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Posted: 9 years ago
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And, just to mention, on the topic of Adi, as of now I dont regard him as wrong or cheap. But I can't even keep him in the safe zone specially the way and the angles from which he looks at Sumo w/o even knowing her a s areal person. So lets keep that to future. I have a strong feeling this banda is gonna end up doing something terribly wrong during trying to confess his feelings as he has no control over his hormones. Having said that, Adi might not be bad but Nirmala for sure is a failed mother per me. And this has everything to do with the kind of person Shravan has become today. He is fragile, easily hurt, doubts his self-worth, somewhere looking for slightest of motivation from others which no one has to give to him from his direct family. Nirmala's intentions might not have been wrong but the way she turned blind to Shravan's existence it leaves me with a bad taste in mouth. She could have fought for her son against Ramnath...that feeling might have been painful but at least not as heart-breaking for Shravan as his mother leaving him w/o even looking at his face. I dont think Ramnath was such a hitler or mass murderer that he could have stopped Nirmala from meeting Shravan even once. She could have kept a condition that she will leave only if she be allowed to meet Shravan atleast once in every few months. How the hell can any mother let her son stay in dark and so much pain just because she doesnt has the guts to fight for him. Does anyone think Shravan is in any better state than he would have been if Nirmala fought for him in court? I don't think so...That feeling would be hurtful but not as traumatic as his mother dumping him.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@serial I am only asking to treat Nirmala a human not a Goddess or anything. Just because she left the child she cannot be bad mother. Even that is keeping standards of what a good mother should be. Grey means not bad, grey means being human. Whether that person have it in them to accept their mistakes.

I know enough selfish woman in personal life and as far as I can see Nirmala doesn't belong to that category.
And independent ziddi woman the definition I guess only a person who has travelled the path of being independent in the society will be able to tell.
What would you tell about a girl who had to abort her healthy fetus because she was fed up suffering her husband's and MILs both physical and emotional abuse. She was my reportee. I had seen the girl trying to save her marriage for 3 years suffering mental abuse to the extend I had to send her many times to counseling centre in my office.
Finally for questioning why he didn't accompany her to the doctor, she was asked to stand outside the house in a wintery evening in Bangalore. She was not supposed to question. That was the law in his place. That was the last straw. Girl terminated the pregnancy and got divorce.
So bad mother. I still remember her calling me and crying hysterically I killed my baby, but I had no option. I cant take it any more and I don't want any connection with him.
I will place Nirmala there. Shravan meant connection with Ramnath. She didn't want any connection with Ramnath.

People would have been a bir sympathetic to nirmala if sge didnt act as a majboor aurat and accepted what she did... From the confrontation of nirmala-ramnath it is quite clear that ramnath is hell scaredof nirmala and her words... If she acted strong and fought against ramnath then shravan wont have to remeber his mother as a cheater... Ramnath made shravan go against nirmala behind her back.. Shravan wasnt leaving with ramnath. He was alone in.london.. She could have secretly visited him and solved all mu but she didnt... Ramnath is not a.completely evil person abd he had no.proof to sgow that nirmlaa had an affair with ahuja...
Also being an independent woman she could have started a new.life by herself than being with ahuja and his family... She kind of proved ramnath right and if shravan tried to find his mother by himself her image will be of ahuja's wife only eventhough she disbt marry him... She is staying in ahuja's house and looking after his children as her own.. Even without ramu kaka in the pic shravan will also mu her.. It clearly looks like since she got another son to look after she completely forgot abput her own...
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Posted: 9 years ago
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@shruthiravi also if shravan meant connection with ramnath she shouldnt have told sumo about their back story or should hace told she has nothing to do with ramu or shravan...
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@sp many people are taking this lying quite seriously. It depends on how you deal with people. Make them feel worthy.

I have a relative. I did something for that uncle and it became a success. They are not very well off people. Still I asked uncle for helping you I need bonda or vada.
Actually he was happy. I can dine in the finest of restaurents, I can eat Indian, Chinese, Mexican anything. I can even take them and go out. My financial status allows.
But then if I tell them what they can afford they will feel worthy. They will feel happy. That uncle got me that immediately also.
And if I have to lie to make someone feel worthy I will do that also. I have done. I take sarees and all without showing bill amount to my relatives during festival times. If they ask me what is the cost, I will tell the budget they expect, but on many occasions I would have spend more. It keeps me happy, it keeps them too happy in 2 way.
If I tell the cost, they will expect more extravagant gifts, which can be misused. Or they will feel they cannot repay me back with equally good gifts. Why the mess.
Some things are done quietly, without telling. It doesn't mean it is wrong. You do it always in managing relations.

Aditya lieing to sumo about lenhga and ypur lie are different.. It is your family and you have a right to do so.. Irs not like you will tell your uncle that a particular thing costs half rhe real price and after he buys it and go out of the store you will pay the rest of the amount.. If your uncle find out about it he will surely feel insulted...
Aditya is not even a close friend of sumo . For sumo he is just a guy she knew a few years back and she is friendlt with.him.. Also aditya is not doing any of the helps purely based on friendship.. He is doing that to impress sumo..if sumo wasnt an attractive girl ge would have left delhi after sangeet..
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@serial I am only asking to treat Nirmala a human not a Goddess or anything. Just because she left the child she cannot be bad mother. Even that is keeping standards of what a good mother should be. Grey means not bad, grey means being human. Whether that person have it in them to accept their mistakes.

I know enough selfish woman in personal life and as far as I can see Nirmala doesn't belong to that category.
And independent ziddi woman the definition I guess only a person who has travelled the path of being independent in the society will be able to tell.
What would you tell about a girl who had to abort her healthy fetus because she was fed up suffering her husband's and MILs both physical and emotional abuse. She was my reportee. I had seen the girl trying to save her marriage for 3 years suffering mental abuse to the extend I had to send her many times to counseling centre in my office.
Finally for questioning why he didn't accompany her to the doctor, she was asked to stand outside the house in a wintery evening in Bangalore. She was not supposed to question. That was the law in his place. That was the last straw. Girl terminated the pregnancy and got divorce.
So bad mother. I still remember her calling me and crying hysterically I killed my baby, but I had no option. I cant take it any more and I don't want any connection with him.
I will place Nirmala there. Shravan meant connection with Ramnath. She didn't want any connection with Ramnath.


More than keeping a connection with Ramnath, I think Nirmala was afraid of what it would do to Shravan to be fought over by his parents like that. If they had fought a court battle, either Ramnath and his lies about Nirmala would hurt Shravan or Nirmala telling Shravan the truth about his father's nature would hurt Shravan.

Nirmala opted for the path that offered Shravan the least amount of disruption in the short term by avoiding the conflict entirely.

I don't think it was the best long term decision for Shravan and that's something that Nirmala is going to have to come to grips with. When you avoid the truth you inevitably face greater harm. With Shravan this became an issue about trusting women in general and abandonment. Learning about Ramnath's true nature most likely wouldn't have led to Shravan questioning his own self worth which is where he is at now.

But saying that Nirmala, from her perspective, thought she was doing what was right for Shravan at the time. Everyone makes mistakes. None of us know how our actions will pan out in the future. What's important is whether she had the ability to foresee the outcome in relation to her actions and acted that way irrespective of Shravan's well being. But I don't think that's what happened.

So, yes, I hope Shravan comes to understand her actions. She has suffered for it. Doing her best to help raise Aditya doesn't mean there wouldn't be a hole in her heart over Shravan. Watching the earlier flashbacks the love and care which she had given her son was clearly apparent. I also think it will be very important for Shravan to forgive her and allow himself some closure so that he can move forward in a healthy way.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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@sp Nirmala has done a mistake. She doesn't realize it. Ramnath is doing mistake. He is also not realizing it. Shravan's case is that of many children not only whose parents are separated, but whose parents are fighting day in day out at home over petty issues. I only said he should stop worshipping Ramnath and should not hate Nirmala to that extend. As a man he has to realize both of them have done their share of mistakes. His father was not completely right, his mother was not completely wrong. Once you reach that understanding it will be easier for him to handle his relation. Else he will suffer in his relation with Suman also. Because subconsciously a template of his parents marriage is inside him.
@Malika you have a valid point. As I said as long as Adi is in his limits I am fine with him. I do not have any qualms if he wants to impress Suman and his intentions are good of taking the relation in a proper route of marriage. The problem happens if he turns out to be a playboy thinking of just using and throwing Suman which I don't think he is hopefully.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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@malikakas you put it perfectly. Nothing more to add. Shravan can get a closure only by understanding Nirmala
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Posted: 9 years ago
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why is she nirmala ahuja? she told sumo that she hadnt married ahuja.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@kavum to be frank I am not finding anything wrong with Adi. If he is positive as he is shown and I expect him to be, if an arranged marriage come for a girl, for a guy like that the parents will proceed. Over the period of time a woman like Sumo if she accepts marriage based on what her nanu and elders have planned, will remain loyal to it and work it out also.

If you see Adi, what he accepts most about Suman is her independence. He prefers to keep her independent. He respects her self respect.


Agree d. But Adi knows nothing about Sumo. Not yet.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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seriuosly i know Shrav is not Ramu .. i want to see how Sumo proves shes not nirmala😊 ki cvs have forgotten that track and now after trps🤢
Adi is not bad but he has not understood Sumo. He is just trying to impress her and to Sumos credit she gives a damn. Her heart is filled only with Shrav😳
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