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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: poppinss

@Indrani @beagle @spnfan... i get ur point about Nirmala being equally at fault.

As for Sumo being at fault... both hands need to clap to make sound. Shravan could always have walked away from the situation. And I am sure Sumo would not have forced him anymore. Thing is his reaction make the case stronger. Also they are beyond friends... and are extremely close to each other at a deeper level. So some amount of interference is bound to be there. Similar to the khosla track.

Still feel Sumo would not have rashly made Shravan meet N. This is the girl who was keeping his mom away from him at all cost to ensure he does not get upset. Will wait and see how the cvs take it.


But didn't Shravan ask Sumo to never speak about Nirmala ever..he did warn her to stay away from it.Its a huge issue for him. He suffered at the hands of Sumo also but still he went ahead and rebuilt the friendship which must have taken a lot of effort for him. He trusted her again and somewhere its a violation of trust.
M not saying Sumo is wrong but I think yes ,as u said,she could have handled it in a better way..
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: beagleboy

Walked away from the situation, how? I'm fairly certain, as things play out, the chachi will have a hand in the whole expose, but still, how was shravan to walk away from that confrontation. And did Suman allow him to walk away?[/DIV]

They are beyond friends, but nothing has been explicitly expressed yet. And yes, for friendship to move on to the next level, one needs to express it, to sort of 'legalise' it. And, in many ways, they know each other and yet they don't know each other. Time has carved them out into completely different individuals. It has added shades of different colours and marked them differently to what they were as children. Neither has had the time to get acquainted with those differing shades yet. So why jump the gun?

And yes, there was an external force at play to bring the entire drama to its culmination. Sumo may have loaded the gun, but someone else possibly pulled the trigger!



Interesting insight. So do u mean to say that both r right in their own way..?
then what is the way forward..how do they come out of this..bcos right now there is a full stop on Shraman relationship, atleast for the time being.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Beagle... wonderfully put
Sumo's rushing in tantamount to not only a breaching of trust placed upon her by Shrav but a serious flaw in her understanding of the whole situation. Even nanu who must be aware of their problems did not try to intervene. And Sumo without being aware of the complexity of the situation tried to solve the case as it was a mathematical problem. Which unfortunately it isnt. Here, nothing will add up but lead to only subtractions. I must say that Sumo's mind works too simplistically. relationships are not formulas to be pushed or coaxed so as to bring them in line. Also, it is a matter which has grown into a demonic shape in the last ten years. And she believes she can solve it in a jiffy. That is plain stupid for me. And if she had to intervene she could have done in a much better way than what would be shown in this week.
Why do all telly heroineshave to be so stupid?😕

Now, that is a question even God Almighty might find difficult to answer!

I'd also like to add, having pondered on the issue some more (neglecting household duties and children!) - It is not something to force upon an individual no matter how deep your relationship is with that person. Even if you are married, you cannot force your spouse to confront such demons. There are many ways in which you can support your loved one, without being a dramatic know it all. People around her are justified to be angry at her.

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: indranigupta

Beagle... wonderfully put

Sumo's rushing in tantamount to not only a breaching of trust placed upon her by Shrav but a serious flaw in her understanding of the whole situation. Even nanu who must be aware of their problems did not try to intervene. And Sumo without being aware of the complexity of the situation tried to solve the case as it was a mathematical problem. Which unfortunately it isnt. Here, nothing will add up but lead to only subtractions. I must say that Sumo's mind works too simplistically. relationships are not formulas to be pushed or coaxed so as to bring them in line. Also, it is a matter which has grown into a demonic shape in the last ten years. And she believes she can solve it in a jiffy. That is plain stupid for me. And if she had to intervene she could have done in a much better way than what would be shown in this week.
Why do all telly heroines have to be so stupid?😕



Boundaries have been crossed and now there is no going back.
This is the turning point in ShraMan's relationship. Its going to change everything..

So whose fault is it really? or is it no one's fault?(talking about ShraMan)
Then how do they move forward..?I m unable to understand it.. 😕
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: beagleboy

Beagle... wonderfully put

Sumo's rushing in tantamount to not only a breaching of trust placed upon her by Shrav but a serious flaw in her understanding of the whole situation. Even nanu who must be aware of their problems did not try to intervene. And Sumo without being aware of the complexity of the situation tried to solve the case as it was a mathematical problem. Which unfortunately it isnt. Here, nothing will add up but lead to only subtractions. I must say that Sumo's mind works too simplistically. relationships are not formulas to be pushed or coaxed so as to bring them in line. Also, it is a matter which has grown into a demonic shape in the last ten years. And she believes she can solve it in a jiffy. That is plain stupid for me. And if she had to intervene she could have done in a much better way than what would be shown in this week.
Why do all telly heroineshave to be so stupid?😕


Now, that is a question even God Almighty might find difficult to answer!

I'd also like to add, having pondered on the issue some more (neglecting household duties and children!) - It is not something to force upon an individual no matter how deep your relationship is with that person. Even if you are married, you cannot force your spouse to confront such demons. There are many ways in which you can support your loved one, without being a dramatic know it all. People around her are justified to be angry at her.

Word... and here she is for all purposes a third party with limited knowledge of the situation. And whats more few days back they had shown the feedback form she wanted every customer of her to fill it up so that she knows where she is going wrong. And here, she has an explicit feedback form from Shra to not to intervene in his life, particularly with regards to his mom. But, madam fails to read or understand that feedback. Goes full throttle...
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: beagleboy

Now, that is a question even God Almighty might find difficult to answer![/DIV]

I'd also like to add, having pondered on the issue some more (neglecting household duties and children!) - It is not something to force upon an individual no matter how deep your relationship is with that person. Even if you are married, you cannot force your spouse to confront such demons. There are many ways in which you can support your loved one, without being a dramatic know it all. People around her are justified to be angry at her.


She may have been wrong in the way she did things but she did it out of love,to erase the pain. In today's episode she told Nirmala to at least try to sort the difference bcos Shravan was still suffering due to it.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: mineforever


Interesting insight. So do u mean to say that both r right in their own way..?
then what is the way forward..how do they come out of this..bcos right now there is a full stop on Shraman relationship, atleast for the time being.


I mean Suman does not know Shravan well enough to make the decision on his behalf, that he should meet his mother. It is was totally out of the blue. I don't think he knew what hit him. Such unexpected surprises are not very pleasant, and though Suman knows Shravan very well, there are parts of him that stay well hidden from her, that she has not been acquainted with. Similarly, I don't think Shravan knows fully yet, the woman that the girl he knew has evolved into. So, for them to share a deeper bond, they would have to acquaint themselves with each others hidden personas. And even after that, I still think such surprises are best put in the trash folder, as you would do to an email that you have written at the heat of the moment but is terribly wrong and ill-timed with a potential to do more harm than good.

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: beagleboy



I mean Suman does not know Shravan well enough to make the decision on his behalf, that he should meet his mother. It is was totally out of the blue. I don't think he knew what hit him. Such unexpected surprises are not very pleasant, and though Suman knows Shravan very well, there are parts of him that stay well hidden from her, that she has not been acquainted with. Similarly, I don't think Shravan knows fully yet, the woman that the girl he knew has evolved into. So, for them to share a deeper bond, they would have to acquaint themselves with each others hidden personas. And even after that, I still think such surprises are best put in the trash folder, as you would do to an email that you have written at the heat of the moment but is terribly wrong and ill-timed with a potential to do more harm than good.


I get u. Both have changed or evolved a lot from their past persona. They still need to know about each other.
Its a new path for them and they r going to face obstacles and they need to figure out how to resolve them together.
But they r stuck mid way. its more than friendship and progressing towards love but still there is so much to know about each other.
So who do they really love ..the people they r or the people they were..
Should it have been better that they would have confessed love and then slowly Sumo would have started convincing him to talk to his mom or atleast clear the differences..?
I have so many questions..they all have their pros and cons but m not able to find a right answer..
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Posted: 9 years ago
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The serial has reached an interesting stage of unveiling several hidden truth of the past and mend relationships. It's time Shravan knows the issues of the past and he needs to show maturity to talk with his mother or at least listen to her story as well. For me, as a viewer, that would give shape to the character in a very positive way. Ten years ago, he was an awkward teenager, who was influenced by his father, but today he is a smart lawyer and should hav the ability to see thru people. 😃

Kamini (Chachi) is the only person who can play her cards to ensure a major rift between Shravan and Sumo. Sumo is not to blame for anything. She is mature enough to understand Nirmala and Shravan and is not responsible for Nirmala's stay at Tiwari mansion. She has hidden this truth on Nirmala's request only. But, Shravan is likely to misunderstand this, as he trusts Sumo explicitly. Only two people are capable of creating the misunderstanding and they are Ramnath and Kamini. While Ramnath is wary of losing his son, Kamini is wary of losing the business and wealth...

Let's see how the story unfolds...


-Rekha

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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: Danseuse




The serial has reached an interesting stage of unveiling several hidden truth of the past and mend relationships. It's time Shravan knows the issues of the past and he needs to show maturity to talk with his mother or at least listen to her story as well. For me, as a viewer, that would give shape to the character in a very positive way. Ten years ago, he was an awkward teenager, who was influenced by his father, but today he is a smart lawyer and should hav the ability to see thru people. 😃

Kamini (Chachi) is the only person who can play her cards to ensure a major rift between Shravan and Sumo. Sumo is not to blame for anything. She is mature enough to understand Nirmala and Shravan and is not responsible for Nirmala's stay at Tiwari mansion. She has hidden this truth on Nirmala's request only. But, Shravan is likely to misunderstand this, as he trusts Sumo explicitly. Only two people are capable of creating the misunderstanding and they are Ramnath and Kamini. While Ramnath is wary of losing his son, Kamini is wary of losing the business and wealth...

Let's see how the story unfolds...


-Rekha


Yes Shravan needs to battle his past demons b4 he can move forward.U r right about Ramnath and Kamini but this time I think Kamini will play a different game.She wants Shravan out of the house forever and right now Shravan is staying back for his father but if he comes to know the truth about his father's deceit then its going to create a rift between them and Kamini's problem will be solved and in yesterday's episode Kamini said that Ramnath may try to keep Nirmala away from Shravan but she will ensure that Shravan meets his mother..
So I think this time she will be the one mending bridges just so she can use it to her advantage.

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