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Posted: 15 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: ka7eela



hmmm..not encouraging adultery!..what about the posts were people demanding AR to make love and some other absurd demands!

even if you say you were against that post!...but dear a married woman being touched, hugged or whatever by another man is considered to be adultery..you liking it means you encouraging adultery!..

ok let's forget for a moment that A, R, S are fictional characters!..what is your reaction if you see a married woman let's say in your neighborhood being touched, hugged or romanced by another man who happens to be a hunk and is her ex?! ..how would you feel about that?!



LMAOO even i want them to make love.. i have read the posts saying that.. the post clearly do not say that AR should make love while she is still married to sid.. i dont think i see a single post saying tht,.. they should as time passes by and IF everything works out in place..

and as per married women am sorry am not tht narrow minded to say that married women cant even hug or touch another person.. and as i said earlier i dont see AR romancing they are just coincidences.. tht they are brought together.. .. you cant blame me for enjoying awkward scenes betn the two
as far as ex lover is concerned in real.. i think trust matters the most more than anything else.. and if the relationship is clear and i trust the person i love i dont think i would mind.. but romancing i dont think will happen if the person loves me and not somebody else..
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Posted: 15 years ago
#22
good question actually.
it is wrong according to indian society for a married woman to be getting intimate with another guy..
so maybe SR should break-up before we get such scenes...otherwise its doesn't seem right.
n as for armaan, well he's not doing anything intentionally..because he wants to go away from SR's married life but at the same time he still loves Riddhima..
so they're all in a pretty messed up situation n they don't know what they're doing..
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Posted: 15 years ago
#23
hey....
you have a nice question here....how do you determine which love is pure and which is not???
i mean everyone has their own perspective and they will feel they are right though others may frown upon them.....
as for AR the scenes between them will all be accidents i'm sure....like the falling in the mud....
armaan has said it once he loves his riddhima but will never make a move on her that would ruin her married life...
riddhima too will avoid him....
but in the end i know come what may they cannot stay away from each other....
i guess that's what they will show in the end that although AR made all attempts to avoid each other they just can't stay away from each other....
love
sumedha
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Posted: 15 years ago
#24

Originally posted by: yattri



LMAOO even i want them to make love.. i have read the posts saying that.. the post clearly do not say that AR should make love while she is still married to sid.. i dont think i see a single post saying tht,.. they should as time passes by and IF everything works out in place..

and as per married women am sorry am not tht narrow minded to say that married women cant even hug or touch another person.. and as i said earlier i dont see AR romancing they are just coincidences.. tht they are brought together.. .. you cant blame me for enjoying awkward scenes betn the two
as far as ex lover is concerned in real.. i think trust matters the most more than anything else.. and if the relationship is clear and i trust the person i love i dont think i would mind.. but romancing i dont think will happen if the person loves me and not somebody else..



wow what an answer!..so you actually enjoy a married woman romancing with her ex!..and about that post of AR making love you go check it again and check all the absurd answers!..before claiming that they wanted her to get divorce first!..!..

excuse me but i couldn't get your point regrding the ex bf!!!..so what are you suggesting here!?..are you saying it's ok for a married woman to be with her ex, like meeting him or hanging out with him?!..and all that matters is trust between her and her hubby!!DUH!..wah kia modern khialat hai?!..but the last time i checked even a modern person feels this is wrong!..which world do you live in anyways?

i don't know how old are you sweets! but ask any boy/man if he agrees with you on this matter?!..in any society such behaviors are forbidden!...

now excuse me so i can go and bang my head with a wall for bothering yet once again to reason out with an AR fan!..
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Edited by ka7eela - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
#25
okay! it was indeed an intriguing topic angel! lets just debate and not critcise. i just want a healthy discussion!
'pure love' according to me is a name , may be an adjective describing what kind of bond people share!
i think when people say love is pure, its when people think that the bond shared between two persons is something unbreakable or deep rooted.
well the term purity can be defined differently in every situation.
for example,
people say armaan's love is pure because he loved her unconditionally, selflessly and accepted riddhima whatever she was.
or do you call love pure had he been selfish or continuously nagging riddhima, disbelieving her every time?
or when riddhima had some issues with armaan regarding muskaan and pari! but ended up being together even after his memory loss
i think everybody is entitled to have different perspectives.
according to my opinion, we call AR love pure because inspite of their break ups, armaan's accident and riddhima's marriage or armaan's exit,their love is still intact!
because problems are faced by every couple
you think sid's love is pure that's why he is selfless and thinks about riddhima's happiness.
but some say otherwise, because his intentions are not pure and he is not selfless as he shows.[my pov]
now is his love not so pure?
i remember sangeeta di making a post 'selfless or selfish love'.
if armaan had not been selfless he and ridz could have lived happily and sid not tried to show his selflessness[my pov] then the divorce wouldn't have happened
so in the end i would like to say[about your question] that pure love has actually no proper definition. people judge it from their perspectives and everybody has different tastes and some match while some do not.
let this topic rest, because everybody's way of thinking is different.
and purity of love is irrespective of anything, living or non living.
mother nature loves human beings. this statement is quite interesting! who is mother? who is nature? what actually we are talking about? nature includes everything, humans, plants, animals, insects!
so whom do we call mother? sometimes leaves me amazed!
and talking about incest, i think its still prevalent. down south and in muslim community. i was actually shocked to hear about it but then as we know that this world is so colourful. everybody has different opinions, lifestyles so we cannot be disgusted because its their way of living. since we have been brought up in different environment, we would be aghast seeing such things.
and here we can not say that its not pure. why? because its unnecessary to think that all people would be alike! same goes the case with homosexuality, animal love.
and animal love is something i love because i truly love nature and its aesthetics and probably to animals .marriage is nothing. they are free from such bonds and i think if something of man marrying dolphin happens, maybe i won't be surprised because exceptions exist!
and everyday we come across something unbelievable!
its weird but possible!

and regarding AR, so here i am at it again. well, i position humans much above the societal norms. i respect my traditions only until they are not hindering someone's happiness.
when armaan was trying to woo riddhima, was too close to her people started bashing him and called it an extra marital affair. but extra marital affair is something not a chance incident but a gradual controlled behaviour.

we tend to call extra marital affairs as they are , when a person deliberately cheats on his or her spouse, knowing that they are wrong.
riddhima melted in armaan;s arms in FE scene because she still loves him. her intentions were not adulterated and she didn't intend to have a close proximity! but it was rather an unconscious reaction.
her heart overpowered her mind but no she got back to her senses. i think she would have not allowed anything to happen, even if sid' mom had not interrupted. this is something we have always seen between the two.
since, the exposure of truth, armaan and riddhima have barely come closer or had any mushy scenes. armaan never touched her and riddhima avoided him.
so no we can't call it an affair, or an insult especially, when sid was also responsible for whatever was happening!
now coming to the precap, i don't find it offensive and i think people are going crazy about it just a simple fact that they are seeing them together again.
so their proximity was circumstantial, not that they really meant to fall on each other!
and again, i must say if they are lost into each other because they love each other. had they not felt aanything, then might someone lock them in a room, nothing will make them come closer!
or have such eyelock sesions. maybe they realise what actually they feel for each other or do they still love each other?
whereas in sid ridz case, why don't we find riddhima melting herself, when sid is so close to her or trying to woo her. or just gaze lovingly at her, inspite of the fact that they are married? what is actually stopping them to come closer?
nothing its just that marriage is not the only and good medium of bringing to two persons close. no marriage can force a person to put a painful end to his or feelings.
if the spouse is not sincere, then i feel that not even physical proximity can touch the strings of their heart and soul!
and maybe if riddhima , though living with armaan, misses sid or actually realise his importance, then even armaan can not stop her.
these chance happenings will only make her realise her feelings and help her decide.
i hope you get my point!
sorry for making such a long post but couldn't help it.
anyways, nice and thoughtful topic!😊


Edited by shihij07 - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
#26
a very interesting and at the same time meaningful question! 😊

well..if you ask me about pure love i cannot actually define it..iam a married girl and i love my husband..we had an arranged marriage though we knew each other before that..and i can say that the love and understanding developed only after the marriage..but i dont really agree with the 'pure' and 'impure' love..if there is any doubt about the purity of love,thats not love actually...love is just love..there is nothing called pure love and fake love..

and regarding the other forms of love like extra marital,incest,homosexuality etc..its a big no for me when it comes to extra marital and incest relationships..about homosexuality i would say thats a personal preference..if a person gets more comfort and pleasure from being with a person of the same sex let it be..also it can happen because of biological reasons too which is beyond our control..but when its about adultery i dont think any reason would justify it..if you are unhappy with your partner,talk it off and get out..why going for backstage activities?you get married to somebody doesnt mean that your life is over and you are going to be a slave forever..but for sure the life of a woman changes much more than that of a man after marriage..maybe iam bit conventional..for me,even the thought of another stranger is aweful once iam married no matter how dear that person was to you before your marriage..again it depends on how people think..iam not talking in terms of cultural and societal values..but there might a group who thinks its still ok to have eye locks and brief intimate sessions or fantasies about other men even after you are married as they consider all these activities are within the limits...but for me,any kind of deviation is not recommended..i wouldnt say its sin..still not good as long as you are in a live relationship...
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Posted: 15 years ago
#27
creative seen a man on top of another man's wife is so wrong and it's absolutely disgusting, whatever message u all trying to send out to us younger generation is wrong because we all....pause.....well must of us here know that a married woman and her Ex on top of each other is so disgusting and unthinkable thing to see and watch.


well not that I am watching it anyway but reading it disgust me.

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Posted: 15 years ago
#28

Originally posted by: ka7eela

they have totally lost it!..i am disgusted of watchinga woman being passed by like a ball between two men!..in one shot she is in her husbands arms..and in another she is being in her ex bf arms!..who keeps drooling over her, imagining her even when he knows that she is someone else's wife!!!! 🤢

this happens coz ridhima lets it happen this character annoys me so much!!😡🤢
all she does is run here and thr 😆
let me clear myself first tht
  • i will never support AR reunion without SR divorce
  • mje kabhi SR ki shadi samajh hee nai ai so i just cant accept it mje yeh shadi hazam hee nai horai especially the drastic change in ridhimas character within one night but then shadi ho hee gai hai tou we should respect it

but tab "morality" religion aur "society" kahan thi jab sid was making ridhima act like she was armans wife for his mom who was clearly not ill. some doctors they r! once again i wud say tht i will never support AR reunion without SR divorce or "make love" for that matter. All i wanna say is dmg k creatives ka dimagh "ghas" charne gaya hai😆

sab chill maro yaar cvs ko kisi hospital bhejo other thn sanjivani take un k dimagh ka ilaaj ho. probably the hospital whr arman got his brain fixed. 😳
btw arman ne acha kiya sanjivani se ilaaj nai karaya nai tou .... shanky hee apne haath saaf kar leta us per😆
Posted: 15 years ago
#29

Originally posted by: Cookies01

So my question is how do you determine which love is pure?


I am no expert but here are my 2 cents:

Love is such a complicated emotion...all the words in the world fail to effectively capture its meaning. And besides, it means something different to everyone anyways.

But love is...just a feeling. And a feeling is the state of your mind at a given moment. How can u decide if a feeling is pure? When you are sad, do u question the purity of your sadness? When you are happy, do u ever stop to think if ur happiness is pure or not? No, because it's just an emotion/feeling...and feelings are just felt. If you thought you shouldn't be feeling a certain way, then does that make it impure? It's the intentions behind that make something pure or impure, not the feelings itself. For example, if someone is in love with a married woman, his feelings are not impure. Perhaps not very healthy but hey, can u really help how you feel? However, if he purposely chooses to seduce her, then his intentions make his feelings impure. Btw, I am not thinking of AR in this example but rather the Keira Knightly story from the movie, Love Actually.

Even though I am partial to SR, I don't think AR love wasn't pure. It's a shame that destiny (lets just leave aside the CVS for the moment and look at this from the story's perspective) separated them.

You mentioned three scenarios/relationships where I feel you question the purity of love.

1. At one point in history, incest was common and widely accepted due to social, cultural, and economic reasons. Nature, however, doesn't seem to favor survival rate of kids from a set of parents with an extremely similar gene pool. There is research that supports the difficulties (like miscarriages) many women in such marriages face. Anyways, over time, the idea has become outdated and taboo. However, if two cousins genuinely fell in love and want to get married, then who am I to decide their happiness? They have the right to live their life on their own terms.

2. Gay/Lesbian Marriages: It's a very controversial issue now only because more people are open to disclosing their sexual affinity publicly. It doesn't mean that gay/lesbian relationships were non-existent. For as long as humanity has been here, these relationships have existed. You only need to look at the sculptures at the Khajuraho Temple in India to know that...why would such erotic images be carved at a temple? I am not asking anyone to change their opinion but to question the beliefs they hold.

3. The Man & the Dolphin: Personally, I find this weird because I would figure you need the consent of the dolphin to get married since marriage is a union between two beings. But again, who am I to say the man's love is impure? Perhaps, his decision to get married befuddles us because marriage in the conventional sense happens between a man and a woman. It doesn't seem natural and yet, there are lots of odd couples in nature too. For example, a horse and a donkey produce a mule. Strange but it happens. Again, who am I to judge as long as the man and the dolphin are happy. 😆

I don't believe in holding someone's happiness to religious and societal rules. However, I do believe in ethics -- in short, a code of right vs. wrong. And I understand everyone has a different philosophy of right and wrong conduct. Personally, I base my values on experiences, logic, and observations rather than religion or society.

Sorry for the long post! I couldn't help myself 😆 But GREAT question!

~Cookie



Now that's what I call a logical answer! I don't care if you are a Sidma fan or an AR fan. I loved your answer! I liked how you didn't take any sides either jodis and basically answered the TM's question on only explaining love's impurity and purity through other valid explainations! Great job! 😉
Posted: 15 years ago
#30

Originally posted by: ka7eela

@uppaas exactly!..if she isn't happy with her husband first she should get a divorce..then she can play with another man!...

but seeing her romancing and being touched by another man while she is married is unacceptable by any society no matter how modern they are!!!..

moreover, i can't get those people who are drooling over it and glorifying it!..this is considered as cheating and as adultery!..

i can't believe their logic!..some of them actually said it's ok because Arman is not her ex!..because they never broke up!!!!!!.what kind of argument is this?..so according to them Arman is still her Bf while she is still Sid's wife!! 😲

they have totally lost it!..i am disgusted of watchinga woman being passed by like a ball between two men!..in one shot she is in her husbands arms..and in another she is being in her ex bf arms!..who keeps drooling over her, imagining her even when he knows that she is someone else's wife!!!! 🤢

Well said! I totally agree with every word my friend here said. 🤗

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