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Posted: 9 years ago
#51
The full threat treat to read ❤️ loved all their point about on going track now at least I get out of my confusion ..

Sam What an amazing post thank you for this.. This may most interesting track ever on EDKV or the whole Tv world ? coz I never seen something like this in TV our show and CV's always different and made us proud..

I just wish to see some Shravan's mind voice what he feel to seeing this ajeeb Sumo as he said last night.. will he understand suman have feelings for him ok its may next track
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: prc_fan1


I thought of just creating a separate post for this because so many people are asking the same question over & over - why is Shravan flirting with Suman if he friendzoned her? Is he leading her on? Is he trying to get a confession?

So here's my 2 cents & this is strictly my POV. Please feel free to disagree.
NO. HE IS NOT LEADING HER ON. NO HE IS NOT TRYING TO GET HER TO CONFESS. NO HE IS NOT PLAYING MIND GAMES.
HAMARA SHRAVAN MALHOTRA AISA NAHIN HAI.

1. Why did he 'friendzone' her? Does he not love her anymore?

He was immature in the past, & wrote her a love confession, & lost her. He held on to the hurt not just because she betrayed him as a friend in that moment when he needed her, but also because somewhere she rejected him & his love everyday with her belittling remarks. But now, he cannot afford to loose her anymore. He himself said it that despite all the years spent apart, he could never get her out of his life, his mind, his heart. So, he offered her friendship by prioritizing her, over his own desire to want more than just that. And to some extent, even freed her. By freeing her, I mean that he let go of expectations that she could ever love him, or that she has to. So somewhere when he asked for friendship again, it was really a clean slate to start off where it started. As friends. From the first day they became friends, not where they left off a decade ago & this was indicated in the way young ShraMan were juxtaposed with adult ShraMan in the terrace scene. That doesn't mean he doesn't love her anymore. He still does. But he's chosen to give his love the name of friendship..which is why he called friendship sabse khoobsurat ehsaas. If the time comes, he may give up on 'love' but not friendship.. because it is the friendship that binds them together.
Pyaar Dosti Hai never seemed any more apt❤️


Qn 2 : Why is he flirting with her then?

1. He knows the effect he has on women..and when you have a woman you love (regardless of whether she's a friend or whatever) you will if not consciously, very subconsciously try to flirt through your body language.

2. It is part of his charm.. a trait he acquired while growing up to get rid of the traces of his earlier self that she ridiculed. And it comes to him quite naturally. He flirted with Urvashi too. And he's doing the same with Suman, without any intentions.

3. Somewhere also I feel that the gestures we are seeing.. like him going close to her in the kitchen, even though they are real, they are more of an exaggeration of Suman's mind which has Preeta filling it in that he's going to kiss her.. so the scene appears more from her perspective.. if you look at it from Shravan's perspective he's simply being playful & normal like how childhood best friends are.



Qn3: Did Shravan not notice Suman's behaviour?

In the terrace scene, before asking for friendship, Shravan reminded Suman that she's promised him to give him what he wants.. If he is merely asking for friendship, why did he need to emphasise on the promise? Because he's scared.
I think he did notice Suman behaving differently, but I think somewhere he doesn't read too much into it, because he's gone through rejection once & is too scared to go through it again, which is why he chose friendship. Furthermore, its after a decade they've met..they left off as teenagers & now they're adults. So he wants to give it time.


Shravan is not your typical male lead, who goes all out for revenge to get back at the FL & the CVs have time & time again established that. He's a man of character, & his love for her is as pure as white snow. It reminds me of this poem -
"I saw a poor man running madly on the streets on a winter snowing night. His coat was torn, his shoes were holed , his face shone like a brilliant million suns. A strange sparkle in his eyes and even though he was cold, hungry and poor , I saw stars glittering through his soul. Its then that I saw it - he was a man in love."


Please add in your 2 cents.

Cheers,
Samridhi


Agree with each and every word you have written sammy.
I'll admit this; even I thought Shravan was playing mind games and/or testing the waters with all that flirting. But after finally watching friday's epi, I'm convinced that SHRAVAN IS NEITHER PLAYING GAMES NOR LEADING HER OWN.
He's got what he wanted, that is, his childhood bestie. And she's accepted their friendship wholeheartedly and has promised to remain friends forever. And he's content with what he has.
So he's not even thinking of anything else at the moment.This may be his way of guarding his heart from yet another heart break. May be not. But whatever it is, he's not doing it intentionally. PERIOD.

@BOLD Can't agree with you more..👏👏


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Posted: 9 years ago
#53

GREAT TOPIC, Sammy.

I finally got around to posting & realised everyone in bits & pieces said what I wanted to say. So I won't repeat. But I agree with all 3 points of yours. Shravan loves her & it is his love that set her free from all expectations & obligations. How beautiful is it to have a ML not force the FL but rather respect her choice, her life & let her be. She just needs to stand there, & Shravan will take that step towards her like he has always done. And that is despite all the pain she caused him. How can people even think that such a guy would go for revenge? Or that he is trying to do this to get her to confess? No that is not Shravan at all. If he truly wanted her & knew her heart, he would have done so earlier when he lured her into the party. He saw her affected with his little flirting here & there. But even there he didn't cross the line. He stopped at tit for tat, despite loving her then as well. He never blamed her or expect her to love him back.. how mature of him. He is truly a guy who any girl would be lucky to have. And Suman is indeed the lucky one.. she may not have the love & support of her family, but this guy loves her so much that it can make up for all the lack of love in her life. And he too, is lucky because no matter how insensitive she may have been in the past, she won't leave him ever again. These two are truly ek duje ke vaaste. Looking forward to see how all this plays out in the next week. The writers are doing an amazing job on this show.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: munnihyderabad


fab views Sam, concur with them 👏

most of it , I will be rewriting from my yday's reply

1. Why did he 'friendzone' her? Does he not love her anymore?

He loves her much more than before, his love is mature, selfless, grounded, deeper, he keeps his love on a much higher pedestal, it's not diluted with attraction or infatuation as adults, not affected by his new confidence, suave, style or success. Even when he was hurt or angry with her during the party times.. he never touched her as in twisting arms or pushing her to the wall or going all out vengeance on her, his anger is restrained, controlled, he never crossed his line ..what does that say .. though he was angry and despair.. deep down he can not hurt her and this is his character, Shravan Malhotra's character 👏

For any guy with such good looks, success, intelligence , style and suave,... confessing would be an easy way out as he is very well aware of the girl's reaction and the effect he has on girl .. But is that love ?? NO, it's more of physical attraction between them, which is quite natural ..Shravan didn't hang on to that as well .. he didn't propose to her even after knowing her reaction .. but for Shravan that is not love and wouldn't want Suman to accept her love based on those moments and he is not aware of her real feelings which are changed, in these 10 years .

Why did he friendzone her ??

"Aisa ho saktha hain ki tumhein kuch pasand ho aur main na banao " after hearing this if Shravan confessed "I love you " Suman would reciprocate that she loves him...but Shravan would only feel that she loves him because "aisa ho sakta hain ki usse jo pasand hain aur woh na karein ?? " and does shravan want this ?? NO...even after knowing she can do anything for him, he still friendzone'd her, which is nothing but once again, his character

He is giving her the space, he is letting her take the decision, he is not forcing his feelings on her.. ... on the front it might look like Shravan took the lead when he sealed that beautiful ehsaas as "Dosti" but what I see is he is letting her take the lead from there...from where they started, their innocent friendship which they left 10 years back . If Suman wants to be friends for life, he would be,..and this is not being mahaan or being sacrificing. it's just that... "aisa nahin ho sakta ki Suman ko jo pasand hain aur Shravan na karein ..." he didn't say that word.. but it's written all over the place... it has been an unsaid protocol between them.. just like him always being the one to wait back then and even now...here also he would wait for her , without tagging their relation with "love" he is giving her the space and lead to do what she likes...

And how thoughtful and beautiful is that..where a guy doesn't force his love on the girl ...

Qn 2 : Why is he flirting with her then?

This flirting this is just a charm and I think he does it subconsciously without any plan or intention .. more like he is used to it... over the years he has developed this amazing skill set of sweeping women off the floor with his charm .. remember the divorce case where the wife agreed instantly when Shravan spoke to her and also Urvashi and all kitty ladies were just awed by his charm .. which comes to him naturally .. as that is what he lacked back then ... Sumo went to prom night back then with some other guy and not nerdy Shravan who lacked the charm .. but later over years he developed that very skill and made that weakness as his strength and using it when needed .. but his intentions behind using charm or flirting are harmless (or kitty ladies or the client ) and when it comes to Sumo there are no intentions... it's just natural him..may be he enjoys watching his charm work on her ..
True that about Preeta's angle Sam...valid point .. it did play a catalyst role in Suman's reactions .

Qn3: Did Shravan not notice Suman's behaviour?

He knows his effects on Suman.. he noticed her behavior, he knows how she feels with his touch and with his closeness.. but did he equate it to love ?? No, because despite knowing his effect on her and her reactions.. he didn't equate it with love ,,,he is still unsure of the feelings of "love" with in Suman.. he can't ask..either.. if she loves him .. as that would be forcing his love on her in the name of fees.. it could come out as her ehsaan chukaana for the fees .. and Suman would reciprocate it either way .. but Shravan doesn't want any condition, majboori, ehsaan, to seal their love , So lets start this journey from where we stopped 10 years back and it's beautiful !! The respect he has for their bond is beyond beautiful .He didn't let her thoughts verge into the "guilt" misunderstanding or pain of 10 years, took off from where it stopped 10 years back.

once again, great discussion ⭐️


THIS! You should make this as a separate post. 😊
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Absolutely agree with what you have written samridhi.
I shall share my thoughts ...shravan is not planning anything for sure ...we all know what happened when he planned to humiliate her in the party and what came after that..he now knows the real suman ...the lonely , orphan kid ,her vulnerability ...so he will not do anything to hurt her nor force her in to this relationship..

After all they did to each other they cannot take their friendship to next level...trust plays a role ...he knows very well suman will not accept even if he propose why? He lost the trust she had on him after the party ...will suman blindly trust him if he says I love you ? I don't think so...so he realized his mistake and want to forget all that and move on ...so started from where they started in childhood ...Dosti...
Once he gets confidence that suman will not refuse ...he will go a head and propose ...
The journey of friendship has just begin again which will lead to love ...
Apna faisla to sunadiya per kabhi meri majboori ka awaaz suna ...this was said by sumo ...shravan will not force his decision on suman ...he also want her to make decision on her own to face the familities when right time comes...he knows their path isn't easy ...having chachi's there.
Edited by dakshaavi - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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@Munni
I absolutely love your reply. I've seen your replies in TM's posts anytime. You write beautifully. Agree with everything you said.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: shanaaz

We are all assuming that Shravan is in love with Suman and wants to be with her. What if he has not realized yet that he is in love with Suman. When he came back from London, he was pretty mad at her. He was still holding on to the past... maybe that letter he has is not a reminder of Suman or his love for her, but of betrayal and broken heart. Subconsciously, he has strong attraction towards Suman and he knows he is happy when she is. He knows it is love (as a friend) but doesn't think he is in love. Whatever he did on the terrace is actually moving on by forgiving Suman. He has realized that he is happy with her and wants to keep her in his life. He might not be at a point where he wants to spend his life with her. As for flirting, he was flirting with the other girl (he almost got engaged ot her) as well. So maybe that is just his style. Suman might be reading too much into it as she has already realized that he is not just a friend.


I think this story is not just about Suman's realization but also about Shravan realizing that the girl he thinks is his friend is actually his soul mate.






This is a lovely perspective - I liked this point of view
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: dakshaavi

Absolutely agree with what you have written samridhi.

I shall share my thoughts ...shravan is not planning anything for sure ...we all know what happened when he planned to humiliate her in the party and what came after that..he now knows the real suman ...the lonely , orphan kid ,her vulnerability ...so he will not do anything to hurt her nor force her in to this relationship..

After all they did to each other they cannot take their friendship to next level...trust plays a role ...he knows very well suman will not accept even if he propose why? He lost the trust she had on him after the party ...will suman blindly trust him if he says I love you ? I don't think so...so he realized his mistake and want to forget all that and move on ...so started from where they started in childhood ...Dosti...
Once he gets confidence that suman will not refuse ...he will go a head and propose ...
The journey of friendship has just begin again which will lead to love ...
Apna faisla to sunadiya per kabhi meri majboori ka awaaz suna ...this was said by sumo ...shravan will not force his decision on suman ...he also want her to make decision on her own to face the familities when right time comes...he knows their path isn't easy ...having chachi's there.



Agree with everything you said, except bold. I don't think its Suman's loss of trust that stopped him, rather it is Suman's trust in him that stopped him. He didn't want to ask for her love in return of fees. By doing that, he would lose her forever. He would rather be her friend & have her by his side than gain her love & lose her.
Other than that, YES I agree with you. Shravan is truly a man of character who values Suman & her choice as an individual. Its rare to see a ML respect the FL on Indian Telly😳
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Sammy🤗🤗Missed you much
A neat analysis! I don't think he is intentionally friend zoning her but yes,with what he has gone through he is bound to be vary.he wants the relationship to last,pyaar na sahi friend hi sahi or maybe just may be wants to take baby steps*Hoping against hope*
Normally our male leads become cold, mean et al, after a bad past,our Shravu has become cool n flirty # such a tease he is

Now Now,do you think a marriage track will pop out of nowhere?

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: cindrella255

Sammy🤗🤗Missed you much

A neat analysis! I don't think he is intentionally friend zoning her but yes,with what he has gone through he is bound to be vary.he wants the relationship to last,pyaar na sahi friend hi sahi or maybe just may be wants to take baby steps*Hoping against hope*
Normally our male leads become cold, mean et al, after a bad past,our Shravu has become cool n flirty # such a tease he is

Now Now,do you think a marriage track will pop out of nowhere?


SHARMIII 🤗
YOU ARE BACK! YAYYY! Missed you in the AT 😭

NO PLEASE NO MARRIAGE TRACK. Shubh shubh bolo.

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