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Posted: 13 years ago
Today's highlights:

Krishna (Srikanth) explained to Pradhyumna that while he may have defeated Mayasura, Mayasura was still a superior fighter to him, Back @ home, Pradhyumna is reluctant to eat, so Krishna uses some reverse psychology to get him to eat. In the meantime, Mayasura is brooding over his father's latest insult, that he wishes that Pradhyumna were his son instead.

At night, Pradhyumna is practicing, when Krishna observes to him that while Shambara has entrusted him w/ teaching Mayasura, the latter doesn't seem to like him. Pradhyumna tells him that he's in no mood for any conversation. Since he thinks Mayasura is superior, why not teach him? Krishna tells him that Leela & Mohan are superior to him, and Pradhyumna asks him who are they? Krishna tells him to follow him.

They see a girl named Leela filling up a pot of water, putting it on her head, and then smoothly walking back home. Pradhyumna thinks it's an ordinary gal, and is not a fighter, so how is she superior? Krishna hands Pradhyumna an empty pot, gives him the pot and asks him to put it on his head, and go to the well. Pradhyumna is not happy, and accuses him of insulting his capabilities. Krishna asks him to go ahead, and Pradhyumna puts the pot on his head and walks towards the well, but on the way, the pot falls and breaks, and Krishna has a good laugh. Pradhyumna is not amused, and tells him that he was unfamiliar w/ that path. Krishna gives him another pot and asks him to try again. Pradhyumna does, and this time, manages to walk right up to the well. He fills it up, puts it on his head, but while returning, the pot of water falls on the ground, and Krishna again has a good laugh @ his expense 😆 He then invited Pradhyumna to concede, but Pradhyumna was by now more determined to succeed in this attempt.

After a few attempts, Pradhyumna succeeds, and claims that he's no longer inferior to Leela. In response, Krishna blindfolds Pradhyumna and asks him to repeat the exercise. Pradhyumna refuses, saying it's impossible. Krishna points out to him that she is blind. Despite her life being filled w/ darkness, she fulfills her responsibilities. He then asks Pradhyumna whether she wasn't really amazing? He tells Pradhyumna that one who thinks of oneself as superior doesn't try learning anything new, and stagnates as a result. But the one who keeps attempting to become superior one day attains one's goals. Since he was more determined to prove himself to his father, Mayasura was a superior warrior to Pradhyumna, despite losing to him. He explains that Pradhyumna has been gifted w/ strength, intelligence, looks, and that it's up to him to honor those qualities rather than just be vain about them. Pradhyumna understood that he'd need to make a lot more effort into them.

Next day, Shambara is seated w/ Mayasura to eat, but decides to wait for Pradhyumna. Pradhyumna joins them, and Shambara praises him for defeating Mayasura & his friends. Pradhyumna describes Mayasura as a superior warrior, who fought him valiantly, and Shambara notes that Pradhyumna has all the qualities of not just a great fighter, but also a great ruler, and decides to feed him w/ his own hands, making Mayasura even more jealous.

Elsewhere, Krishna is playing his flute, and Narada appears b4 him. He asks Krishna about sending him to Shambara's palace: the relationship b/w them is getting even closer. He is concerned that this relationship could disrupt the purpose of Pradhyumna's mission - the slaying of Shambara. Krishna tells him that no act is w/o meaning, and points to the irony of Shambara, who thought himself immortal, is feeding w/ his own hands his future death. Narada praises Krishna for being alone capable of understanding such leelas.

Shambara asks Pradhyumna whether he's ever gone hunting? Pradhyumna tells him that he wished, but everyone told him he was too young. Shambara told him that the hungry wild animals can attack any time, and asks him whether he'd be afraid? Pradhyumna tells him that when he has his sword in hand, fear fears him. 😆 Shambara was pleased and triumphantly turns towards Mayasura, and demonstrates the contrast b/w him & Pradhyumna. Whereas Mayasura would often make excuses of all sorts to avoid going, the real reason was that he's a coward. However, today, he won't hear any excuses, and would go out w/ both of them hunting. In his place, Krishna smiles @ this turn of events.

Comments: Putting aside that this is all fiction...

I feel for Mayasura - I really do. Shambara is the father of the year. Everything a parent is recommended not to do - belittle his kids in comparison to others, he does precisely that. Poor Mayasura doesn't experience even an iota of love. I don't blame him for hating Pradhyumna. I wonder whether the CVs intend to have him succeed Shambara and be a peaceloving king, or have him killed at some point by Pradhyumna. I sure wish it's the former. In the original story, no mention is made of what happened to Shambara's kingdom.

The Leela episode of balancing the pots - seemed like an echo of the original Karate Kid movies, where Danny is advised on how to wipe a windshield. Here, Pradhyumna makes several attempts to balance the pot, b4 learning that Leela was blind.
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Posted: 13 years ago
Last 2 days:
  • Pradhyumna goes out hunting w/ Shambara & Mayasura. While hunting, a zeppelin shaped weapon is about to fall on Shambara's head, when Pradhyumna dives to save him and gets scratched. Shambara is pleased but tells him that he need not have done it, since he is immortal
  • Shambara tells him that as a reward, he will have him taught all the mayavi warfare by Gurubaba. Pradhyumna later tries to assure Mayasura that he's not out to take his place as his father's successor. Mayasura remains sullen about him
  • Pradhyumna goes home and tells his parents and Krishna about Shambara's offer. Banasura & Bhanumati refuse, since they were pretty scared of Shambara. Krishna too tries to convince them to allow him, but they ask him not to interfere. Pradhyumna sulks and goes indoors and locks the door.
  • Later, Narada wonders how Pradhyumna will get taught mayavi warfare. Krishna decides to resolve the issue by creating another Pradhyumna, whose sole purpose would be to sit @ home w/ Banasura & Bhanumati. At night, he visits their house, gets Pradhyumna out and sends the substitute Pradhyumna in.
  • Pradhyumna asks Krishna why he helped him, and Krishna promises him the answers when he returns. Pradhyumna goes to the Gurubaba's cave, accompanied by Shambara and Mayasura. Gurubaba is livid and refuses to accept Pradhyumna
Today:
  • Banasura however convinces Gurubaba to accept Pradhyumna as his disciple. Pradhyumna and Mayasura both join him as his disciples
  • When Shambara returns to his palace, the shadow of Kaaldoot returns as well.
  • Both learn all the skills there are to learn, and Gurubaba imparts to them his powers. At the end of it all, they are released.
  • Pradhyumna comes back home, but on the way, meets Krishna, and now demands that Krishna keep his promise to tell him everything.
  • Krishna tells him that he is the son of Krishna and Rukmini, and Pradhyumna is angry to hear this. Krishna tries to explain that he was born to slay Shambara, but Pradhyumna refuses to turn against the ruler who had helped raise him. Krishna then explained to Pradhyumna how Shambara had kidnapped him and thrown him into the sea, and how Banasura had retrieved him from a fish. Pradhyumna still refuses to believe him, thinking that Krishna was just using him.
  • In Shambara's palace, his queen while doing an arati of him drops the thali. Shambara slaps her hard, and she falls, and is injured. Mayasura is furious and tells him that enough is enough, and that he would punish him. Shambara is amused @ his new attitude after the training he's received, and invokes an electric bolt that zaps both his wife & son (it was unclear whether they were killed)
  • As Shambara is sitting on his throne, a divine light appears, and he then sees Krishna - the original, regal Krishna. Krishna then disappears, and moments later, Pradhyumna comes in.
Comments:

In yesterday's episode, Krishna creating a substitute Pradhyumna to just stay w/ Bhanumati was really lame. Krishna's style wasn't taking shortcuts, or else, he'd have either participated in the Kurukshetra war himself, or created extra Arjuns and Bhimas to take on all the extra warriors on the Kaurava side. I mean, how would that have been any different from Krishna cloning Pradhyumna for his various needs? He could just as easily have cloned Pradhyumna for Rukmini, no?

Today's episode showed why the imagination of the CVs in conjuring up this track was uncalled for. If and when Pradhyumna kills Shambara, he'd be a real ingrate, and that's the point he was making to Krishna. Also, it's tough for him to believe Krishna now, since the latter has not been straight w/ him. Original story was much cleaner - Pradhyumna being raised by Mayavati, not Krishna or Shambara, and when he was told the story of how he was kidnapped, he went to Shambara's palace, challenged him to a duel and fought & killed him. Nothing even near as convoluted as what they're showing here.

Since they've completed Pradhyumna's education so quickly and told him the truth this early, I'm getting the impression that this track has sucked for them in TRPs, so they're trying to cue thru it. In which case, just as well - let him kill Shambara, and then return to Dwarka.
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Posted: 13 years ago
Even I could not believe what "Shri Krishna"was telling Pradyumn.
I don't think CVs will end this track. I think they will keep showing problems between Pradyumn and Mayasur. They might show this strange relationship in name of "father & son". As far as I know most PHs stretch tracks with kids.
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Posted: 13 years ago
Don't know how to Thank Vrish for writing the summary 😊. I was also planning but didn't feel ANY motivation to do so 😔... The storyline is Sooo Weak!!!!!! 👎🏼



Fridays's ep- Sambharasur appreciating Pradyumna more than Mayasur 😔, Monday- Krishna creating a second Pradyumna to stay at home 🤪, Yesterday- Pradyumna unable to believe in the words of Krishna and protesting 😕 ... Moreover, the 'domestic violence' 😔shown in Sambhara's palace to corrupt the image of Sambharasur (as the creatives have already done in the case of Rukmi, Paundrak and others) - all were EQUALLY Irritating!!!! 😡 😕



I only liked that sequence in Friday's ep where Krishna taught Pradyumna to find motivation from everyone, showing the blind Leela as an example ⭐️. That was definitely a bit meaningful sc 👍🏼 in comparison to the list I have given above 😃...



Truly, this serial is very appropriate for IMAGINE TV. 🤣


Ved Vyas won't be able to recognise his work!!! 😔
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Posted: 13 years ago
^^^ Actually, Pradhyumna doesn't have to meet Banasura/Bhanumati again - Krishna can just leave that imposter w/ them to live happily ever after, while he goes back to Dwarka w/ Rukmini once Shambara is killed. 😈

Oh, the possibilities. 🤣

P.S. I think Moti Sagar, or whoever heads Sagar Pictures had been cursed by Vyasa in one of his past lives to make third rate serials in Kalyug. Sagar responded by saying that the work he'll make a 3rd rate serial of will be Ved Vyasa's 😈 Either that, or this guy was Ashwatthama in his previous life, and is taking revenge on Krishna 🤣
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Posted: 13 years ago
@ Vrish,

So True!!!!!! 🤣 ... Enjoyed the post, more than DBSK itself 😆
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Posted: 13 years ago
Shambara slain, Pradhyumna reunited w/ Rukmini

Today's episode marked the sudden end of this track, w/ Shambara being slain and Pradhyumna reunited w/ Rukmini.

Shambara seeing Krishna sneered @ him, and Krishna told him that he was blindfolded by his arrogance. Shambara responded that it was Krishna who had the blinds over his eyes, and gloated about how he had abducted Pradhyumna right from the middle of Dwarka, and tossed him into the sea, and how he finally killed Pradhyumna when he got hold of him a second time. Pradhyumna overheard all this, and realized that Krishna had told him the truth and his parents had not abandoned him, and his eyes were filled w/ tears. 😭 Shambara told Krishna that he had been planning an invasion of the 3 worlds, but Krishna made his job easier. Shambara was about to attack him, but Pradhyumna shouted @ Shambara and Krishna revealed to Shambara that this was his son.

Shambara and Pradhyumna let out death rays from their hands (no other way to describe this 😆) and they were deadlocked. Shambara then started fleeing, and Pradhyumna chased him. At a certain spot, Shambara tripped & fell, and then he got up and Pradhyumna released a fireball @ him. Shambara disappeared, and reappeared in the skies. Pradhyumna hurled a few fireballs @ him in various positions, but he kept disappearing.

Pradhyumna then recalled Krishna's advice about his anger, and decided not to give way to it. He then called Shambara a coward, and Shambara, stung by that comment, reappeared. Just then, Mayasura too appeared on the scene. Pradhyumna invoked his divine bow & arrow (which was one of those translucent fusion-style iBow and iArrow from Apple 😆) and fired an arrow @ Shambara, and he fell. As he lay dying, Pradhyumna & Mayasura glanced @ each other, and Shambara asked Mayasura to save him. Mayasura however gave him a disgusted look and turned away and left. Shambara was shocked @ his reaction and died. (What did he expect, given how he had treated him?)

Krishna then hugged Pradhyumna, who apologized to him. They then went to Banasura and Bhanumati, and took their leave. Krishna thanked them for looking after Pradhyumna, and they had an emotional separation b4 Krishna left w/ Pradhyumna.

In Dwarka, Rukmini told Jambavati that she felt that Krishna just did what she asked to respect her sentiments, but was unlikely to have found Pradhyumna. Just then, Pradhyumna enters, and addresses her as ma. Krishna follows him, and Rukmini asks him whether he thinks that their kid is one of his leelas 🤣 and that he just pulled in any kid to double as Pradhyumna, since he couldn't possibly be that old. Krishna explained to her how he accelerated Pradhyumna's growth so that he could slay Shambara and come back home soon. Rukmini was overjoyed and hugged Pradhyumna, and Krishna hugged both of them 😳

Comments:

I liked how Krishna tricked Shambara into revealing what he did to Pradhyumna within his earshot, so that Pradhyumna could realize how much Rukmini & Krishna suffered his absence. The fighting special effects were right out of Star Wars 😆 Usual defamation of Shambara - him fleeing Pradhyumna.

Only disappointment I had - I wish they had put some closure to Mayasura by making him the new king, and reconciling him w/ Pradhyumna. Mayasura was understandably bitter, and I was surprised that he didn't attack Pradhyumna, who he hated. If they could make Queen Tara the successor to Paundrak, they could have made Mayasura the successor to Shambara.

Also, given that Krishna created a duplicate Pradhyumna, what did he do w/ him - kill him? He could have left him w/ Banasura and Bhanumati, so that they could have continued life as normal, and raised him in their own traditions as a fisherman.

The re-union was sweet. In the original story, all the womenfolk of the palace recognized Pradhyumna due to his similarity to Krishna, although here, of course, the entire family is gone, and only Jambavati was there today - not even Satyabhama. So to show Rukmini as not recognizing him was ridiculous. But their hugging each other was really sweet. Incidentally, I wish Pradhyumna had been attired properly like Krishna, Balarama et al @ the start of this serial.

Wonder which track comes next, given that I have no idea any more about the stories they're showing.
Edited by .Vrish. - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
Thanks a lot for the update Vrish.

I can't imagine how you and Debipriya are still sticking at it.


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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: .Vrish.


Shambara and Pradhyumna let out death rays from their hands (no other way to describe this 😆) and they were deadlocked.

😆 😆 😆




Pradhyumna invoked his 'divine bow & arrow' (which was one of those translucent fusion-style iBow and iArrow from Apple 😆)

😆 👍🏼




... and fired an arrow @ Shambara, and he fell. As he lay dying, Pradhyumna & Mayasura glanced @ each other, and Shambara asked Mayasura to save him. Mayasura however gave him a disgusted look and turned away and left. Shambara was shocked @ his reaction and died. (What did he expect, given how he had treated him?)

🤣 🤣





In Dwarka, Rukmini told Jambavati that she felt that Krishna just did what she asked to respect her sentiments, but was unlikely to have found Pradhyumna. Just then, Pradhyumna enters, and addresses her as ma. Krishna follows him, and Rukmini asks him whether he thinks that their kid is one of his leelas 🤣 and that he just pulled in any kid to double as Pradhyumna, since he couldn't possibly be that old...

🤪 🤣



Comments:

I liked how Krishna tricked Shambara into revealing what he did to Pradhyumna within his earshot, so that Pradhyumna could realize how much Rukmini & Krishna suffered his absence.

So True!


The fighting special effects were right out of Star Wars 😆

Yes! 😆



Only disappointment I had - I wish they had put some closure to Mayasura by making him the new king, and reconciling him w/ Pradhyumna. Mayasura was understandably bitter, and I was surprised that he didn't attack Pradhyumna, who he hated. If they could make Queen Tara the successor to Paundrak, they could have made Mayasura the successor to Shambara.

Also, given that Krishna created a duplicate Pradhyumna, what did he do w/ him - kill him? He could have left him w/ Banasura and Bhanumati, so that they could have continued life as normal, and raised him in their own traditions as a fisherman.

The re-union was sweet. In the original story, all the womenfolk of the palace recognized Pradhyumna due to his similarity to Krishna, although here, of course, the entire family is gone, and only Jambavati was there today - not even Satyabhama. So to show Rukmini as not recognizing him was ridiculous. But their hugging each other was really sweet. Incidentally, I wish Pradhyumna had been attired properly like Krishna, Balarama et al @ the start of this serial...


Completely Agree with all the three points, I also felt the same while watching the ep. 😊


Wonderful description of the Pradyumna-Sambharasur duel 👍🏼 👏


I am happy that the track has ended 😊.


That second Pradyumna still remains a mystery! 🤣


I liked the boy who acted in the role of Pradyumna and child Krishna ⭐️. He was more Loving 😍 in the role of child Krishna. Here, he showed specific characteristics, which were introduced by the creatives! 😊

Bhanmati and Bhamasur were also Very Very Good!! 👏 👏 👏 DBSK Always gets good actors for such roles! ⭐️




@ Varaali, Credit goes to Vrish for continuing this Thread! 😊

I get motivation to add my comments only after seeing his Ep summary and comments, lol 😆 😆
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: Debipriya





@ Varaali, Credit goes to Vrish for continuing this Thread! 😊

I get motivation to add my comments only after seeing his Ep summary and comments, lol 😆 😆


Vrish,

Are you sure you were not cursed in one of your past lives- that come what may , in Kaliyug, you will be made to watch thrid rate serials produced by Moti Sagar? 🤣

Just Joking...But I seriously admire your fortitude for not just watching but trying to make sense out of it.

So which is the next story they have started to massacre from today?
Edited by varaali - 13 years ago

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