Kabir's Character - Page 7

Originally posted by: -Sanjana-

I definitely understad that it may be a little soon for Kabir to say anything as PK mittal just died and now he suddenly has the whole responsibility of his family on his shoulders. As such, I would prefer it if he just refrained from any kind of "badla" from Pooja at this point. As you mentioned, he already has a lot going on that he needs to straighten out first. So I definitely don't think tashan with Pooja right now is the best idea. Right now, i really want him to just be the bigger person and kind of establish his family somewhere first...get a little bit steady on his feet. This defaming pooja business should be done later if at all...I just think this tashan between Pooja and Kabir is a little too soon...everyone has been through a lot and it just seems as if there's no one has any reaction to any of the proceedings. Kabir didn't question his family, his family doesn't seem that bothered about PK's death...now Kabir is suddenly twisting Pooja's wrist and saving her from Keechad and threatening to publicly defame her...it seems a bit quick and weird... Pooja is trying to instigate Kabir and honestly, it seems to be working. And I didn't want it to be that way, that's all!

@ Bold I agree, I actually liked when he let Pooja pour her anger out when she tried to throw them out of the house and I liked the fact that he tried to calm his dad and his brother. I wanted more patience from him despite Pooja humiliating them but I guess writers are in a hurry to start the tashan!

@Red I honestly think it would be out of character if he does something like this, if we go by his original character, I doubt he would play dirty, I guess dilaogue writers want to create the tashan but as we discussed it they should pay attention to the words they use in their attempt to create shock values as they might be misinterpreted, Kabir has no reason to defame Pooja, yes he can point out when she goes out of limits, for example she had no right to ruin his certificates but he should remain fair and restrain from any bad moves

@Blue I don't want her to instigate him, I know there is only so much that a person can accept, if you keep being humiliated, treated like a beggar, you are bound to feel hurt and snap out at some point of time, in my case there is nothing that can rile me up that my self respect getting hurt, but as you said I also don't want that to happen, I want him to focus on his family, insitigating people is a mind game and you should not give your opponent that satisfaction.

Originally posted by: Lolita30

Wow actually I had Game of Thrones in mind when I talked about that!!! I just hope in the books things turn out to be different, George R.R. Martin should finish the last two books!! I heard once they run out of books, things went downhill

Same here. I was never a fan of the series, but my oh my, the way they messed it up in the last season....I really hope Martin takes into account the emphatic criticism of this season and salvages the books.

It would be sad if he has the same story in mind, because the producers of the show actually into consideration his input while writing the show.

Originally posted by: SRKisLove

Same here. I was never a fan of the series, but my oh my, the way they messed it up in the last season....I really hope Martin takes into account the emphatic criticism of this season and salvages the books.

It would be sad if he has the same story in mind, because the producers of the show actually into consideration his input while writing the show.

Actually even if the ending would be the same, the build up is important to make you relate to it, the dialogues and the point of view of characters matter a lot. Though I honestly feel they undid many things that characters stood for, the inconsistency was glaring!

Originally posted by: Lolita30

@ Bold I agree, I actually liked when he let Pooja pour her anger out when she tried to throw them out of the house and I liked the fact that he tried to calm his dad and his brother. I wanted more patience from him despite Pooja humiliating them but I guess writers are in a hurry to start the tashan!

@Red I honestly think it would be out of character if he does something like this, if we go by his original character, I doubt he would play dirty, I guess dilaogue writers want to create the tashan but as we discussed it they should pay attention to the words they use in their attempt to create shock values as they might be misinterpreted, Kabir has no reason to defame Pooja, yes he can point out when she goes out of limits, for example she had no right to ruin his certificates but he should remain fair and restrain from any bad moves

@Blue I don't want her to instigate him, I know there is only so much that a person can accept, if you keep being humiliated, treated like a beggar, you are bound to feel hurt and snap out at some point of time, in my case there is nothing that can rile me up that my self respect getting hurt, but as you said I also don't want that to happen, I want him to focus on his family, insitigating people is a mind game and you should not give your opponent that satisfaction.

Exactly! I loved when he stayed calm and composed when Pooja was kicking them all out of the house! That's the kind of patience pooja needs right now. She's already like a volcano, waiting to burst at the slightest thing...Kabir can only win with her if he's patient. He needs to show her that not every relationship is based on lies and deception.

Originally posted by: Lolita30

Actually even if the ending would be the same, the build up is important to make you relate to it, the dialogues and the point of view of characters matter a lot. Though I honestly feel they undid many things that characters stood for, the inconsistency was glaring!

Everything you said! The progression of characters is very important, and if a character arc does a 360 degree change or acts for discernible motivation, then the inconsistency is glaring, like you said.

Originally posted by: SRKisLove

Everything you said! The progression of characters is very important, and if a character arc does a 360 degree change or acts for discernible motivation, then the inconsistency is glaring, like you said.

At times it's highly disappointing, because even when you tell yourself it's just fiction and I will only watch objectively and to get entertained, at times you get attached when the writing is good and the story is fascinating and when you grow fond of some character, seeing them getting ruined leaves a bitter taste!

I wonder though if the situation was reversed, I mean if it was Kabir who was wronged by Pooja's family and faked marriage for revenge and broke her sister's heart and threw her family out and then kept humiliating her if she asked for her dadaji's house having a paralyzed grand father and if he has torn her certificates and kept humiliating her, would we have understood it even if her family wronged him!!

Despite everything we say about gender equity and equality, I feel people sympathize with girls more in such situations.

For example if the heroine pushes the hero or slaps him etc people tend to take it less outrageously than when the hero does it, while in my opinion both are wrong, physical and emotional abuse are wrong for both men and women!

If a hero plays with a lady's feelings for whatever reason would be deemed so cheap, here despite Pooja hurting Dhruv who truly loved her even if she thought it was the only way to get into the Mittal family, I think it's taken again less outrageously than if it was a man who did it

Anyways it's just food for thought, might be wrong though

I am neither happy with kabeer nor with janhvi.

Janhvi has taken her revenge , PK is dead , Mittals are on the street so now what ? Let them be and move on with your life. Its not her agenda to make their life hell ?? what's the point , she's unhappy in the process.

She herself deserve a break after everything that has happened.

Kabeer ka to aur bhi samajh nahi aya ! what does he want now ? kis baat ki revenge ? like you said he being an army man should realise how valuable life is. I understand its his responsibility to take care of his family but how can he forgive his family this easily ? like nothing happened ?

I was actually pretty excited for pooja vs kabeer because that's exactly what i wanted since the very first episode but this 'tashan' in the revamp looks out of place.

First the rushed closure to the initial revenge storyline , which is understandable because the makers were pressurized by the channel.

But they could have atleast written the revamp better.

I juat read that dipti had every character has flawed and no one is right then why are we expecting kabir to be right i support pooja for sure but what kabir is doing is not totally wrong which son would leave his family when they are on road would it be morally right for kabir to confront sr mittals that u r wrong we all suffering due to all of your past misdeeds when he can see that his grand father is partly paralyzed his father has died his mother was suffering mental illness his brother is facing betryal and there is good for nothing chachi nd kids like cousins i guess than we would have questioned him morally

His confrontation with pooja are like sudden he goes to pooja he asks something pooja insults him for asking and he looses his temper

About dialouges i dont give that much importance as there were many dialogue said by janhvi which eventually didnt happened

Now coming to tashan i want him to give her a tough time because pooja if not given something to fight for would eventually turn to self destruction

And now the only expectation from cv are that they show pooja's good side for others to mittals as its said from beginning that she is not bad at heart she only hates mittals which they deserve

Originally posted by: shruzzy

I juat read that dipti had every character has flawed and no one is right then why are we expecting kabir to be right i support pooja for sure but what kabir is doing is not totally wrong which son would leave his family when they are on road would it be morally right for kabir to confront sr mittals that u r wrong we all suffering due to all of your past misdeeds when he can see that his grand father is partly paralyzed his father has died his mother was suffering mental illness his brother is facing betryal and there is good for nothing chachi nd kids like cousins i guess than we would have questioned him morally

His confrontation with pooja are like sudden he goes to pooja he asks something pooja insults him for asking and he looses his temper

About dialouges i dont give that much importance as there were many dialogue said by janhvi which eventually didnt happened

Now coming to tashan i want him to give her a tough time because pooja if not given something to fight for would eventually turn to self destruction

And now the only expectation from cv are that they show pooja's good side for others to mittals as its said from beginning that she is not bad at heart she only hates mittals which they deserve

@Bold makes sense, here it is not about Pooja, no one can deny that she suffered a lot, she can neither get back her father nor the years of her childhood where she faced pain and trauma but at the same time while Kabir can try to understand this, he is also faced with the responsibility of his family who are in a poor condition, his priority would obviously be saving his family. In other circumstances he might have confronted his family and even helped Pooja but with Pooja having already taken her revenge, with his father dead, grandfather paralyzed, his mother still recovering from mental illness which Pooja herself caused, and with his big brother heartbroken, he might have felt that Pooja took her revenge and he should rather focus on his broken family too, now don't tell me that if you were in his place your priority would be sending other senior Mittals to jail in such circumstances, I find the fact that he was ready to send PK quite courageous actually and I agree with him because such people are evil and nothing can change them but other senior Mittals while they are to blame for not standing against PK and I still feel the burning of Ashok Sharma's house with the kids a big blooper, I doubt anyone knew the kids were there, otherwise that would make everyone a monster including the people who were watching this and eventually helping in it. No sane person would burn kids for the deeds of their father unless they are pure evil, but this also makes you think of the real world how many innocent children are killed in wars with no fault of them!!! At least had it been soldier against soldier one can understand as soldiers have the choice and they know what they are fighting for but poor civilians including kids find themselves tragged in all this without any fault!!! bottom line no war or revenge has ever been fair, as you always end up somehow hurting innocents.