Love, Self respect & Ego

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Sorry for the late post! Not gonna write much today..wanna hear from you guys!

Shravan : 'tumhe kya laga..tum mujhe bhag jao kehke apni zindagi se bahar nikaal do gi, bhul jaaogi, par main ab aise nahin bhoolunga.. ab ki baar nahin'

Suman : 'Shravan tum chahe aaj jaise bhi ho, kal jaise bhi ho jao par meri yaadon ka Shravan hamesha waisa hi rahega jaise kal tha aur main use nahin bhool sakti..main tumhe bhool sakti hoon par tumhari yaadon ko nahin'

I just realised that ShraMan constantly oscillate between self-respect & ego. And the line between both is very thin. For Shravan, it has now become a matter of ego that he will not let Suman go, until he's gotten his revenge. Until he's not gotten an eye for an eye, or at least something of that worth. While for Suman, it has now become a matter of self-respect that she cannot let this man who constantly humiliates her, let her continue to do that & she has it in her to move on. And so she will try her best to.

With the show encapsulating the whole 'pyaar VS samman' - meaning love VS self-respect theme, what do you guys think is self-respect? And what is ego? And also are love & self-respect two different notions which are to be pitched against each other?

Would love to hear from everyone :)


Cheers,
Samridhi
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Posted: 9 years ago
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So agree Idhi! They are taking this practically!
Not like those lovey lovey types and all 2hi i love the most in this.

Shravan would'd faced a lot he is doing so. But he knows in the process that he gonna hurt Himself more than Sumo.

And Suman had faced the actual situation where she have somewhere in mind that its going to be okay!
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Soinds a bit heavy to me:).

I would simplify it to hurt hate and love. If Shravan did not care for Suman as deeply as he does he should have moved on. .. afterall is been 10 long years. We tend to forget things with time.

The fact that he had not proves that he wants Sumo back. .. lock stock and barrel. But he has not yet realized that fully.

Anger is a result of hurt. In shravans case he feels that sumo betrayed his trust... His first line of ressoning was that she is a no body and he should move on. Now he is not content with that anymore. .. So he is going to try to hurt her... This to me means that he is not running away from her this time. ..
But we need to see how far he would be able to go before he falls into hos own trap :)

Waiting to see what happened in the past before I pass judgements on eithers role in it.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Wonderful post Sam missed your post yesterday but as u posted now..

I think shravan will get his revenge to insulting sumo.. after that only the real story may being they both may get hurt.

for suman its more her self respect and shravan its ego he can't let his feeling to out or go so he ll try to hurt her.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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I knew this discussion would come up one day!
I enjoyed the episode even though we did not get to see the leads in one frame..some very interesting insights into their characters and a different shade of Shravan we got to see.
I wont say that love and self-respect are two notions pitched together..i dont know really everyone has different definitions of what love is & encompasses..for some people love is respect while for some love is just love, a feeling. What this show is dealing with isnt really love vs self-respect but rather that just because you love someone does not mean you'll be a doormat and let the person treat you as they want. You must stand up for your self-respect as an individual because that is what we all deserve and should command as a human being.
But I definitely know the difference between self-respect & ego. Sometimes Suman is being egoistic & sometimes Shravan..Self-respect is when you stand up for yourself when you've done no wrong. Ego on the other hand is believing that you cannot be wrong and are always right. I also think that sometimes these are dependent on situations. WORD (learnt this word from you😆) on these 2 constantly oscillating between ego and self-respect..as they say every reaction has a reaction and thats exactly what these 2 are all about. They say they moved on but still wait to see each other and they when they come face to face they fume😆 I think this show is also trying to show that difference between self-respect and ego, and how self-respect is worth fighting for but ego is what destroys relationships and causes distances..
that line from the ost 'ja ke zara use bol de chahata jise tu raha,..kahin teri khamoshiyan jeet na jaaye pyaar se..'

I think my thoughts are all over the place..try to make some sense out of it! Going to sleep now..good night!
Edited by WinniethePooh. - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Good Thought provoking post.Self respect and ego are like two sides of coin.both has thin line between them.
Would like to see more thought provoking posts from you😃
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Posted: 9 years ago
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It's very easy to blurr the line between self respect and ego. Shravu's self respect is masked as his ego. Both of them are going back and forth between being egotistical and being respectful of themselves. So it's very hard to say if their actions are rooted in ego or do they stem from self respect.
As far as you questions go Sami I think:

Self- respect is when you respect yourself enough to stand up for yourself. It doesn't have to be standing up for yourself just to prove a point but to understand you have self worth.
Ego for me is being boastful, and undermining the worth of other people, while putting yourself up on a pedestal, and exuding superiority it terms of self esteem over the self esteem of others.

In the context of the show: Sharavn is respecting himself, he is respecting his feelings, his emotions by creating distance between himself and Sumo. His actions stem from both his self respect, and his ego. The problem is when you start respecting yourself too much, and giving weight to only your problems, your pain, self respect can turn into ego. This is exactly what happens to them both.

Shravan is drowning in his own pain. He hasn't been able to let go of it. So naturally specially with regards to Suman, he is reminded of the time when she had insulted him. And when he remembers all that, he is reminded of how worthless he had felt or rather how worthless he was made to feel. Because of this, he always tries to show her he doesn't care, he doesn't give a shit about her. So in the process of allowing himself to protect his self respect, in his efforts to not look weak, he turns egotistical. In simpler words it's a defence mechanism for him.

Suman is drowning in guilt and remorse. She did something she shouldn't have done. And those 10 years and separation from Shravu made her realize her mistake. But now that he is back and he is showing her attitude, her sense of self respect has also gone up. She knows what she did, and she apologized for it. But he still acted nonchalantly.

They don't want to present themselves as weak in front of another, and by doing so they end up acting in a way that seems too selfish and too egotistical

I am sorry if this doesn't make sense at all. I swear it made sense in my head.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Shravan is hiding behind his ego, so as to not be hurt by Suman a second time.
He still loves her and cannot forget her. But, he tries to run away from this fact. He uses his ego to shield and protect himself from his true emotions.

Suman tries to talk to him and resolve their misunderstanding. But she is hitting against a wall that Shravan has build around himself over these years. This guy is not the Shravan that Suman knew, he is a stranger to her. She is frustrated and shouts at him like the old Sumo. The way I see it is that Suman is unhappy with the chasm that has been created between them. Shravan thinks Suman has no feelings for him and that he should take revenge. Infact the past has affected him so much that he is not willing to forgive or forget her. He does not think rationally about what would be going on in her mind. Infact Shravan seems to have become a misogynist, a guy who no more respects women.

Yes he charms the ladies... But does he even mean a word that he uttered? Guess we need to wait and watch.

One thing is clear. Suman is starting to find her spunk around Shravan. She is not going to take his insults lying down, not for self respect. But to clear the wrong notions or set things right between them..

Shravan's every action has Sumo at the center. His plan of revenge is going to surprise him and Sumo. The more close he gets to her the more he will fight to get free 😆

With great love come an even greater heartbreak!
Edited by Chessy - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Good post and good replies/comments guys
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Guys I have nothing to say as the post and replies say everything...
In the show both are fighting for their self respect shravan for the one he lost years back and suman for the one she is thinking that she will lossing today, but in this process they look egoistic... Love the show because it exactly shows how people usually behave unintentionally.

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