Derisive Pleasure - Page 3

I guess what you say is right about what makes a person push the other to the limits. The lack of respect for the other person is what drives a person on to seek derisive pleasure. I guess that answers the question I had posed as to what makes these individuals tick.

Originally posted by: ginak

I guess what you say is right. The lack of respect for the other person is what drives a person on to seek derisive pleasure. I guess that answers the question I had posed as to what makes these individuals tick.

Hmm... yeah.... I see your point... well when I mentioend the bit about the disdain... it was merely so... and I do not associate it with derisive pleasure... coz I guess.. derisive pleasure I believe is a combined effect of a hollow sense of a superior self combined with a confidence level bordering on obscene and a disdain for everyother mortal , and a complete lack of respect for emotions of those lesser mortals... in view of their own sense of self not to say a self obsessive persona... that cannot look beyond self... and a constant need for prase and glory of self!

ok, i've looked like 3 times over...have i missed the response to my post????

THank you sooo much for the detalied response and for obliging to my request of elaborating on the aspect of mutual respect that seems to lack in the case of Ridhima... I second your thoughts completely and absolutely love the way you have elaborated on all aspects , and may I dare I say I wished to clear the confusion I seem to have introduced in my post...and so here I go...!

Originally posted by: vaarti

Originally posted by: vaarti

ok, i've looked like 3 times over...have i missed the response to my post????

No Aarti, you didnt miss it... it was while typing a response to your reply that I dozed off on my table .... jus woke up to realize... that I hadnt posted it... Jus finished it..Sorry for the confusion dear friend! 😉

wow...........gr8 topic
wa a tough say sarreta.......... it touyches your heart
even u can tke wa u wrote n see 4 urself
weelll i dunno abt others.....but i could feel dat it not jus true 4 ridz buh in our situation or any1 we know....it iz so true
man .........it woz 2 awsum 👏 ......fanx a lot

Sareeta...b/w you, Aarti and Gina, you guys hve brought out the complexities of the human mind beautifully. (My views are repetitive I guess, but here goes...)

As you guys hve mentioned, all of us posssess this trait (disdain for anyone we presume intellectually inferior to us) in varying degrees! What differentiates us from someone who lets this side of their personality dominate the rest of their character is the awareness of this emotion in oneself and the humility/sensibility to hold back & keep our feelings in check!

Gina…taking off from what you said abt some people mercilessly using their hold over others to crush their sense of self…I feel, often in close relationships, the give and take is not equal - the dominant (emotionally!) person often has the upper hand and uses it to his/her advantage! This behavior not only stems from their lack of respect for the other person but also a very subversive trait of human nature - feeding off another's insecurities and the emotional hold they hve over them and getting a high out of it!

Riddhima, with her over inflated sense of self is doing exactly this…that too in a relationship which has barely begun! Imagine what she wud do with Armaan's feelings if he bared all and let her see what she means to him…Anu, this wud be my answer to the question you raised (agree with Sareeta on that completely!!). I think there is nothing more scary, than to reveal your vulnerability to a person, giving them the key to what makes you tick, when you are on totally shaky ground, as Armaan is with Riddhima! She wud use this information to stoke her ego even further and crush his self respect.

It's a different matter that Armaan is a very secure person otherwise, and does not really reveal his vulnerabilities (if any, associated with his family, father…) to anyone. But think of what a person like Riddhima cud do to a more vulnerable person (Atul perhaps – though he doesn't put his emotions on display either, but he wud be internally crushed unlike Armaan). I still feel Atul is safer with Anjali's open disdain (when he tries to reveal too much of his heart to her) than with the complexity called Riddhima....

Armaan definitely has to wait for Riddhima to be emotionally crushed and forced to open her eyes to the reality of what a sham she is – who will do that and how, remains to be seen – for him to reveal the depth of his emotions…

Till then, she can go cavort with all the Mr. Rights in town and have her hopes dashed…

Aarti, Sareeta...i like the diffrentiation you hve drwan out b/w sense of superiority due to inflated ego and inferiority! I (like Sareeta) took a more holistic view and felt they are trying to convice themselves first and in the process others around them!!

@ sareeta....completely agree there!! yes, apart from the two kinds i listed, there definitely exist a third actegory of people who are smug and yet in some chance encounter find that foundation of their complacence is at stake. the fear to rebuild and restore their idea of self is what drives these people to derisive limits of torture.

actually such people are perhaps more dangerous than the types i mentioned earlier, considering that they value their sense of self so much and finding it endangered makes their mind work furiously cruel remedies!!!