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Posted: 15 years ago
#51
First of all i must say it is a well worded topic. Nice post topic maker, based on your POV.
Which incidently is completely contrary to mine, but well difference of opinion is a good thing in this world
So here's my take-
The Basic backbone of the arguments of those who feel Sid and Riddhima were happy is that - They were so okay before Armaan came and that Sid brought Riddhima back to life from her sad deathly state.

And here itself i find the argument totally flawed
1) They were NOT even okay before Armaan came. They had a tumultous few days, they were on the brink of breakdowns every two days, there was Riddhima's subservient attitude towards her husband that No one liked- not even those who supported the marriage- we saw Riddhima being demeaned in the worst way possible, being shoved around , pushed, being screamed at and yet she kept on doing her wifely customs and duties - with the result being well, nothing but misery for both- While Riddhima was absolutely broken , Sid had so many misgivings about the relationship WITHOUT Armaan in the picture- like he said - there was the set thought in his head that - Riddhima ko pharak nahin padtha.

So the very base of the marriage was shaky. and we dont need to even bring in the fact the marriage was a marriage to save honor and NOT out of love

2) My second point-
Do you sacrifice your entire style of living, your though processes, your Lively behaviour, your beliefs, and your self respect ONLY to pay back someone who saved your life?
Sid did a COMMENDABLE job saving riddhima from the abyss of dejection and the time he actually saved her from falling ill was definitely appreciated.
But sadly- that " He saved my life" phrase is the only thing that RIddhima ever said about why she is into this marriage- Did we ever realise how much of an obligation has been forced upon her mind- that she silently takes in even accusations of infidelity by her husband , silently and still tries to reason his behavior- only by saying the next day( Here the Locker Room scene with Armaan) that Her heart says something else but she cannot do what it says cos- -well again the burden of the marriage and the feeling that she will be wronging Sid by ditching him


Not once have we realised that
1) Riddhima is unhappy sad, disheartened, NEVER SMILES
2) Sid is tormented , sad and never smiles
3) Armaan tries to smile tries to bring the couple closer yet he is the one who is the most broken of all

Why , pray , would the marriage suffer despite practically the entire gang of Sanjeevani behind Armaan 's mission.

We need to search for the right answers- Mine being that The marriage was something totally avoidable for everyone involved.
I am sure many people will beg to differ, but then all opinions are welcome!

Phew! Sorry for the long post- but it was quite thought provoking- the questions you asked


Edited by caprigurl - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
#52

Originally posted by: shamil

😆 adi, answering to ur post after a long time🤗
ok, I want to disagree with u here.. She wouldnt have been there not because of her suicide attempt , but becoz she would have been dead long before that had sid not done that 'infamous body heat therapy. I dont know hwther u were watching the show at that time , coz many AR fans had "quit" the show at that time😆. When Armaan left her lying unconcious, she was suffering from hypothermia.Sid was forced to do what he did to save her. There was absolutely no other way. And it was Atul who asked him to do it. So if that body heat therapy was not done on that particular day, that would have been the end of ridhimma. When Armaan came back, he wouldnt have seen her alive.
still have doubts?? please watch this and then decide.
@Fatima- I agree with all ur valid points👏🤗



LOL Heey.

The hypothermia accident, I blame CVs for, not Sid for saving Riddhima. Because he did save her. But then Riddhima ruined it for herself by screaming rape when she knew it wasn't. That led to marriage, and then the suicide attempt - stuck between "omg i love Armaan" & "omg for my parents I should marry Sid" - clearly it was for her parents, since she begged Sid to not reject her 'cause that would defame her family.

If S wasn't there, Shashank would have send someone else to go accompany his daughter. And we all know why Riddhima screamed rape - she disliked Sid, wanted "revenge" and all. If S wasn't there, and someone else, like say, Atul or Abhi conducted the body heat part, then R wouldn't have screamed rape, and no marriage, no trying to commit suicide. And Riddhima would still be there..
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Posted: 15 years ago
#53

Originally posted by: HotMess



LOL Heey.

The hypothermia accident, I blame CVs for, not Sid for saving Riddhima. Because he did save her. But then Riddhima ruined it for herself by screaming rape when she knew it wasn't. That led to marriage, and then the suicide attempt - stuck between "omg i love Armaan" & "omg for my parents I should marry Sid" - clearly it was for her parents, since she begged Sid to not reject her 'cause that would defame her family.

If S wasn't there, Shashank would have send someone else to go accompany his daughter. And we all know why Riddhima screamed rape - she disliked Sid, wanted "revenge" and all. If S wasn't there, and someone else, like say, Atul or Abhi conducted the body heat part, then R wouldn't have screamed rape, and no marriage, no trying to commit suicide. And Riddhima would still be there..



This is an excellent point...I agree totally!!!
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Posted: 15 years ago
#54

Originally posted by: caprigurl

First of all i must say it is a well worded topic. Nice post topic maker, based on your POV.
Which incidently is completely contrary to mine, but well difference of opinion is a good thing in this world
So here's my take-
The Basic backbone of the arguments of those who feel Sid and Riddhima were happy is that - They were so okay before Armaan came and that Sid brought Riddhima back to life from her sad deathly state.

And here itself i find the argument totally flawed
1) They were NOT even okay before Armaan came. They had a tumultous few days, they were on the brink of breakdowns every two days, there was Riddhima's subservient attitude towards her husband that No one liked- not even those who supported the marriage- we saw Riddhima being demeaned in the worst way possible, being shoved around , pushed, being screamed at and yet she kept on doing her wifely customs and duties - with the result being well, nothing but misery for both- While Riddhima was absolutely broken , Sid had so many misgivings about the relationship WITHOUT Armaan in the picture- like he said - there was the set thought in his head that - Riddhima ko pharak nahin padtha.

So the very base of the marriage was shaky. and we dont need to even bring in the fact the marriage was a marriage to save honor and NOT out of love

2) My second point-
Do you sacrifice your entire style of living, your though processes, your Lively behaviour, your beliefs, and your self respect ONLY to pay back someone who saved your life?
Sid did a COMMENDABLE job saving riddhima from the abyss of dejection and the time he actually saved her from falling ill was definitely appreciated.
But sadly- that " He saved my life" phrase is the only thing that RIddhima ever said about why she is into this marriage- Did we ever realise how much of an obligation has been forced upon her mind- that she silently takes in even accusations of infidelity by her husband , silently and still tries to reason his behavior- only by saying the next day( Here the Locker Room scene with Armaan) that Her heart says something else but she cannot do what it says cos- -well again the burden of the marriage and the feeling that she will be wronging Sid by ditching him


Not once have we realised that
1) Riddhima is unhappy sad, disheartened, NEVER SMILES
2) Sid is tormented , sad and never smiles
3) Armaan tries to smile tries to bring the couple closer yet he is the one who is the most broken of all

Why , pray , would the marriage suffer despite practically the entire gang of Sanjeevani behind Armaan 's mission.

We need to search for the right answers- Mine being that The marriage was something totally avoidable for everyone involved.
I am sure many people will beg to differ, but then all opinions are welcome!

Phew! Sorry for the long post- but it was quite thought provoking- the questions you asked




Very good post caprigirl👏👏 Totally agree with the second point👏 Whatever Ridz is doing, she shouldn't do it out of her gratitude.. No one could put it in a better way, I will reply back to this asap😃
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Posted: 15 years ago
#55
I dont deny everything Sid has done for Riddhima. and to be honest when Armaan wasnt there I wasnt totally against Sid and Riddhima together either. Until their marriage since their marriage happened for all the wrong reasons (credit goes to Dr. Shashank). I do believe Riddhima had begun moving on in a sense with Sid, she accepted Armaan wasnt coming back and Sid is a good man. But I also believe its alot easier to move on when the person you love isnt there and all hopes of him returning are gone. But Armaan did come back. He recovered and came home.
Im not saying Riddhima couldnt have fallen for Sid. But with Armaan back and right there, I very honestly feel it is impossible for Riddhima to fall for Sid NOW. Because Armaan is back and with him all those emotions too. If you think of DMG from the begining, the love AR have is so strong, love like that doesnt fade. Esp when you have that person right there.
It not about who save who how many times because I mean riddhima would have died like long long ago back in the vicky days if Armaan hadnt saved her. But thats not the point, who you love doesnt have to do with who saved you. Armaan and Sid are both good men who saved Riddhima, good for them and she shud take self-defense classes. Riddhima didnt fall for Armaan because he saved her from stuff. But i do feel Riddhima feels like she owes her new life to Sid and so she should be with him, which again is the wrong reason to be with someone. And I just feel the SR relationship is so forced. First they get married for Shashank, and then are happy for like a week. Then Armaan comes back, and without Armaan even doing anything, the marriage begins to break. And now one has to admit that Armaan is literally holding this marriage together. Riddhima doesnt want a divorce, neither does Sid, but still they cant seem to make this marrige work. Armaan has to make a big game plan to get them to even talk to eachother. That just goes to show you that this marriage isnt working...which is practical considering this marriage never happened for the right reasons. Like if you think about it if Shashank hadnt ask for the 6 months and if Armaan was trying to get SR together, they would have just gotten divorced.
The whole foundation of SR marriage was that Armaan isnt coming back and so Riddhima has to move on, who better to move on with then Sid. But with Armaan back that foundation is broken and the marriage is bound to break. Its not anyone fault, thats just what happens when you do things for the wrong reasons.
Yes Armaan leaving left Riddhima broken. Her fathers lies left her broken. Sid helps put her back together but I still dont get why that suddenly results in Riddhima should be with Sid. Its not a trade off. The heart wants what it wants, and I truly feel Riddhims heart wants Armaan.
I hope this doesnt offend anyone. And I'd really like to say we all get frustrated, even me and say means things at times. But SR and AR fans admit that you both do it. Both fan groups get carried away with insecurity and say means things.
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Posted: 15 years ago
#56
^^ Woah Karishma. You said things that I didn't even consider. 😳👏

@Ishi, awesome post.
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Posted: 15 years ago
#57
As everyone said
Sid did do a lot for Riddhima
I appreciate what he did
However Was he not the one who got Riddhima in this marriage mess in the first place
Anyways lets forget that
I think what happens in Dmg should not be forced If she loves sid and thinks she can stay with him her whole life and not think about armaan or be affected by him then good
If not then forget society
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Kajenaliya

As everyone said
Sid did do a lot for Riddhima
I appreciate what he did
However Was he not the one who got Riddhima in this marriage mess in the first place
Anyways lets forget that
I think what happens in Dmg should not be forced If she loves sid and thinks she can stay with him her whole life and not think about armaan or be affected by him then good
If not then forget society


agreed....it is high time where Riddhima makes her decision and picks one whether Armaan or Sid......just get it over with....
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Posted: 15 years ago
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very well writen post! i must say but i beg to differ..
first of all i dont think there is a word called "loved" once you love, it can never become loved, no matter how hard you try, and this does not only refer to riddhima but to everybody else..
SR relation being i question here, i agree sid saved her life and gave her support when she was going through the worst phase of her life, he married her because eventually she had begged him to as to save her family's honor! but the question being of her happiness.. was rly SR relation fine even before armaan entered? riddhima tried to work this marriage then by not uttering a word when sid blamed on her intentions of working the marriage.. why? sid had saved her and her family grace by marrying her.. when she had failed the attempt of suicide to get out of the mess
she tried to work the marriage for sid! rather than for herself thinking tht sid would have deserved a much better wife.. thn she is.. loving him and caring for him and she would never be able to give the love he deserved.. so as to keep him happy she smiled for him.. she did every possible to make him feel tht this marriage can work out!
however, she smiled keeping her pain aside just to see the man who saved her life and from getting humiliated infront of the society by denying to marry, in times where she thought she would rather die than to belong to anybody else than armaan.
she admires him, no doubt, and is obliged to stay by him and not just because he is her husband but because of the debt she carries towards him..
do you think it is fair? for riddhima to stay besides him bcos he supprted her..and saved her life?
do you think it is fair for sid? to have a wife who is besides him not out of love but out of an obligation tht he had once saved her life..and supported her? and if she had a chance in her life she would have wished tht sid was never in her life..maybe not!
and today yet, she is so hell bent on making the marriage work, when apparently everybody has confessed at some point tht she loves armaan.. whether be it sid, armaan, shanky or riddhimma her self (indirectly)
she would wrong the one person in life who had save her life and given her hope at a time where she was in darkness.. where there was no relation between them.. and now there is a relation betwn them how can she leave him.. when she is out of the mess? i dont know if you call it obligation or wtv.. but every admiration and gratitude cannot take place of love. she might term it as love in future.. idk but she will never be able to love him with all her heart and soul as she loves armaan
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: megatulipgirl

I understand ur point of view, but tell how come Armaan left rid died. She was just unconcious when Armaan left. And also Armaan didn't left her to die, he left her not to die everyday for him. He was the one who need someone at that time. Even armaan experiance the bitter riddhima. But he make her sweet and happy with his love and affection.

As u mentioned that credit for today's riddhima go to sid. Yes, i agree wid u. But AR fans don't want this riddhima, they want the old lovey-dovey riddhima. We want riddhima who's happiness was always visible through her eyes. She never needed to move her lips to show others that she's happy. And that was the real Riddhima.

This isn't about the time in Panchagani. Its about the time he left her alone before she could recover from the terrorist attack aftermaths. Agreed he left her coz he didn't want her to suffer along with him. But he took that decision so that she could move on in life and so she did. Why are you guys blaming Ridz for marrying Sid? Did Sid force this marriage on her? NO! In fact when Sid wanted to but it was she who begged him to marry her so that her family's reputation couldn't get tarnished. So should she be the one to break this marriage? If she does then what Sid said about her using him will be 200% true. She wanted to marry him for the sake of her parents and now leave him coz her lover returned. No, thats not Riddhima. She might be egoistic, but never selfish to screw another human's life to that extent.
Please don't compare it to Love Aaj Kal scenario. Its drastically different from that and also from that of HDDCS coz Nandani realised her feelings for Vanraj only after she goes to meet Sameer and also Vanraj wasn't aware of her past.
Sid held her hand in her darkest times and thats what really matters. Armaan was there when she lead a normal happy life and true it was he who made her feel like a woman madly in love but it was Sid who gave a new lease of life to her meaningless existence. Maybe she didn't fall head over heels in love with Sid from the word 'GO' but she realised the meaning of marriage. Now you might say that Sid treated her badly after marriage but how can you forget the fact that it was Ridz who was responsible for this? Put yourself in Sid's place and think. How hurt you'll feel? I can say this coz my friend's fiancee ran away with her lover after the engagement. Never for once did she tell him that she loved someone else and then she took off all of a sudden. It took months for my friend to recover. Sorry for going off topic but I felt this scenario was similar.

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