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Posted: 9 years ago
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Lovely post. I agree with your points of view and think the same too. Firstly, the two main characters have been developed very well. Suman, seems fuzzy headed and with her head in the clouds. And Shravan is scarred, but not in the way other heroes have been in the past. His past evoked uncontrollable jealousy and insecurities of epic magnitudes within him. And these qualities have drugged him and impaired his ability to see clearly. But importantly, they have been shown as characters wrapped with each other in their thoughts- Shravan more so than Suman. And when your weaknesses overcome your strengths things happen around you and spiral out of control- so, when Aditya repeatedly lied to Shravan, he who was only thinking of Suman and her reactions- Suman and only Suman and his insecurities and his love for Suman- he failed to notice the third person and his lies. Similarly, Suman, whose thoughts were consumed by Shravan did the same and associated everything with Shravan and Aditya was an addendum that could be cast away.

I truly truly hope that there is no hate marriage or marriage of any other kind. It would take away the enjoyment I get from this series. Surely, there are other tracks available? Let's hope that there are more creative juices flowing in this production house and they are able to think beyond the marriage.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: MrDarcyfan

@ LeenaRG:

Yes if Ramnath has to agree to a marriage of Suman and Shravan it will indeed be poetic justice. But I hope they have a better idea.

Yes 3rd angle is a cliche, but then it was done well here. This guy came for a wedding and spotted a pretty girl and now trying to get in her good books. Happens all the time. My cousin came to my wedding and met my husband's sister and 2 years later they got married. So it does happen and though it appears cliched it is still realistic. It is a statistical fact that many people meet a future spouse at someone's wedding.


Aditya has walked into a minefield and the truth is he was needed in this narrative to bring it to this high point. Finally Shravan has lost faith in Suman totally and Aditya has played a huge role in that. This had to happen for the rest of the drama i.e Nirmala angle to play out. So I dont think Aditya is a cliche, he actually moves the story. Unlike in some shows the 3rd angle just keeps stagnating the show, and tries to become the lead.

Forced marriage is not something I wish to see on this show and I hope the creatives think better of it!

Happy for your cousin and anyone else who found a good mate at a wedding but realistic as it may be, there is no reason for the inclusion of a third wheel in almost every desi show on TV. Iam firmly of the opinion that the story could have moved forward just fine without any Aditya, it just required a bit more brainstorming amongst the cvs than they are accustomed to. Pity.
As for the marriage, I don't want one at all, let alone a forced one. Would much prefer if Sumo were to handle the Aditya fiasco in a way similar to the Shravan-Urvashi one.
I still love the show although I have a lot less faith in the cvs since Aditya's entry. It's been nothing but predictable since then. I'm hoping that once the Aditya angle wanes, the intricacy in Shaman's relationship will be highlighted again.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Mandy
A good post
The cvs have tried to address the fans' anxiety but remarkably they have also shown the courage to follow their story...And that for me is brave...so one should in spite of the few hits and misses give them due credit for...
I have been telling many people on the forum of late...that as the story is progressing the cliched hate marriage is not possible in this show...Not because it is done to death...but, because it doesnt fit in with their character sketches...Marriage in this state can happen under only one circumstance...and which also needs time to evolve...
The coming Monday episode verbalizes that he is no longer the same Shravan. This show started out with a query from Daboo...are you Suman didi's Shravan? He had then also answered No..
Now again...he says he is no longer that Shravan...the mirror broken and a new Shravan emerging...
But, then also we had seen Shravan was looking out for her whether on Facebook, or by just looking at her back knew it was her...Or, the fact...that he just was there when the goons attacked Sumo...waiting if she required his help...
Now...the anger is far more perceptible because he is no longer a child...But, then if ten years of absence from Sumo could not take him away from her...why would a third wheel be able to do that? Sumo waited then for him to return...she was sure he would. This time her confidence might be shaken considering he will not run away ...but, stay right there in her line of vision. But, as Shakespeare said Love is not love that alteration finds...an Aditya even with his easy-going ways will not be able to enter the space reserved for Shravan in Sumo's heart. Shravan likewise will not allow her to be used by anyone...though he may believe he has the right to break her into million pieces. A fact represented by the broken pieces of mirror in his room...
Aditya , though a third wheel is an interesting figure and the cvs have given him ample time to present his character sketch...one which is a quite a contrast to what he professes to be...His lies are becoming increasingly evident now...And it would be interesting to see how the new Shravan manages to deal with this sweet stuff...who might not be so sweet...
If SS's relationship is always marred by time, Aditya uses time well😉
I am very sure that the cvs are not going to go the hate marriage track

Edited by indranigupta - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: indranigupta

Mandy

A good post
The cvs have tried to address the fans' anxiety but remarkably they have also shown the courage to follow their story...And that for me is brave...so one should in spite of the few hits and misses give them due credit for...
I have been telling many people on the forum of late...that as the story is progressing the cliched hate marriage is not possible in this show...Not because it is done to death...but, because it doesnt fit in with their character sketches...Marriage in this state can happen under only one circumstance...and which also needs time to evolve...
The coming Monday episode verbalizes that he is no longer the same Shravan. This show started out with a query from Daboo...are you Suman didi's Shravan? He had then also answered No..
Now again...he says he is no longer that Shravan...the mirror broken and a new Shravan emerging...
But, then also we had seen Shravan was looking out for her whether on Facebook, or by just looking at her back knew it was her...Or, the fact...that he just was there when the goons attacked Sumo...waiting if she required his help...
Now...the anger is far more perceptible because he is no longer a child...But, then if ten years of absence from Sumo could not take him away from her...why would a third wheel be able to do that? Sumo waited then for him to return...she was sure he would. This time her confidence might be shaken considering he will not run away ...but, stay right there in her line of vision. But, as Shakespeare said Love is not love that alteration finds...an Aditya even with his easy-going ways will not be able to enter the space reserved for Shravan in Sumo's heart. Shravan likewise will not allow her to be used by anyone...though he may believe he has the right to break her into million pieces. A fact represented by the broken pieces of mirror in his room...
Aditya , though a third wheel is an interesting figure and the cvs have given him ample time to present his character sketch...one which is a quite a contrast to what he professes to be...His lies are becoming increasingly evident now...And it would be interesting to see how the new Shravan manages to deal with this sweet stuff...who might not be so sweet...
If SS's relationship is always marred by time, Aditya uses time well😉
I am very sure that the cvs are not going to go the hate marriage track


Exactly ! The hate marriage will not fit here. I think that this huge MU may actually work in their favour, because all they have been doing in the last few weeks is expecting too much from each other, getting disappointed and taking it out on each other. If they don't talk with each other, at least there will be no more fighting and they will actually start missing each other.
Adithya will never be able to take Shravan's place, no question about that. There is one thing about him, his mother died when he was young, I don't know when his father died, lets say about 5-6 years back and he handed over all responsibilities of his children and business to Nirmala. This means that in the last few years they have been very close, how then does he not know about Nirmala's past ?
He is definitely not what he seems to be, that need not mean that he will be a negative character but might be grey.

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: MrDarcyfan




I dont know if ShaMan marriage will happen right now. But I doubt Aditya and Suman marriage will happen. I would hate a cliched "Hate marriage" or "MU marriage" etc. Ideally I dont want it to happen.

Shravan will clearly be shattered even further hearing the news of the marriage. Of course it will confirm to him all the theories that he cooked up that his Father fed him about how women are not trustworthy and independent women even less so.


What I feel is that Shravan is going to put on his mask again. He will act like he dosen't care because he is taking his Father's advice. "Increase your strength because people will use your weakness against you!" He will go and blast Suman (next week's episodes) because he thinks she used him again. Led him up the garden path when he had started to trust her. The fact is, it was VERY hard for him to trust her again. I have covered that a few times in my own stories. He got to that point when things started to unravel again.


The major issue here is that he does not know a lot of FACTS. He is blind to his Father's true nature and does not know that 90% of the issue in his parents marriage was due to his attitude and mistrust. Then he also doesn't know that 100% of the issues between him and Suman are because his Dad does not want them together. He has NO idea that the Father who appeared to support him despite his reservations about him and Suman was actually playing a double game. Suman could tell him this, but after the Nirmala incident, it was VERY clear that Shravan will never believe anyone over his Dad and that is the reason Suman does not say anything.


The ONLY way this mess will be resolved is by Nirmala and Shravan knowing the actual truth of what happened between his parents. THAT is the way I would move the story. I would move it with Nirmala and Shravan meeting and over a period of weeks him coming to know the truth and through that realizing the bigger picture of his Father's hand in the MU's between him and Suman!

yeah I agree with you Mandy it's very imp that Shravan should know what Ramnath actually is what he did with his wife
To clears mus between shraman firstly things are needed to be cleared between Nirmala and Shravan
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: indranigupta

Mandy

A good post
The cvs have tried to address the fans' anxiety but remarkably they have also shown the courage to follow their story...And that for me is brave...so one should in spite of the few hits and misses give them due credit for...
I have been telling many people on the forum of late...that as the story is progressing the cliched hate marriage is not possible in this show...Not because it is done to death...but, because it doesnt fit in with their character sketches...Marriage in this state can happen under only one circumstance...and which also needs time to evolve...
The coming Monday episode verbalizes that he is no longer the same Shravan. This show started out with a query from Daboo...are you Suman didi's Shravan? He had then also answered No..
Now again...he says he is no longer that Shravan...the mirror broken and a new Shravan emerging...
But, then also we had seen Shravan was looking out for her whether on Facebook, or by just looking at her back knew it was her...Or, the fact...that he just was there when the goons attacked Sumo...waiting if she required his help...
Now...the anger is far more perceptible because he is no longer a child...But, then if ten years of absence from Sumo could not take him away from her...why would a third wheel be able to do that? Sumo waited then for him to return...she was sure he would. This time her confidence might be shaken considering he will not run away ...but, stay right there in her line of vision. But, as Shakespeare said Love is not love that alteration finds...an Aditya even with his easy-going ways will not be able to enter the space reserved for Shravan in Sumo's heart. Shravan likewise will not allow her to be used by anyone...though he may believe he has the right to break her into million pieces. A fact represented by the broken pieces of mirror in his room...
Aditya , though a third wheel is an interesting figure and the cvs have given him ample time to present his character sketch...one which is a quite a contrast to what he professes to be...His lies are becoming increasingly evident now...And it would be interesting to see how the new Shravan manages to deal with this sweet stuff...who might not be so sweet...
If SS's relationship is always marred by time, Aditya uses time well😉
I am very sure that the cvs are not going to go the hate marriage track


I know! It's going to be a kiss between the two during the marriage. Why else would NP talk about SSS and why else do they need 6 days for marrying off Preekar! They are going to build the chemistry that leads to their kiss :).

Itv would neither be a hate nor forced marriage. It would be more a confusion marriage. Where Shraman are back to square one... with a little less hatred from Shravans end 😉

The only way we are going to get SR inI this show is if they marry. The other way out would be Nanu is sick and Shravan keeps visiting TK but dunno if that would work!

So what do you think 😉

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: nith125


Exactly ! The hate marriage will not fit here. I think that this huge MU may actually work in their favour, because all they have been doing in the last few weeks is expecting too much from each other, getting disappointed and taking it out on each other. If they don't talk with each other, at least there will be no more fighting and they will actually start missing each other.
Adithya will never be able to take Shravan's place, no question about that. There is one thing about him, his mother died when he was young, I don't know when his father died, lets say about 5-6 years back and he handed over all responsibilities of his children and business to Nirmala. This means that in the last few years they have been very close, how then does he not know about Nirmala's past ?
He is definitely not what he seems to be, that need not mean that he will be a negative character but might be grey.


I don't want him negative. Grey is ok but black no no. His means are a bit twisted... But hope Shravan learnsa thing or two from him ;)
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Posted: 9 years ago
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I know! It's going to be a kiss between the two during the marriage. Why else would NP talk about SSS and why else do they need 6 days for marrying off Preekar! They are going to build the chemistry that leads to their kiss :).

Itv would neither be a hate nor forced marriage. It would be more a confusion marriage. Where Shraman are back to square one... with a little less hatred from Shravans end 😉

The only way we are going to get SR inI this show is if they marry. The other way out would be Nanu is sick and Shravan keeps visiting TK but dunno if that would work!

So what do you think 😉

Till the time the marriage proceedings of PP are going on, they can meet...But, after that if they can only meet because of marriage the whole dramatic intensity of this show loses out...Marriage can occur under only one circumstance (which I am not going to mention as of now)...
They can meet under other pretext as well...Few after marriage rituals of Preeti can also bring them on the same page...Otherwise, Shravan since he is a changed man, he will create lots of troubles for Sumo...and that will allow them to meet..
Edited by indranigupta - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: poppinss


I don't want him negative. Grey is ok but black no no. His means are a bit twisted... But hope Shravan learnsa thing or two from him ;)

Shravan doesnt need to learn from him...Aditya needs to learn
Shravan needs to learn only from Sumo
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: nith125


Exactly ! The hate marriage will not fit here. I think that this huge MU may actually work in their favour, because all they have been doing in the last few weeks is expecting too much from each other, getting disappointed and taking it out on each other. If they don't talk with each other, at least there will be no more fighting and they will actually start missing each other.
Adithya will never be able to take Shravan's place, no question about that. There is one thing about him, his mother died when he was young, I don't know when his father died, lets say about 5-6 years back and he handed over all responsibilities of his children and business to Nirmala. This means that in the last few years they have been very close, how then does he not know about Nirmala's past ?
He is definitely not what he seems to be, that need not mean that he will be a negative character but might be grey.

Bingo! Nith...And his constant jhaap of my mommy is an angel in the presence of Shravan will have the same impact as it had in relation to Sumo. Shravan would feel deserted and all alone when he comes to know of Aditya's mother's real identity. It would shatter him
The way he riled up Shravan with him being Sumo's special friend, this mommy angle will have the same impact...Wonder if he is really as innocent as he seems🥱

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