As usual a regular discussion post becomes a case of what fans of each ML said in the past.
Folks can everyone for once stick to a point of discussion and not take digs at each other? The post was about not making assumptions about Vyom. If you wanted to point out that we shouldn't make assumptions about Shiv then make it without taking a dig at each other please.
TM your topic was opened with good intentions. Feel free to reopen using both your main post and the post you made on the second page so that it can be about not making an assumption about either Vyom or Shiv.
Regards,
EDT DT