
Excited for Behad??
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: penganga

I agree somewhat but
Suman has more knowledge of situation... but problem with Shravan is he is not ready to update his knowledge database.. His reading of Suman is still based on 10 year old events...😆
since the time he is back to India.. his own brother Puskhar has always said nice things about Suman..but Shravan won't add it to his database
Everyone in Suman's family says only good things about her... But Shravan is not ready to accept...
Even in that Anjali's party.. all the school friends are asking ke Where is Suman? Where is Suman... if she really was a selfish girl, why would ppl ask about her.. But Shravan will not update his database...If she was an opportunist why would Anjali give her the catering order?? but his record is stuck at the same place... 😡
and the most important thing.. she is running her own business and have employed 4/5 ladies to work for her... 4-5 ladies working harmoniously under one roof ... is a feat to achieve.. but Suman has done that... so the girl definitely has some good qualities...
but he will overlook all that...
So no one can enlighten his outdated mindset...
It will get a fresh insight only when his fathers truth is out..



Hi, a few thoughts:
I'd say that Shravan HAS actually updated his database. Had he not, he wouldn't have told his dad (his bhagwan literally) that he KNOWS that Suman will not abandon him. He wouldn't have been (quite firmly) trying to justify her role in bringing Nirmala back in their lives.
BUT when his castle came crashing down from the clouds, the old fears were all scraped raw. And with that came out his old perception of Sumo - the brash, insensitive image of a girl he carried in his head when he left for London... Add to this, Ramnath's constant fear-mongering and you have a disaster.

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Sumo's reaction in the kitchen was rather juvenile. When she saw him leave...the most spontaneous thing to do would be to go after him...because she witnessed Shravan's anger and pain! But instead she just stood there like an idiot!


The fact is that...to stretch the drama even more...the CVs have morphed Sumo in to an inane person. Had Sumo reacted the way that would seem normal to us...the mu between Shraman would probably have inched towards being solved...and that is what the CVs won't allow! MU is the sole basis on which the CVs have tried to build the story...and alas...when the foundation is wobbly...it is only a matter of time before everything comes crashing down!
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Suman has decided to listen to teh teenaged Sumo after a long time, because that girl had been a super girl..a Rock..Nothing could shake her...May be that girl had more sense...May be shewas handling this all wrong, melting for Shravan every second and letting go of her resolve to stay strong...For the guy had been utmost rude and insulting and scathing...and had condemned her to something that was unimaginable...It seemed to come from the depths of him...calling her UGLY...it had shaken her like nothing else had...That he could harbour so much HATRED for her...
More than HURT, she saw HATRED that day...


That is why when her heart melts for Shravan she reminds herself that he HATES her...It is not a convenient way to escape him..just the TRUTH as she feels comes from him... ..

Even I was hoping for empathy...had been banking on it...But it came and went...Because she had lost all hope.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: chicksoup

Suman has decided to listen to teh teenaged Sumo after a long time, because that girl had been a super girl..a Rock..Nothing could shake her...May be that girl had more sense...May be shewas handling this all wrong, melting for Shravan every second and letting go of her resolve to stay strong...For the guy had been utmost rude and insulting and scathing...and had condemned her to something that was unimaginable...It seemed to come from the depths of him...calling her UGLY...it had shaken her like nothing else had...That he could harbour so much HATRED for her...

More than HURT, she saw HATRED that day...


That is why when her heart melts for Shravan she reminds herself that he HATES her...It is not a convenient way to escape him..just the TRUTH as she feels comes from him... ..

Even I was hoping for empathy...had been banking on it...But it came and went...Because she had lost all hope.


But - despite everything - like every little thing - does sumo not feel she needs to give this crucial piece of information to shravan that nirmala and aditya are maa-beta? despite everything, does she not know what this information will do to her best friend? forget talking - can she not at the least text him about the same?

i mean, once shravan knows of this from someone else, how can she expect him to trust her EVER again? just, how? she has made this huge decision to make the two people shravan hates the most a part of her life, forever - and she does not have any concern about her "friend" over this?

That woman - whom she expects to give her maa ka pyar - is shravan's own mother damn it and the woman who has scarred him for life - how can as a friend - she cannot ponder over this? can't get this, for the life of me.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: QUIRKY333


But - despite everything - like every little thing - does sumo not feel she needs to give this crucial piece of information to shravan that nirmala and aditya are maa-beta? despite everything, does she not know what this information will do to her best friend? forget talking - can she not at the least text him about the same?

i mean, once shravan knows of this from someone else, how can she expect him to trust her EVER again? just, how? she has made this huge decision to make the two people shravan hates the most a part of her life, forever - and she does not have any concern about her "friend" over this?

That woman - whom she expects to give her maa ka pyar - is shravan's own mother damn it and the woman who has scarred him for life - how can as a friend - she cannot ponder over this? can't get this, for the life of me.


Fact is, Nirmala- Adi is nothing compared to losing Suman as far as Shravan is concerned...It is not going to make any bit of difference to him if Adtiya is the boy Nirmala mothered...

And Nirmala has told Suman not tolet this out for the very reason it is going to upset Shravan...and she wouldn't stir a hornet's nest when she had no control over Sharavn...This is not like the days she tries to reconcile mother and son...she has no such hold over him.

Frankly, IMO Suman should not break this news to him...CVs shouldn't either..He will not get any more bitter anyway...it is a waste of a track if the truth is out now...
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: QUIRKY333


But - despite everything - like every little thing - does sumo not feel she needs to give this crucial piece of information to shravan that nirmala and aditya are maa-beta? despite everything, does she not know what this information will do to her best friend? forget talking - can she not at the least text him about the same?

i mean, once shravan knows of this from someone else, how can she expect him to trust her EVER again? just, how? she has made this huge decision to make the two people shravan hates the most a part of her life, forever - and she does not have any concern about her "friend" over this?

That woman - whom she expects to give her maa ka pyar - is shravan's own mother damn it and the woman who has scarred him for life - how can as a friend - she cannot ponder over this? can't get this, for the life of me.



...And she the one who could fills reams with her thoughts on the importance of Nirmala in Shravan's life! So contradictory.
Baffles me completely...

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