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Posted: 13 years ago
#11
Finally some article pointing the errors in SB.
They initially promoted its against DV and jhanvi's story.
But J/S was not shown to full extent. Either V or R got the track.
CVs finally created a situation Sia can't do anything without R. It weekens Sia's role. Sia has been shown as backboneless woman who always needs someone to guide her. Her own decision always let into more trouble. Till now what the viewers understood, Indian woman can't stand on their own without a male support. Either they should surrender to evil or should seek another man help to win over evil. they are also saying there is no another woman or organisation help for them.
What way its serves theme of Jhanvi's story and DV? it just another story of CVs own imagination. there is no social message.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: suki11

Ok fine CV's didn't want to show an ass-kicking Jhanvi, but they could have shown her out-smarting Viraj. There were always hints she was smart; for instance the time she could have easily beat Viraj at chess. Chess is a mind game, where to some extent you have to be good at fore-planning and strategy, which we all know Viraj excels at. Yet Jhanvi could have won that game, which shows she too is has pretty good mind for scheming too.


I'm glad you brought this up. Yes, Jhanvi has always had little moments where she was shown to be equally smart as Viraj - like chess, for example. I can remember two very clear instances where Viraj and Jhanvi were playing chess, and Jhanvi knew what move to make to defeat him but she was too scared of the results, and ended up purposely losing.

Jhanvi is not some weak little figure that some people make her out to be (well maybe she is now, but she wasn't then). Oh she doesn't have the strength and will to fight Viraj, oh she is not mentally capable to fight Viraj. Oh this and oh that... it's all bullcrap. Jhanvi couldn't do much during the Manali days because of the circumstances she was in, but she was NO WHERE near as scared of Viraj as she is today. At least during Manali days she held her own. She talked back politely but she still had the guts to voice her opinions.

Ever since she arrived in Gurgaon, in a single moment all that was gone - everything. Yeah, she had like two instances where she argued Viraj and claimed she didn't want anything to do with him - still it meant nothing. Why? Because it took her SO LONG to let all those out. She was scared as ever in front of him, and out of nowhere, she gets the guts she lost a long time back and tells him show she feels. And the very next moment, she goes back to fearing him. W*F?

Means crap. Means absolute crap.

And I won't voice my reason anymore as to WHO was behind this. I've spoken enough about the unwanted, don't need to do so anymore.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I agree with the post maker this show was abt jhanvis fight against Domestic violence that was the main concept. And this show was always abt domestic violence people who actully watched it wuld know. And if u still believe it's not than wat abt all the tortures jhanvi indurred from her husband that the proof
And as for raghav people may or may not admit it but he came in as the third character , it was always abt viraaj. No offense intended cauz I loveddd harshad as prem in kdmhmd but Wat I don't get is y There trying to turn it into one of those lovey dovey shows where sume random guy comes in and saves the chick ... It was never suppose to be abt that it suppose to be abt jhanvi fighting aginst dv and helping her psychotic husband
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: mysticgoryfilms

Finally! Finally an article mentions that Jhanvi should have stood up and fought.


This is what many of us have been stressing these past few months: What the heck is Jhanvi doing? Why is she behaving like an idiot? Why the hell does she need Raghav's help? Is she not capable of fighting her own battles?

These are the questions that would race through our minds in a daily basis. And now it is finally mentioned in an article. That means there are people out there who think the same.

A recent article just mentioned that Jhanvi should have been made powerful, she should have been put in "revenge mode". Just like us, even the writer found it odd that Jhanvi couldn't speak up. While in Manali this silence was believable, bowing down to Viraj was believable. However, as soon as she came to Gurgaon, Jhanvi started acting totally ridiculous. She started becoming more frightened and would make foolish decisions despite not being under those circumstances anymore. The article has even pointed out how Raghav needs to fight less. That's one thing I've been screaming out. STOP GIVING RAGHAV SO MUCH IMPORTANCE! This guy sticks his butt in something that is none of his business. He does it constantly, and all I want to do is give him a severe kick on his rear end. It is absolutely ridiculous to see the amount of footage he got in a fight that he has NOTHING to do with. Absolutely ridiculous! It was because of his taking over the fight that Jhanvi was reduced to the background and made to look completely foolish. It was because of him that she became such a pathetic character today. Can't stand this kid at all.

The writer is right. What a horrible message has been sent out to the viewers.

However, now I don't think there is any reason to complain. This show has stopped being about DV ages ago. And people who think otherwise are just fooling themselves. Nothing, absolutely NOTHING relates to the old show and its original message. It has now become ordinary. If the CVs were serious on getting through this DV message, I can name a number of things that shouldn't have occurred these past few months.

So what are we blaming exactly? The show is not about DV anymore, it has stopped being about it months ago. So why am I, or others expecting Jhanvi to fight back still? No she doesn't have to. Just hide behind your knight and shining armor and act like an idiot your entire life. That's the solution to this mess. 🥱


I think it would have been fine for her to take Raghav's help, provided she was the 'master-mind' behind their game plans ... but this never happened. All the 'proactive dialogues' were given to Raghav; which just made her seem like a pawn in his battle. Even things like when they had her standing behind him during confrontations. They should have had her standing next to him, proving they are in it together. They took the 'knight-in-shining armor' thing a bit too far. I wouldn't have minded if he was her 'knight' per say as long as they made both characters at least equally strong. To me now the character strength of the leads in this show proceed in the following order Viraj, Raghav & lastly Jhanvi/Sia. In my opinion the key to any good show is balance of characterizations, plot, good vs. evil & romance (not necessary but sells). Unfortunately balance is what DSDDSB lacks severely. 🤔
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: dsdsb.addict


Even things like when they had her standing behind him during confrontations. They should have had her standing next to him, proving they are in it together.


Yes! I mentioned this too once. Raghav was always standing in front of Jhanvi, when it should have been Jhanvi standing in front of him, or like you said standing together. But Raghav was always at the front. What idiocy! 🥱

Not only that, whenever Jhanvi tried speaking to Viraj in front of Raghav, that man cut her off constantly and would end up confronting Viraj. Are you friggin' serious? Someone tape this guy's mouth, please. Why did Raghav always do the talking? Why couldn't it be Jhanvi for once? She barely got to voice her opinions when that damn Raghav was always with her. SO frustrating! This guy never let her fight her battle on her own. He totally made Jhanvi into a weakling and has now become an unbearable character.

Hate this.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: mysticgoryfilms

Finally! Finally an article mentions that Jhanvi should have stood up and fought.


This is what many of us have been stressing these past few months: What the heck is Jhanvi doing? Why is she behaving like an idiot? Why the hell does she need Raghav's help? Is she not capable of fighting her own battles?

These are the questions that would race through our minds in a daily basis. And now it is finally mentioned in an article. That means there are people out there who think the same.

A recent article just mentioned that Jhanvi should have been made powerful, she should have been put in "revenge mode". Just like us, even the writer found it odd that Jhanvi couldn't speak up. While in Manali this silence was believable, bowing down to Viraj was believable. However, as soon as she came to Gurgaon, Jhanvi started acting totally ridiculous. She started becoming more frightened and would make foolish decisions despite not being under those circumstances anymore. The article has even pointed out how Raghav needs to fight less. That's one thing I've been screaming out. STOP GIVING RAGHAV SO MUCH IMPORTANCE! This guy sticks his butt in something that is none of his business. He does it constantly, and all I want to do is give him a severe kick on his rear end. It is absolutely ridiculous to see the amount of footage he got in a fight that he has NOTHING to do with. Absolutely ridiculous! It was because of his taking over the fight that Jhanvi was reduced to the background and made to look completely foolish. It was because of him that she became such a pathetic character today. Can't stand this kid at all.

The writer is right. What a horrible message has been sent out to the viewers.

However, now I don't think there is any reason to complain. This show has stopped being about DV ages ago. And people who think otherwise are just fooling themselves. Nothing, absolutely NOTHING relates to the old show and its original message. It has now become ordinary. If the CVs were serious on getting through this DV message, I can name a number of things that shouldn't have occurred these past few months.

So what are we blaming exactly? The show is not about DV anymore, it has stopped being about it months ago. So why am I, or others expecting Jhanvi to fight back still? No she doesn't have to. Just hide behind your knight and shining armor and act like an idiot your entire life. That's the solution to this mess. 🥱



@Bold: I'm glad you spelt it out. Raghav entered at the wrong time, appropriated Jahnavi's fight, wooed her (like a young immature teen would), by staring at her all the time, falling all over her as if accidentally, and got an utterly vulnerable DV victim, who has no where to go, end up believing that she has fallen in love with him. In fact, I find the whole thing quite sick.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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^ You know, Critical, I always felt Jhanvi's 'love' for him is of respect. Not exactly romantic love. Also because Raghav will just not stop saying how much he loves her but will never force her etc etc. 🥱 So then Jhanvi suddenly gets this idea she loves him too because he's done so much for her.

Seriously, I wonder if she would have still loved him if Raghav never shoved his 'love' down her throat. 🥱
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Yeah I totally agree with the topic. It should have been Jhanvi's battle. Jhanvi fighting for her freedom from Viraj,learning to come in terms with her abusive past and eventually moving on with her life. Instead they made her completely dependent on Raghav and made him do her bidding. Raghav can be there to motivate her but it should have been ultimately her battle. They made her so dumb that she constantly needs to depend on someone for help. First Dr Komolika, then Awasthis then Raghav. Now they will show her believing in V again and giving him a hug🤢That will only furtherdestroy the credibility of her character(Its been destroyed already I am talking about the remaining bits)

Plus her constant reinforcing that she is Sia not Jhanvi it only shows her lack of self-respect and her own family seems to be encouraging that. Just because her husband abused her doesn't mean that she will go and change her identity. A new name doesn't help if she can not be strong-willed enough to take matters into her own hands and improve her self-esteem. Her behavior clearly shows her lack of self-respect.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: anastasia211092

Plus her constant reinforcing that she is Sia not Jhanvi it only shows her lack of self-respect and her own family seems to be encouraging that. Just because her husband abused her doesn't mean that she will go and change her identity. A new name doesn't help if she can not be strong-willed enough to take matters into her own hands and improve her self-esteem. Her behavior clearly shows her lack of self-respect.


I would have been completely fine with her new name if only it was used as a way to escape Viraj, so that he doesn't find her. But then she actually started becoming intolerable giving her 'I'm Sia not Jhanvi' crap. W*F? You're JHANVI. No matter how much you deny this fact you ARE Jhanvi. So stop being an idiot and accept it already. 🥱

Her family started calling her Jhanvi again after their little idiocy but it is annoying how they're encouraging this crap. Especially when they already have a daughter named Sia! The CVs can hide/vanish her all they want, but as per the characters, Jhanvi's parents know they have a daughter named Sia and Jhanvi knows she has a sister named Sia. Geez! What great lengths these CVs took to show their fake rehash of Ramayan. 🤢
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Atlast some article mentioned this important flaw of J.If the show is really about dv then should have showed her fighting her own battle.The day that promo of R ENTRY aired and it clearly showed cvs intention of FAIRY TALE STORY where the hero will fight and save the heroine from the monster which in reality dont happen much. Yes dv victims do second chance and live life once gain BUT NOT THE WAY CVS R SHOWING .U run away from ur abuser by faking ur death and at crossroad ur hero will waiting to save u,he will fall for u in just 2-3 meeting by seeing ur fear and pain in eyes🥱
They could have showed J interaction with other dv victims at ashram and gaining strength but no they have show R as the only source of inspiration😵.Later she fought to show others but not for herself.
The never showed any realistic and legal way to get out of a abusive relationship. Their main aim is to show a monster and fairlytale couple thats it.

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