Nirmala Ahuja Ram and Sumo Adi Shrav

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spshastr

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Posted: 9 years ago

This will surely show Nirmala and Sumo are not the same.

Due to Ramnath Nirmala left her family and ran away due to the ahuja angle. She never thought about Shrav who was her own son .She had kept him in her womb and that relationship is stronger than Sumos where they have not confessed

Due to Ramnath Sumo has abandoned Shrav and she is keeping away but every time he hurts she hurts . She never went and told Aditya her story with Shrav. She just cut him off. For her he is a guest. Everyone forced her so she put haldi. She did not go freely putting that.

I know on the surface it appears to be the same and noone can see Shrav in pain thanks to Namiks fab acting but

This is far deeper .With Nirmala coming back this is going to peak I feel but end mein Sumo is not nirmala.

I trully want that shown clearly as every independent ladki is not nirmala and they dont fail iin relationships. Acc to me Nirmala has failed as a mom

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shruthiravi

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Posted: 9 years ago

@sp I would never want Nirmala to be shown a failed mother. What was Nirmala's motivation of running away. Is it that she couldn't take the oppressive relation anymore. If she had wanted custody of Shravan, Ramnath would have bend every rule in her book to deprive her that. So she decided to let go of Shravan. It is not that she left him in lurches, in pavement or something. She left him with his father. How much pain it would have taken her to do that.

An abusive marriage breaks a woman. More than physical abuse, emotional abuse does it. Ramnath does emotional abuse. I haven't forgotten how he spoke to Sumo.

I want Shravan to understand his mother, understand why she did what she did and understand his father's true colors. So that he doesn't make the mistake his father did in his relation with Sumo. Because if he oppresses even Sumo wont take it long.

Problem with Ramnath type men is that they don't accept woman as an individual, with her thought process and POVs.

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kavmuks

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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: shruthiravi
@sp I would never want Nirmala to be shown a failed mother. What was Nirmala's motivation of running away. Is it that she couldn't take the oppressive relation anymore. If she had wanted custody of Shravan, Ramnath would have bend every rule in her book to deprive her that. So she decided to let go of Shravan. It is not that she left him in lurches, in pavement or something. She left him with his father. How much pain it would have taken her to do that.
An abusive marriage breaks a woman. More than physical abuse, emotional abuse does it. Ramnath does emotional abuse. I haven't forgotten how he spoke to Sumo.

I want Shravan to understand his mother, understand why she did what she did and understand his father's true colors. So that he doesn't make the mistake his father did in his relation with Sumo. Because if he oppresses even Sumo wont take it long.

Problem with Ramnath type men is that they don't accept woman as an individual, with her thought process and POVs.

I am so so happy to see this post.. After adios entry .. everyone has become Nirmala's dushman strange logics..

If she pursued to meet him or get his custody .. Shravan's life will be hell.. and he was not a small baby.. he was teenager ... and he was with his father who could provide him everything to give a better life. Ramnath was not a womanizer or alcoholic or job less.. he too loved his son too much.

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shruthiravi

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Posted: 9 years ago

@kavum to be frank I am not finding anything wrong with Adi. If he is positive as he is shown and I expect him to be, if an arranged marriage come for a girl, for a guy like that the parents will proceed. Over the period of time a woman like Sumo if she accepts marriage based on what her nanu and elders have planned, will remain loyal to it and work it out also.

If you see Adi, what he accepts most about Suman is her independence. He prefers to keep her independent. He respects her self respect.

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3serialfan40

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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: shruthiravi
@sp I would never want Nirmala to be shown a failed mother. What was Nirmala's motivation of running away. Is it that she couldn't take the oppressive relation anymore. If she had wanted custody of Shravan, Ramnath would have bend every rule in her book to deprive her that. So she decided to let go of Shravan. It is not that she left him in lurches, in pavement or something. She left him with his father. How much pain it would have taken her to do that.
An abusive marriage breaks a woman. More than physical abuse, emotional abuse does it. Ramnath does emotional abuse. I haven't forgotten how he spoke to Sumo.

I want Shravan to understand his mother, understand why she did what she did and understand his father's true colors. So that he doesn't make the mistake his father did in his relation with Sumo. Because if he oppresses even Sumo wont take it long.

Problem with Ramnath type men is that they don't accept woman as an individual, with her thought process and POVs.

i agree with part of what you are saying but not all. Most men, especially those 50 and above have trouble dealing with an independent woman and they make life difficult for the woman - No doubt about it

But Nirmala is a bad mother that cannot be ignored or swept under the carpet, nor should it be changed to make her a sati-savitri! Maybe she followed her heart maybe she did not that's not the issue. However, from everything we know, shravan was a high schooler 16-18 years old when his mom left him. So the part about custody is a little questionable. For someone who is an independent strong and ziddi woman - it seems lame she never tried to get in touch with Shravan since she left! Of course we dont know exactly what happened. but its OK to be a bad mother, every character here is grey that's what is different about EDKV so it will be consistent.

We have had enough of the I am a perfect mother on TV! It would be different and interesting. it would also be nice for Sumo to be wrong - again its ok for a main protagonist to be completely wrong and its ok for a villian (ramnath) to be right, does not excuse his treatment of Nirmala, his black mailing of Sumo etc. but he was a good father a conservative and stupid father by today''s standards. but how many of us know men like that and provide well for their family! how many of us also know in real life - selfish mothers, - when a young woman their insecurity prevents them from giving the husband's family a chance and as they get older their insecurity focuses them on their kids and they will say and do anything to get their way!

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spshastr

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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: shruthiravi
@kavum to be frank I am not finding anything wrong with Adi. If he is positive as he is shown and I expect him to be, if an arranged marriage come for a girl, for a guy like that the parents will proceed. Over the period of time a woman like Sumo if she accepts marriage based on what her nanu and elders have planned, will remain loyal to it and work it out also.
If you see Adi, what he accepts most about Suman is her independence. He prefers to keep her independent. He respects her self respect.

Shru how does he do that? by lying to her?

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shruthiravi

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Posted: 9 years ago

@serial I am only asking to treat Nirmala a human not a Goddess or anything. Just because she left the child she cannot be bad mother. Even that is keeping standards of what a good mother should be. Grey means not bad, grey means being human. Whether that person have it in them to accept their mistakes.

I know enough selfish woman in personal life and as far as I can see Nirmala doesn't belong to that category.

And independent ziddi woman the definition I guess only a person who has travelled the path of being independent in the society will be able to tell.

What would you tell about a girl who had to abort her healthy fetus because she was fed up suffering her husband's and MILs both physical and emotional abuse. She was my reportee. I had seen the girl trying to save her marriage for 3 years suffering mental abuse to the extend I had to send her many times to counseling centre in my office.

Finally for questioning why he didn't accompany her to the doctor, she was asked to stand outside the house in a wintery evening in Bangalore. She was not supposed to question. That was the law in his place. That was the last straw. Girl terminated the pregnancy and got divorce.

So bad mother. I still remember her calling me and crying hysterically I killed my baby, but I had no option. I cant take it any more and I don't want any connection with him.

I will place Nirmala there. Shravan meant connection with Ramnath. She didn't want any connection with Ramnath.

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malika

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Posted: 9 years ago

I agree. This track will not only show that Sumo is no Nirmala but also show that Shravan is no Ramnath. I many a times tried to analyse that how come Shravan turned into such a tender soul despite Ram and Nirmala's upbringing but honestly I feel his nature can be attributed more to his love for Sumo than his upbringing. IN CHILDHOOD HE used to spend his max time with Sumo or at nanu's place. Both Nirmala and Ram were busy with work. So whatever nature or goodness he developed, it has more or less come from Sumo and nanu.So I am sure even he will prove he is no Ram.

Edited by Malika - 9 years ago

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shruthiravi

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Posted: 9 years ago

@sp many people are taking this lying quite seriously. It depends on how you deal with people. Make them feel worthy.

I have a relative. I did something for that uncle and it became a success. They are not very well off people. Still I asked uncle for helping you I need bonda or vada.

Actually he was happy. I can dine in the finest of restaurents, I can eat Indian, Chinese, Mexican anything. I can even take them and go out. My financial status allows.

But then if I tell them what they can afford they will feel worthy. They will feel happy. That uncle got me that immediately also.

And if I have to lie to make someone feel worthy I will do that also. I have done. I take sarees and all without showing bill amount to my relatives during festival times. If they ask me what is the cost, I will tell the budget they expect, but on many occasions I would have spend more. It keeps me happy, it keeps them too happy in 2 way.

If I tell the cost, they will expect more extravagant gifts, which can be misused. Or they will feel they cannot repay me back with equally good gifts. Why the mess.

Some things are done quietly, without telling. It doesn't mean it is wrong. You do it always in managing relations.

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sravanthi vangala

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Posted: 9 years ago

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Originally posted by: kavmuks

I am so so happy to see this post.. After adios entry .. everyone has become Nirmala's dushman strange logics..

If she pursued to meet him or get his custody .. Shravan's life will be hell.. and he was not a small baby.. he was teenager ... and he was with his father who could provide him everything to give a better life. Ramnath was not a womanizer or alcoholic or job less.. he too loved his son too much.

I agree, whatever Ramnath stupid ideology is, he is doing everything for the oppressed love he has for his son, agree it or not the gentleman shravan is today is due to both nirmala and ramnath but I give a little extra credit to ramnath... one this I always observed about shravan is whatever was his attitude towards women he never directly disrespected them and when he did it indirectly like Urvashi case Ramnath tried to correct him...

Ramnath is not a bad man but is a man with bad ideology and strongly believes in it and added to this is his ego. Everyone needs a person to come into their life to prove that their ideology is wrong, and only that day people will realize they are wrong and till then they will feel that they are correct...i strongly feel that the day he realizes that his ideology is wrong he will surely repent and ask for forgiveness, whether he should be forgiven or not is different case.

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