Missing Out on Ten Very Long Years and the Consequences

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Posted: 9 years ago
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I realize that I am probably taking a HUGE risk posting this here, given what I've seen of the forum and "majority" reactions and views, but still I'm posting this here. I'm not justifying Shravan's behaviors and his reactions, but just stepping back and trying to understand his POV and his perception of things, especially of Sumo. I'd love to read what you guys think after reading this

A while back, I posted a write up of how time and solitude-states have affected ShraMan (link to that is here: https://twitter.com/eshaaax3/status/744286012873015296), and I still stand with my take that Shravan hasn't changed one bit and also fails to see that Sumo has changed, and I don't blame him for that. He lost out on ten years of Sumo's life, and he has no solid "proof" that allows him to confidently say Yes, Sumo has changed and isn't the Sumo I left ten years ago.

Back then, Suman's "obsession" with her image was a coping mechanism to deal with the loss in her life and her loneliness, though I'd say her ways were rooted in childish antics. Today, Suman's self-respect isn't a coping mechanism, but something she truly values. She's learned to value her self-respect because of the hurdles she's had to fight in life. But the problem is that Shravan hasn't witnessed this change from "obsessed with public image" to "my self-respect comes first". That in itself speaks a lot as to how Suman has changed as an individual and what a huge part of Suman's life Shravan has missed out on. The girl, who once upon a time only cared for her image and how she was perceived in public, is a woman today who holds principles and morals that protect her self-respect and doesn't allow her to fall to her knees, no matter the circumstance. But again, has Shravan been there to see this character development in Sumo? No. Shravan hasn't changed, yes, but how is he supposed to believe that his bestest friend Sumo has indeed changed when he hasn't witnessed this change (not to add that the very last bit of his memories with his best friend from ten years ago are nothing but him feeling disappointment)?! The same thing is happening now. Ten years ago, Suman disregarded him, refused to acknowledge him, and took his words lightly, especially when in public. Suman's behavior today- though she has her reasons for behaving this way yet again- leads to Shravan feeling that same disappointment creep up. Suman avoiding Shravan, disregarding him, and taking someone else's help over his, reiterates his vision that Sumo today is still that SAME Sumo. Throughout his friendship with Suman, Shravan has bent over backwards to help Suman out whenever she needed it. For Shravan, it's almost like it's his right to help Suman and be there for her at all times. But Shravan doesn't understand that Suman USED to be dependent on him, and that isn't the case anymore because she's learned to befriend the solitude state she was put in, stand up and be an independent individual. And because Shravan hasn't been exposed to that character development of Suman, today, when Suman takes someone else's help and disregards him, the situations act like some kind of mirror almost, reflecting the friendship that Shravan walked away from in disappointment ten years ago. He is bound to question and feel rejected over why Suman is taking someone else's help instead of his when at one point in time, Suman would always come to him for help/he would be there for her, no questions asked.

When Shravan came back to India, one of the first things he was told was that "Suman ab woh Suman nahi rahi". A very simple line but Shravan still hasn't grasped onto the gravity of those few words. He did, however, catch a glimpse of a side of Suman he was unaware of when she spoke to him about her parents. Remember what Shravan said to Suman then? Aaj main tumhe shayaad pehle se bhi behtar janta hoon. Tumhara yeh side na maine school mein dekha aur na uske baad... Of course, uske baad toh mauka hi nahin mila..." Shravan said it himself... he missed out in those ten years he was gone, and this was just a teeny tiny bit that Sumo had expressed to him.

Only when Shravan gets exposed to the weight behind Suman's character development and realizes how much sweat and effort Suman has actually poured into building PCT on her own, will he come to terms with Suman's behavior/actions today. And until then, Shravan is going to continue to see the Sumo from ten years ago reflect in today's Suman when she disregards him, because that is the Suman he is familiar with and knows and remembers.



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I just feel like Shravan's being thrown under the bus and everything's being put on him, but we as an audience need to understand where he's coming from, why he's like that. We understand Sumo's majboori, she can't just go and tell her bestfriend yet again that his father is deceiving him- she tried that once, and faced the fire of it. But we need to also understand Shravan. We may not agree with his actions/reactions, we don't need to justify him, but we can consider his perspective as well. What he needs is the raw truth to hit him.


- Esha 😊

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Giving all credit to what u have said in defense of Shravan...of he being oblivious of those ten years of Sumans life...Can we still say he loves Suman...coz in that case he fell.in love with a different girl a 16 year old Sumo..and now she is not the same Sumo in whom he is trying to find his love?
He liked the fact the girl depended on him for smallest of things and was always around him when he needed her.I believe..except for the last incident b4 he left!..things changed and going back to that state is not possible! So does his love still stands valid?
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Posted: 9 years ago
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You said everything I wanted to say and much more 👏. Loved what you said !
I am a Sumo person through and through and I don't see anything wrong in what you have said and I can relate to this Shravan. I was saving up my thoughts for my weekly analysis I post on Friday but here it is.
Ten years is a very very long time. Distance doesn't make the heart grow fonder always. When two people don't communicate it is very easy for them to assume the worst about each other how much ever you trust the person. So think about it, Shravan left not with his trust intact but he left when his trust was shattered.It is not easy for him, I don't think it will ever be, as difficult as it may be for us to accept this. We all have our personal demons, so does Shravan Malhotra. And he has always been in conflict with his demon called insecurity since he came back. He hides it well and he struggles, he almost cries but we hadn't seen him giving up. Why ?
His strength is Sumo. He derives his strength from her. Imagine being in a home of constant conflict. The two adults who are supposed to be your role models constants bickering, blaming each other, do we expect that child to grow up and be a man who will trust ? Back then and even now, Shravan got his strength from Sumo, while the younger Shravan wanted to do things for her, to make her happy, it was very important for him not to "share" her. He wasn't willing to even then, how would he be willing now ? This Shravan who hasn't seen Sumo grow up, who hasn't seen the caterpillar transform into the butterfly will struggle to believe it. Its a fact and we see it now.
How will he handle the fact that the one thing, in fact the only thing he ever wanted in his life is going away from him ? Try taking a candy away from a child after the child thinks that the candy is his. Nothing will make the child normal again, until you give the candy back. You can try anything, sing a song, dance make funny faces, give him ice-cream, you can pacify the child but not satisfy him. He will still in the back of his mind think about the candy you took away.
That miffed child as it was mentioned in a post yesterday is now our Shravan Malhotra.
Rational thinking fails him, he cannot see clearly or think clearly. If he had a chance and somewhere deep down he has given up after he saw Adithya and Sumo together. There is a quote I read somewhere about inner demons
"I have given up fighting my inner demons, we are on the same side now".
How true and how apt for Shravan !
However I don't think he has it in him to abandon Sumo. We will see him fight his demon and emerge stronger. That which doesn't kill you only makes you stronger right ?
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: nancyrio90

Giving all credit to what u have said in defense of Shravan...of he being oblivious of those ten years of Sumans life...Can we still say he loves Suman...coz in that case he fell.in love with a different girl a 16 year old Sumo..and now she is not the same Sumo in whom he is trying to find his love?

He liked the fact the girl depended on him for smallest of things and was always around him when he needed her (I believe..except for the last incident b4 he left!.)...things changed and going back to that state is not possible! So does his love still stands valid?

Hi Nancy ( if I may call you by name), I think the only thing that kept him going without losing his sanity was the love he has for Sumo and the respect he has for his father. Shravan Malhotra as we know is nothing without them both. The scars of the past are not easily healed as time doesn't heal all wounds.Till now what we have seen is that Shravan has still emotional baggage and trust issues stemming out of his parents' relationship and they lay buried and are surfacing now. He will deal with it. He needs constant assurance that Sumo is his and his only and till he gets that he will be insecure but that doesn't mean that he doesn't love her anymore.

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: eshaaax3.

I realize that I am probably taking a HUGE risk posting this here, given what I've seen of the forum and "majority" reactions and views, but still I'm posting this here.

- Esha 😊

Missed this, I think the majority of us here are way too fond of Shravan that we tend to critique every small action or inaction of his, but we adore the Shravan Malhotra. If he as much as gives a loving glance towards Sumo, all our anger will vanish. There is no risk in posting it here!
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: nancyrio90

Giving all credit to what u have said in defense of Shravan...of he being oblivious of those ten years of Sumans life...Can we still say he loves Suman...coz in that case he fell.in love with a different girl a 16 year old Sumo..and now she is not the same Sumo in whom he is trying to find his love?

He liked the fact the girl depended on him for smallest of things and was always around him when he needed her.I believe..except for the last incident b4 he left!..things changed and going back to that state is not possible! So does his love still stands valid?



See the thing is, when Suman today behaves like 16 year old Sumo, that is what disappoints Shravan as a FRIEND. He DOES love her, and missing out on ten years of her life doesn't invalidate his love for her. But her actions such as disregarding him, not being dependent on him like she used to be, avoiding him ... all this catches him off guard like it did 10 years ago and makes him question how their friendship works. Remember that for Shravan, he still assumes his love is one sided, and when Suman behaves this way, it makes him believe even more that this is unrequited love- remember his letter for her? He did tell her, don't break our friendship- for him the friendship side of their relation stands first before all else. So his disappointment in her is as a friend, not essentially as a lover. Shravan still cares for Sumo, despite being disappointed in her behavior and seeing the reflection of 16 year old Sumo. He still freaks out when he hears her cracked voice after she's shed a bucket load of tears. He's still ready to stand by her and he will stick up for her, heck he's getting jealous of another guy (and he has no reason to be, but he it's human nature). So it's not that he loves two different people; he does love Suman, but as a FRIEND, he keeps getting disappointed and that disappointment makes him believe all the more that his love is "one sided".


i hope that made sense?! lol
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Wow!!!!nice post nith125 and eshaaax3 . This is exactly what I have been thinking too. But this track has been combined with too many other tracks and has been dragged endlessly that's what is causing this frustration. Otherwise this track by itself would have been very nice and pertinent.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: nith125

You said everything I wanted to say and much more 👏. Loved what you said !

I am a Sumo person through and through Me too! :) and I don't see anything wrong in what you have said and I can relate to this Shravan. I was saving up my thoughts for my weekly analysis I post on Friday but here it is.
Ten years is a very very long time. Distance doesn't make the heart grow fonder always. When two people don't communicate it is very easy for them to assume the worst about each other how much ever you trust the person. So think about it, Shravan left not with his trust intact but he left when his trust was shattered.It is not easy for him, I don't think it will ever be, as difficult as it may be for us to accept this. We all have our personal demons, so does Shravan Malhotra. And he has always been in conflict with his demon called insecurity since he came back. He hides it well and he struggles, he almost cries but we hadn't seen him giving up. Why ?
His strength is Sumo. He derives his strength from her. Imagine being in a home of constant conflict. The two adults who are supposed to be your role models constants bickering, blaming each other, do we expect that child to grow up and be a man who will trust ? Back then and even now, Shravan got his strength from Sumo, while the younger Shravan wanted to do things for her, to make her happy, it was very important for him not to "share" her. He wasn't willing to even then, how would he be willing now ? This Shravan who hasn't seen Sumo grow up, who hasn't seen the caterpillar transform into the butterfly will struggle to believe it. Its a fact and we see it now.
How will he handle the fact that the one thing, in fact the only thing he ever wanted in his life is going away from him ? Try taking a candy away from a child after the child thinks that the candy is his. Nothing will make the child normal again, until you give the candy back. You can try anything, sing a song, dance make funny faces, give him ice-cream, you can pacify the child but not satisfy him. He will still in the back of his mind think about the candy you took away.
That miffed child as it was mentioned in a post yesterday is now our Shravan Malhotra.
Rational thinking fails him, he cannot see clearly or think clearly. If he had a chance and somewhere deep down he has given up after he saw Adithya and Sumo together. There is a quote I read somewhere about inner demons
"I have given up fighting my inner demons, we are on the same side now".
How true and how apt for Shravan !
However I don't think he has it in him to abandon Sumo. We will see him fight his demon and emerge stronger. That which doesn't kill you only makes you stronger right ?



ahh thank you for expanding on my thoughts and adding your inputs as well!


This Shravan who hasn't seen Sumo grow up, who hasn't seen the caterpillar transform into the butterfly will struggle to believe it

^ This is the reality of it; it will take a lot for him to grasp onto this, especially after what he's been fed by Ramnath, the one person he believes never betrayed him. The audience knows HOW Ramnath is, but SHRAVAN does not, and he can't be blamed for that.


It hurt him 10 years ago to turn his back on Sumo and leave. He kept denying his father's requests to study in London for Sumo. And it hurt him the most when he turned his back on her and left without saying anything. And despite being miles and miles away, he wasn't able to forget anything about her. And he will never be able to abandon her. He's fighting with his mind and his heart, it's been ten long years, and it's going to take more than just one night for him to understand what has happened in his absence and why things aren't so easy.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: nith125

Hi Nancy ( if I may call you by name), I think the only thing that kept him going without losing his sanity was the love he has for Sumo and the respect he has for his father. Shravan Malhotra as we know is nothing without them both. The scars of the past are not easily healed as time doesn't heal all wounds.Till now what we have seen is that Shravan has still emotional baggage and trust issues stemming out of his parents' relationship and they lay buried and are surfacing now. He will deal with it. He needs constant assurance that Sumo is his and his only and till he gets that he will be insecure but that doesn't mean that he doesn't love her anymore.



true.. even today when he was mad and thinking all wrong abt sumo taking help from adi.. and as soon as he sees her he smiles and he wasnt angry or questioned her why she was with adi..
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: avni01

Wow!!!!nice post nith125 and eshaaax3 . This is exactly what I have been thinking too. But this track has been combined with too many other tracks and has been dragged endlessly that's what is causing this frustration. Otherwise this track by itself would have been very nice and pertinent.


I agree with you. They should have not combined it with the Preekar wedding track or for that matter even the Nirmala track, it has become too much to take in together !

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