Article reinforces it's Jhanvi's fight not Raghav'

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Finally! Finally an article mentions that Jhanvi should have stood up and fought.

This is what many of us have been stressing these past few months: What the heck is Jhanvi doing? Why is she behaving like an idiot? Why the hell does she need Raghav's help? Is she not capable of fighting her own battles?

These are the questions that would race through our minds in a daily basis. And now it is finally mentioned in an article. That means there are people out there who think the same.

A recent article just mentioned that Jhanvi should have been made powerful, she should have been put in "revenge mode". Just like us, even the writer found it odd that Jhanvi couldn't speak up. While in Manali this silence was believable, bowing down to Viraj was believable. However, as soon as she came to Gurgaon, Jhanvi started acting totally ridiculous. She started becoming more frightened and would make foolish decisions despite not being under those circumstances anymore. The article has even pointed out how Raghav needs to fight less. That's one thing I've been screaming out. STOP GIVING RAGHAV SO MUCH IMPORTANCE! This guy sticks his butt in something that is none of his business. He does it constantly, and all I want to do is give him a severe kick on his rear end. It is absolutely ridiculous to see the amount of footage he got in a fight that he has NOTHING to do with. Absolutely ridiculous! It was because of his taking over the fight that Jhanvi was reduced to the background and made to look completely foolish. It was because of him that she became such a pathetic character today. Can't stand this kid at all.

The writer is right. What a horrible message has been sent out to the viewers.

However, now I don't think there is any reason to complain. This show has stopped being about DV ages ago. And people who think otherwise are just fooling themselves. Nothing, absolutely NOTHING relates to the old show and its original message. It has now become ordinary. If the CVs were serious on getting through this DV message, I can name a number of things that shouldn't have occurred these past few months.

So what are we blaming exactly? The show is not about DV anymore, it has stopped being about it months ago. So why am I, or others expecting Jhanvi to fight back still? No she doesn't have to. Just hide behind your knight and shining armor and act like an idiot your entire life. That's the solution to this mess. 🄱
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Word mystic. It's something many had stated. They showed her going to the Aswathis, then being a victim again. This leads the way for Raghav to indirectly lead her to the Ashram. From the Ashram it still is more about Raghav and Krish. Connecting with Krish, and in turn connecting with Raghav. Then she becomes the governess to Krish because the family is rich and runs the Ashram.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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As for not being about DV anymore. I've said it over and over. When was this show really about DV? This was just a glamorized OTT show which they then decided to market as a social message against DV.

I mean Anshuman Sinha called the show a post marriage dark love story even back when he was the writer.

And people are complaining now? Blaming it all on KVB now? It's all KVB and the channel? Bullshit!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Lol she has already won it once with Raghav's help and even now he will be her support because she loves him and he is her strength she herself has admitted it many times. The kind of woman she was shown to be from beginning she was incapable of fighting her own battle because she was always shown as a weak woman ... Raghav made her realize her potential and the strength he gave her will always be a part of her now, no matter what so Raghav will always be with her, in her strength, he made who shie is today hence it will always be Raghav and Sia's fight!!! Thats how they showed the story and thats how it makes sense and I think article clearly mentioned this too šŸ‘šŸ¼ and no one can change it ... because the role raghav has played Sia has admitted to it several times and it can't be undone ever!!! What Raghav has taught her is what has enabled her to fight this battle ... and in future too it is that strength that will enable her to keep fighting, if today she is able to fight it only because of that and that is why she said yesterday what she did ... "jin ney ye zindagi di hey uss key liye agar zindagi chali bhi jaey tou parwa nahi"

Anyways am done writing my POV so out of here ... app loag lagey raho
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Soaps1

Lol she has already won it once with Raghav's help and even now he will be her support because she loves him and he is her strength she herself has admitted it many times. The kind of woman she was shown to be from beginning she was incapable of fighting her own battle because she was always shown as a weak woman ... Raghav made her realize her potential and the strength he gave her will always be a part of her now, no matter what so Raghav will always be with her, in her strength, he made who shie is today hence it will always be Raghav and Sia's fight!!! Thats how they showed the story and thats how it makes sense and I think article clearly mentioned this too šŸ‘šŸ¼ and no one can change it ... because the role raghav has played Sia has admitted to it several times and it can't be undone ever!!!

Anyways am done writing my POV so out of here ... app loag lagey raho



@bold: Didn't I say the same thing? šŸ˜• She was incapable of fighting in the beginning because of the circumstances she was in. Thanks for reiterating my thoughts.

Funny how you're calling Raghav just a "help" and "support". If he was only "supporting" her he wouldn't gain full attention in this fight. Jhanvi was reduced to the background and Raghav was made to be this super 'smart' person who would tackle Viraj all by himself. And Jhanvi? All she can do was ask if the plan would work or not. Ridiculous! 🄱

He's not just a help. If he was none of us would have had a problem with him just 'helping' her. The problem lies in the fact that he took over from Jhanvi. And it somehow became his fight, pathetic!

And how does it make sense that just because Raghav helped Jhanvi it's become his fight as well? How does that even make sense? I didn't know Raghav was also getting abused by Viraj, locked in a room full of cockroaches, forced to eat flowers. Didn't know that at all. 🤣

It's only become his fight as well because Viraj attacked his family too (but then again, that's a whole separate fight. Nothing to do with JHANVI's fight). Once again showing how this was all done to accommodate Raghav into this fight.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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It's amazing how much Jhanvi ki Kahani comes up again and again. Like a whole bunch of serials aren't called insert female lead ki Kahani.

No one's arguing that they haven't been more skewed on this show, but it happens to some extent in many shows.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: likarsh

It's amazing how much Jhanvi ki Kahani comes up again and again. Like a whole bunch of serials aren't called insert female lead ki Kahani.


No one's arguing that they haven't been more skewed on this show, but it happens to some extent in many shows.


I could never understand the fuss over that line either. There's been thousands of shows where it was said or portrayed as Someone's Kahani, but did the serial actually succeed in showing that throughout it's duration? Absolutely not. šŸ˜•

Oh but we're talking about Viraj here, Lik. I gaurantee you if it wasn't Viraj but anyone else, there wouldn't have been much fuss over this 'kahani'. 🄱
Edited by mysticgoryfilms - 13 years ago
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posted something similar in another thread, edited it to fit this postšŸ˜† (too tired to write long essaysšŸ˜†)
The show started off fantastically well, with a mission to give women the strength to tackle an abusive relationship. And it had a touch of reality in it. People felt for Jhanvi, and the creatives did a fantastic job in demonstrating domestic violence in a real way despite it being a fictional show. (Well done to KVB for portraying a pyscho man, and the actress for protraying a vunerable victim).
My understanding was, she will get justice eventually, and it will occur through her own independence. I wanted cvs to build her character to demonstrate a stronger woman( so that those under Jhanvi's circumstances in real life, would be able to see that you can do something about being abused.)
But then cvs started to lose focus, they decided to bring in a new love interest (Prince sees Princess in distress and decides to help- which i wasnt happy about, because like i said i wanted a strong and independent Jhanvi, with the message to society being a woman alone can stand against domestic violence, as long as the justice system serves to protect her.
This was always Jhanvi's fight, but then it became Raghav +Family and Jhanvi oups Sia's fightšŸ˜• and not to mention the constant stupidity of evil winning and the victim is too busy keeping her mouth shut :S
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I'm glad I'm not the only one, not happy with this whole 'damsel in distress' runt Jhanvi/Sia is in. It really bugs me that she is still such a weak character, who can only cry and lament at the torture Viraj has put her through.

The only inspirational things Jhanvi/Sia has done were leaving Viraj, and finally publicly outing him as the abusive, cruel and sick man he is.

Even then her 'big' reveal came too late for me, when you consider that she had dozens of opportunities, and reasons to open her mouth a lot sooner.

Also although I have no issue with Raghav supporting her and aiding her against Viraj, I've hated the way he's taken charge and become the 'knight in shining armor'.

I've said it before and I'll say it again CV's started off well with Raghav by showing him as someone who wanted to make Jhanvi strong and independent; but the moment he fell in love with her, his character took a drastic U-turn for the worse.

Has anyone ever watched the film Dushman where Kajol plays a dual role of twin sisters Naina and Sonia? It's the film where the excellently portrayed sociopathic villain Gopal, rapes and murders Sonia.

Her sister Naina then goes into revenge mode, and decides to get justice the vigilante way when Gopal cleverly evades justice through legal means.

In her quest Naina encounters Suraj (Sanjay Dutt), who is a retired blind army Major, who she finally convinces to train her, both mentally and physically.

Now the reason I'm bringing up this film is because of how the rista between Suraj and Naina builds up, and how Suraj becomes her 'savior'. You see initially Suraj saved Naina, from a dire situation, and when she laments about how being a woman hindering her from defending herself he in turn blasts her. He snapped that she 'having all five of senses couldn't take care of herself whilst he not having the sense of sight still managed to save both himself and her'.

Suraj later whilst training her taught her that if 'you don't help yourself then how can you expect anyone else to?'

Finally in due course he does fall in love with her after respecting how much she has learnt from him, but when he tries to take over and fight Gopal, Naina refuses to let him. She reminds him 'not to fight her battles as this was war, as it was her sister who had died at the hands of Gopal, so it was her right to defeat him'.

At the end Suraj tries to help her but is hurt badly by Gopal, and finally a terrified Naina has to face Gopal herself and succeeds in killing him in self-defense.

So in fact Suraj ended up being Naina's 'savior' not because he saved her from the villain, but because he saved her from herself, and her despair. He taught her that sometimes in life you can't wait for a hero; sometimes you have to be your own damn hero.

Any way my point is I just wish we could have some Raghav/Jhanvi scenes where rather than him doing all the fighting and thinking, he rather teaches her to defend herself. Would a 'Dushman' style scenario have been such a bad thing to show?

Ok fine CV's didn't want to show an ass-kicking Jhanvi, but they could have shown her out-smarting Viraj. There were always hints she was smart; for instance the time she could have easily beat Viraj at chess. Chess is a mind game, where to some extent you have to be good at fore-planning and strategy, which we all know Viraj excels at. Yet Jhanvi could have won that game, which shows she too is has pretty good mind for scheming too.

So why have the CV's never shown her having an ultimate battle of minds and wits with Viraj?

Honestly IMO I think I would have preferred it if rather than building up Raghav as Viraj's 'equal', CV's had focused on turning Jhanvi into Viraj's match and more.

As personally I would have found that a lot more of an inspiring and motivating tale then the usual fare 'of the prince saves the princess and they both lived happily ever after'

Hmm how about just for once the princess saves herself, and made her own 'happily ever after'?

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Suki11 :D The quoted passage from your long jawabšŸ˜† is precisely my thinking too. @RED Thank you, why waste time on another character when you have been given a platform, to help women in abusive relationship. They could have used this opportunity to ensure atleast some women having seen Jhanvi's strong nature take actions in their own lives. @BLUE... thats what they should have shown, because in real life, not everyone has prince coming to save them. They have to take that step all by themseleves and fight the wraths of society to live a happily ever after life, having got rid of their abusive partners. They started off on realistic path but ended up in a world of complete fiction with no resemblance to reality.*I would have preferred it if rather than building up Raghav as Viraj's 'equal', CV's had focused on Turning Jhanvi into Viraj's match and more.As personally I would have that a lot more of an inspiring and motivating tale then the usual tale 'of the prince saves the princess and they both lived happily ever after' Hmm how about just for once the princess saves herself, and made her own 'happily ever after'?*
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