are they serious? - Page 4

Originally posted by: micshy

I tweeted to Namik , Ranjit and Aijaz. Went on a rant.. rest of the CVs i dont know their IDs, but somehow i feel, they only like the good stuff thats sent to them, do not really acknowledge the critism. But lets see...

About Shravan, i m not getting this guy, after being so confident infront of his father, hes again doubting...

Kab sudhorogey Shravan Malhotra 😡 i do have a feeling though that he wont make it as much of an ego issue . Cz hes still caring about her.. not like distancing himself like he fid previously ..

But Pushkar, i mean ..worst ever character assasination.. worst then what ekta n gul khan do

My views are different. The relevance of the scene had certain objectives by the Creative team. It was apparent that Pushkar was praising Preeti and happy at his choice. He was particularly happy at the fact that Preeti was less arguementative and becoming more of a listener. What's wrong with that? Pushkar knows that Preeti is an independent girl who speaks her mind just like her sis, Sumo. In fact, I remember a scene where he mentions that he likes her because she is Sumo's sister. Preeti has always been direct with Pushkar, one of the reasons why he was attracted to her. Their relationship is built on communication. So what MCP are we talking about?

Shravan, on the other hand, had just been given a discourse by his Dad on why he should stay away from independent women. He related that conversation with Pushkar's views, because he is getting influenced!! But, knowing Shravans past and his insecurities, it was not surprising. Am sure, he will turn around and realize that his father was wrong. His trust in Sumo is going to put to test. If Sumo is avoiding him, he would figure out that there is someone/some reason behind it...

I didn't find anything demeaning in this scene (regressive attitude) between two brothers. It was a casual conversation about the younger bro happy that his Preeti is now lending a ear to him and the elder bro drawing a comparison with his love interest, Sumo.


-Rekha

Originally posted by: Travelocity

100% agree with you on what you said about relationship and his lack of trust but it still does not justify tiwaris agreeing to dowry, sumo taking a loan to fulfill that (so much for being independent and strong), nanu just sitting there and agreeing like he lost his mind due to old age. i am sorry but for me this is going against their characters.

So i agree with that... i just sort of hand wave it as a plot device. But yeah the part about Sumo taking a loan to fulfill unreasonable demands was the opposite of self respect for me. Self respect would've been being upfront and saying this is out of our means, either you accept us for who we are or leave it.

yes, for kamini - i get it why she gave that list i.e. to have the marriage cancelled. still shravan thinking men should call the shots and women should be doormats, i get it- it was fed by his dad but he is not a teenager anymore. he is a post grad from oxford - at this age and i am 29 myself, your thoughts are shaped by ur experience, yes ur upbringing and parents have an influence but by this age, we all should have a mind of our own especially the ones who lived abroad and didnt go home for 10 years 😉

So I would agree that most people start to form ideas beyond their parents in adulthood. But I think when we are talking about a traumatized child its different. Most people with childhood trauma tend to repeat their family dynamics in their adult relationships, sabotaging themselves. Like child of an alcoholic marrying an alcoholic etc. By the trauma of being abandoned by his mom, Shravan has likely been stunted emotionally. Aside from Sumo, it doesn't seem like he's had other relationship experience because he basically closed himself off. Also Ramnath opinions would carry a lot more weight than in a normal situation because this is the only person Shravan has been able to trust in.

i was ok with him thinking sorry nahin bola etc.., correlating to his childhood issues with her but more than that was not right. reason i say this is that entertainment industry does influence young minds - look at how many teenagers we have on this forum? they should at least send out the right message. unless they redeem it in next week or so - i have to agree with a lot of members and my friends on this forum that they are losing the plot and the trajectory is going down unfortunatelly like a typical indian show - started off well and then the downward swing begins.

I understand what you are saying about giving off the right message. But I think they will redeem themselves. I just can't see them upholding the idea that women need to be doormats etc.

Originally posted by: Danseuse

My views are different. The relevance of the scene had certain objectives by the Creative team. It was apparent that Pushkar was praising Preeti and happy at his choice. He was particularly happy at the fact that Preeti was less arguementative and becoming more of a listener. What's wrong with that? Pushkar knows that Preeti is an independent girl who speaks her mind just like her sis, Sumo. In fact, I remember a scene where he mentions that he likes her because she is Sumo's sister. Preeti has always been direct with Pushkar, one of the reasons why he was attracted to her. Their relationship is built on communication. So what MCP are we talking about?

Shravan, on the other hand, had just been given a discourse by his Dad on why he should stay away from independent women. He related that conversation with Pushkar's views, because he is getting influenced!! But, knowing Shravans past and his insecurities, it was not surprising. Am sure, he will turn around and realize that his father was wrong. His trust in Sumo is going to put to test. If Sumo is avoiding him, he would figure out that there is someone/some reason behind it...

I didn't find anything demeaning in this scene (regressive attitude) between two brothers. It was a casual conversation about the younger bro happy that his Preeti is now lending a ear to him and the elder bro drawing a comparison with his love interest, Sumo.


-Rekha

Originally posted by: poppinss

I understand your rant. But... positivism usually starts after a little bit of negativity. That said... Shravan is going to think of all that his dad said and measure Sumo and say NO to each and everything...

He needs to prove that to himself before he proves it to his dad. And Shravan was surely not pleased by Pushkar's logic about an ideal wife! The initial emotion of Shravan was disbelief and possibly disgust!

yeap u r right just hate this kind od of male chauvinistic thoughts

Originally posted by: malikakas

I guess I should watch the scene again but Pushkar's words didn't really strike me as "regressive". He's just in love and idealizing his to be wife. I didn't really feel like he was generalizing to what a woman's role in a relationship should be... just that being understanding and cooperative are ideal qualities in a life partner of any gender. I think anyone would appreciate a partner who isn't overly sensitive or ego driven.

Of course in the context of Ramnath's words, Shravan was taking it regressively. I think that is 'somewhat' understandable given his experience with women and Ramnath's influence.

What I am hoping is that Shravan himself will realize is that all those same qualities Pushkar was raving about is also applicable to the male in the relationship too. Putting your ego aside and giving your partner the benefit of the doubt is a quality that is appreciated on both sides. I am feeling very optimistic that they are going to show Shravan doing just that.

@malikakas : Just read your post and agree that we are on the same page. I am also waiting for something positive to happen. Ramnath is so sure he is right and it's about time Shravan proves him wrong. After all, he has to convince his Dad that he is all grown up to take over his business! 😊


-Rekha

Guys education is different for literacy but we usually forget it, even a illiterate can be educated and a literate can be uneducated, Ramnath is a literate but uneducated...

Guys why so much negativity, Pushkar is like Ramnath in many ways, even Ramnath supported Sumo before and as for her achievements he will support her even today but he goes not want such woman in his live and the same is the case with Pushkar, people like them are just literates but not educated... as far as Sharvan is considered, he is been brought up with these leassons and even leassons for others, He is still in the stage of realizing what is what... because life in practical is always different from the book we read... He is now confused, but I'm sure he will take the correct path and so will Pushkar but it will take time.

Originally posted by: Danseuse

My views are different. The relevance of the scene had certain objectives by the Creative team. It was apparent that Pushkar was praising Preeti and happy at his choice. He was particularly happy at the fact that Preeti was less arguementative and becoming more of a listener. What's wrong with that? Pushkar knows that Preeti is an independent girl who speaks her mind just like her sis, Sumo. In fact, I remember a scene where he mentions that he likes her because she is Sumo's sister. Preeti has always been direct with Pushkar, one of the reasons why he was attracted to her. Their relationship is built on communication. So what MCP are we talking about?

Shravan, on the other hand, had just been given a discourse by his Dad on why he should stay away from independent women. He related that conversation with Pushkar's views, because he is getting influenced!! But, knowing Shravans past and his insecurities, it was not surprising. Am sure, he will turn around and realize that his father was wrong. His trust in Sumo is going to put to test. If Sumo is avoiding him, he would figure out that there is someone/some reason behind it...

I didn't find anything demeaning in this scene (regressive attitude) between two brothers. It was a casual conversation about the younger bro happy that his Preeti is now lending a ear to him and the elder bro drawing a comparison with his love interest, Sumo.


-Rekha