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Posted: 9 years ago
#41
Susan is younger than shravan so I believe she was 16 or so . In this age people do bachpana and they do things under peer pressure. I am not siding with any one but it happens . Suman was provoked by group of students . Now when shravan insulted her he needs to calm down and look at her with different perspective and not to call bad dimag because now she is a changed person.
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Posted: 9 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: chicksoup


Sometimes that happens, actually.
She might have wanted to apologise...but too many things might have happened too fast for her.
Once she settled her affairs, her guilt would have reduced, compared to her own hardships and it would have looked insignificant compared to what she herself had to go through. This why she was impatient and came out with the bhagode dialogue- because she simply would have dealt with her problems in a diff way.

And Purna did say that she had waited all these years to apologise...

And when he came back, she did twice- once in writing and once verbally too, if I remember right.

Maybe calling him up or connecting over social network would have worked better for him- frankly, I think it is just an excuse for him - he is simply not ready to forgive her.

Suman is not matlabi- the fact that she takes the trouble to make sure the tiffin reaches the kids on time shows how selfless she is now, even when it comes to non- family.


I get your point. But 10 years..isn't that a little too long? And yes, her guilt might have reduced over these years, which totally supports my point that somewhere she did apologize out of convenience because he was in India. Had he not been in India, she wouldn't have apologized to him at all. She has the time to stalk him on FB, but not apologize? I can see that it is an excuse for him to not forgive her, but he did make a very valid point.

Yes, Suman isn't matlabi, but that is when it comes to her family. I feel that somewhere she's always been a little selfish when it came to Shravan. Somewhere, even though she wants to reconcile with him & get her friend back, she does still take Shravan for granted. Esp after the humiliation flashback has been revealed, I can't digest how she could be so normal with him & expect a normal kind of friendship after what she did. Yes, she did try apologizing once, but as soon as he said, he's moved on, she forgot the matter & furthermore, even expected to him to cajole her to come to the party, even though she was the one who said the past was no big deal, & the one who called him a bhagoda. Somewhere, her ego has always come in between their friendship.
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Posted: 9 years ago
#43
I'm a silent reader but posting for the first time, and I agree with you on how they're not equal. I find it amusing that finally there's a show that shows us flawed leads and realistic aspects to their behavior. It's hard to choose who to support and that's what I like about the show. I just gave an exam in my human development class and it was in adolescence and one of the biggest topics was adolescent egocentrism, which young Sumo definitely had (as all adolescents do) what she did at that age was wrong and immature and I do think that she may not be fully aware of that yet, so I'm still waiting for another week or so to pass judgment on her rather than completely berating her. Same for Shravan, up till Friday's episode I was thinking of how childish and wrong he was, but now that the picture is clearer, it makes a lot of sense of what he did.

Sorry haven't had a chance to watch the full episode because my satellite was messing up, but I've sort of gotten the idea of the situation from the posts here.
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Posted: 9 years ago
#44

Originally posted by: Prads

I loved todays episode.

I felt bad for Shravan today..poor guy really lost everything tht day n got shattered wen his only hope, his Sumo humiliated him..he did d same..

Aftr watching todays episode feel tht now they r even

BUT..in coming episodes, v may come across different side of Sumo..till now v hv seen tomboyish, brat Sumo..may b in comin episodes v wl get to c different traits of her n different dynamics of d relation Shravan n Sumo shared back then..which may chng our opinion which is formed aftr todays episode..


WORD, Prads. I loved the episode too. It was beyond all our expectations. We were all in for a pleasant surprise.
The way Sumo walked away without really taking her anger out on him, clearly hinted at a new Sumo we'll get to see, especially in relation to her behaviour with Shravan. Even though they both hurt each other, yesterday's episode clearly indicated that somewhere their anger has calmed down a little, now that they've both given each other a taste of their medicine.
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Posted: 9 years ago
#45

"'Tum kya ho aur main kya hoon'
No Suman, what he did today, was no different from what you did to him a decade ago."

and

"Nonetheless, a valid question raised by Suman. Both of them have been wrong. So what is the difference between them? Is there truly a difference? I think no. "

I wanna give you a BIG FAT HUG FOR THIS 🤗
^Even if I'm totally failing at that hug 😆

Although I don't think the level of humiliation was same, I'd say they're even because Shravan did what he set out to do. Though I see what Suman did to be infinately worse than what Shravan actually did at the party.
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Posted: 9 years ago
#46
What an episode... Suman was wrong, very wrong those ten years back and I get the feeling she hadnt yet realized the gravity of the wrong she committed to Shravan, her nerdy friend. But, then again I am still not convinced about Shravan's gestures... why this need for eye for an eye? He could have gone ahead and told her in the first meeting that your sorry is simply coming out of your guilt not of your understanding for me, the pain that I went through.
And shall I say that I didn't appreciate Pushkar fighting for Sumo on account of the fact that she has changed. Because what Shravan did on that party was to get even with the young Sumo, he is absolutely not concerned with the adult Sumo. And to a certain extent even if Sumo has matured and become a highly balanced person will that change Shravan's attitude in regard to Sumo? How will that lead to hisaab barabar? His pent up anger, hurt has taken the form of getting even with Sumo in every way, so even if Sumo has changed for the better will it be able to rekindle their lost friendship... I am not convinced.
Yesterday's episode was from the perspective of young Shravan, and for me, if Sumo needs to be redeemed it can only be through what young Sumo did after she rejected Shravan as a friend ten years back. Its her growing up years that needs to be focused.
And yes, I do believe Shravan's father has a different shade to him which is yet to be revealed.
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Posted: 9 years ago
#47

Originally posted by: Guruisrocking


Thanks a lot for the compliment.
Even I don't think Suman is in love with Shravan, or for that matter Shravan is in love with her either. Both have been obsessed about the other for different reasons.
Suman has waited to apologize. That feeling has always kept Shravan's presence alive in her life. Hence the continuous FB stalking. And at the risk of angering several people here, I do think that Shravan's being all hot and handsome has aggravated her obsession, and generated an attraction. Its not love. Its an infatuation. And I am not blaming Suman, nor does it mean that she is attracted to him because he is rich and successful (as Shravan said)...I think its in fact very natural for a young girl of Suman's age to be physically attracted to a person as hot as Shravan...nothing wrong absolutely. Also, I have to give it to Suman that she does genuinely want her childhood friend back. She was willing to forget the handsome grown up Shravan who obviously affects her physically, but not the memories of her childhood friend.

As far as Shravan is concerned, he has refused to let go of the hurt and insult that he had suffered 10 years back. In doing so, he has never been able to forget that he had a strong crush on Suman. He has also been stalking Suman on FB. And just like Suman, he is also physically attracted to her (Again, who wouldn't be!). But even for him, its an infatuation, not love.

But right now both are most hung up about their lost friendship. Once they rediscover, love will follow naturally...because they are meant to fall in love...after all the show is called Ek Duje ke Vaaste.


Again, WORD to everything you said. As for Suman's feelings, I completely agree, though I can't say the same for Shravan's feelings. There is nothing indicating that he doesn't love her. Or maybe, its like you said, its just the hurt & his childhood crush that he's holding on to. But then, its a thin line isn't it? How do you draw that distinction? I'm really looking forward to them rediscovering their friendship gradually on a clean slate before they even talk about love.


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Posted: 9 years ago
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Very good post. I am not going to defend either Shravan or Suman because both of them are flawed human beings and made/ are still making their own share of mistakes. This is what is going to make their journey together a very interesting story. However, I really felt Suman's behavior very crass and insensitive. In her place, I would have listened to even a stanger who seemed so disturbed and in problem. And this, was her best friend. She chose to ignore him, make fun of him, fail to be there for him when he needed her the most, and revealed his family secrets which were meant only to be with her to the whole school. It was highly despicable and disgusting sort of behavior. Was this how Suman was when her parents were alive? Did her parents die after Shravan left and after being at the mercy and charity of her Mama and Mami she realized the true value of his friendship? I think Pushkar's conversation with Shravan will tell us when, where, why and how Sumo changed into this newer and matured Suman
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Posted: 9 years ago
#49
Wonderful post Sam. But I don't think they are equal what shravan did Is nothing in front of What sumo did. The pain the hurt he feeled 10 years back is nothing what sumo feeling now. In their young age he knows the rule of their friendship he still went for her she can see how desperate he was to talk to her still she ignored him he was pleasing her, begging her but she still refused to acknowledge him and her friends also not helping how I wish shravan also take their class they have no right to treat people like shit. He asking her to ignore her friends and come with him. Seeing him in that condition any one can melt but sumo seriously. And revealing his family secret and if his mother run off what she will do..omg it was low blow. And when he fell whole school laughing, I can see concern in her face but it's not enough at least humanity ki naathe she should help him. And Shravan and his father scene is emotional and shravan staying ab Bacha kya Hai yaha is really painful. And Suman saying it's her Bachpana no sumo no, your Bachpana maybe cost some one life. You can't get it out saying it's your Bachpana. And I remember she calling him Bhagoda but she also did the same run out of the party. Why age didn't deal an stay in party bit she ran soyshe is Also Bhagoda. Now I want she take responsibility of her mistakes not saying it's her Bachpana.i know I am being harsh on Suman but I can't get the young shravan vulnerable dissolved face out of my mind . Maybe when I will know Suman side of story again then definitely I am going to like her. And I am glad CVS didn't not paint their FL is goddess. She is like any normal girl who makes mistakes and learn from her mistakes come out of a nice human being.
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Posted: 9 years ago
#50

Originally posted by: .SankaDevi.


"'Tum kya ho aur main kya hoon'
No Suman, what he did today, was no different from what you did to him a decade ago."

and

"Nonetheless, a valid question raised by Suman. Both of them have been wrong. So what is the difference between them? Is there truly a difference? I think no. "

I wanna give you a BIG FAT HUG FOR THIS 🤗
^Even if I'm totally failing at that hug 😆

Although I don't think the level of humiliation was same, I'd say they're even because Shravan did what he set out to do. Though I see what Suman did to be infinately worse than what Shravan actually did at the party.


Kriti! 🤗
Oh definitely the level of humiliation was not the same. Suman hit an all time low when she brought in his family matters out in public, something which Shravan never did. That's why Suman's question to him on 'tum kya ho aur main kya hoon' is something she needs to reflect on, more than Shravan. Shravan is well aware of what he is, & what he has become. But Suman needs to look beyond her hurt & her wait, to see what she was, & most importantly what she did to him. Nonetheless, they've both given each other a taste of their medicine & that at least makes them even as most of it is out in the open.
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