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Posted: 13 years ago

#21

Originally posted by: Saraella
I dont understand one thing. why is everyone thinking that V will turn positive??? Was it mention in the episode?

Sara, others might feel that articles have hinted toward it, but I've based the assumption on my own observations from recent episodes. For one thing, Malhotra's comment on V. Yeah sure, maybe I'm reading too much into. That's a possibility. But when it comes to this show, I've learnt not to ignore even the most random lines.

We've been force-fed redemption tracks in the past, and with this new leap coming up, plus the writers strange obsession with constantly attempting to make V gray when he's all black and evil -- well, it wouldn't surprise me if they went for another redemption track.

One thing is certain: The leap is in favor of V, no one else. If this was Jahnvi ki kahani, I doubt that the writers would skip seven years of her journey, fast forwarding to when V is coming out of prison.

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381490

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Posted: 13 years ago

#22

Originally posted by: ummesulaiman

I'm also among those who don't want a leap...I wonder why they chose 7 years. Why not 6 months...or even a year?

If the CVs want to put Viraj away in jail for 7 years...and then have him come back to try and interfere in Sia's life again...I can live with that...every show needs a villain...but then let's call him and leave him as what he is...a Villain.

The seven year leap is because that's how long V will be in prison and the writers refuse to allow Sia to have a life separate of V, tracks that overpower V or exclude V for a while.

You know, villains have a stronger impact when they disappear for a while and then make their way back. V is constantly there, in every single episode. He has so much power in the narrative that now there'll be a 7-year leap for his character's sake, because they can't at least give us three months without him meddling in Sia's life.

This is why the show got insufferable for me at one point. Because there was no lightness to balance out the darkness. There was no light phase, excluding V completely, where you just got to see the other characters grow and their interaction. Actually, I used to look forward to V's scenes once upon a long time ago -- and now I just want a break from him.

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Goldstar7

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Posted: 13 years ago

#23

Was shocked to see U changing sides at last moment and hard to digest it as he happyly participated in all his crimes and also received good money for it.

Dont think they will redeem him post leap, otherwise they wont showed him reaching pathetic new low s every day. They had taken the char VD at a point of NO RETURN.

Honestly speaking many shows had ended in 3-5 months after taking 5-8 years leap. Think VD will be killed permanently and J accepting R s selfless luv at the end.

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381490

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Posted: 13 years ago

#24

But Prime, it being a fictional show, it wouldn't surprise me if they tossed all rules out of the window and redeemed V -- in spite of the point of no return. They'll just show "oh, but look, seven long years have passed and now he's reformed! Forget all the domestic violence or sexual assault or manipulation and cruelty and kidnapping and attempted murders! It's all in the past. Happened seven years ago!"

Yeah, right. As if the amount of years since a crime was committed make up for someone's sins. In that case, everyone should've forgiven Hitler by now. I'm sure he's burning in his grave over all the wrong he's done.

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Goldstar7

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Posted: 13 years ago

#25

Look inspite being obsessed with VD char makers didnt showed any soft, likeable and positive trait in him so dont think they will make him positive post leap. He will same with full of hate and wanting to take revenge.

They cant redeem him but have a feeling that him will feel remorse for his actons before his end (death) . May be he will commit suicide or give up his life saving J as mark of repentence for the evil deeds he had done to Jaanvi. Having said this doesnt make him any HERO at end but an example that evlist of evil can remorse for his actions before his end if supereme power make him do so.

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Fatima

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Posted: 13 years ago

#26

Originally posted by: Elysia
But Prime, it being a fictional show, it wouldn't surprise me if they tossed all rules out of the window and redeemed V -- in spite of the point of no return. They'll just show "oh, but look, seven long years have passed and now he's reformed! Forget all the domestic violence or sexual assault or manipulation and cruelty and kidnapping and attempted murders! It's all in the past. Happened seven years ago!"

Yeah, right. As if the amount of years since a crime was committed make up for someone's sins. In that case, everyone should've forgiven Hitler by now. I'm sure he's burning in his grave over all the wrong he's done.

See...here's exactly why I think a leap is irrelevant and so is redemption for Viraj.

It doesn't matter how long a time passes...the real question is can Jhanvi who has now transformed into Sia ever forget what Viraj did to her?

Statutes of limitations don't apply to memories.

I could never forget. And I couldn't forgive her if she did.

Edited by ummesulaiman - 13 years ago

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Fatima

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Posted: 13 years ago

#27

Originally posted by: Elysia
You know, villains have a stronger impact when they disappear for a while and then make their way back. V is constantly there, in every single episode. He has so much power in the narrative that now there'll be a 7-year leap for his character's sake, because they can't at least give us three months without him meddling in Sia's life.

@bold: This is the tragic part of this drama.

I mean really...a couple of months of Sia's life progressing in peace...was this really too much to ask for?!? 😕

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381490

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Posted: 13 years ago

#28

Originally posted by: -prime-
Look inspite being obsessed with VD char makers didnt showed any soft, likeable and positive trait in him so dont think they will make him positive post leap. He will same with full of hate and wanting to take revenge.
They cant redeem him but have a feeling that him will feel remorse for his actons before his end (death) . May be he will commit suicide or give up his life saving J as mark of repentence for the evil deeds he had done to Jaanvi. Having said this doesnt make him any HERO at end but an example that evlist of evil can remorse for his actions before his end if supereme power make him do so.

But the thing is, Prime, that remorse isn't something that occurs out of the blue. They have always emphasized how V is incapable of feeling remorse because he has no conscience. Then, what, they'll suddenly give him a conscience and make him feel remorse?

Doesn't make sense. Plus it would be entirely out of character for V.

Like I mentioned in another post, if V was meant to be a redeemable character, then they'd have shown redeemable qualities/traits in him from the start. For instance, whenever he'd beat Jahnvi or his mother or manipulated someone, or even hurt the watchman -- they would have shown his inner struggle afterward, the remorse. But they didn't.

Now all of a sudden, they might get this fantastic idea that he needs yet another redemption track and should feel remorse and they'll force-feed it to us, because most of us aren't willing to believe it. And even if they did it as logically as possible -- are they going to convince us that he's worth liking/sympathizing with?

Not to mention the damage it'll do amongst the audiences. People already condemn and victim blame Jahnvi for not helping him change -- and if they showed him redeeming himself, it would present the message that victim blamers were right and Jahnvi was wrong. Is that what they want to do?

Edited by Elysia - 13 years ago

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381490

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Posted: 13 years ago

#29

Originally posted by: ummesulaiman

Exactly, Fatima. It's absurd to redeem V. It's absurd to even think of him as positive. There's habits of a man and then there's the nature of a man. Everything that V has done to others - rape, violence, attempted murder, sexual assault, kidnapping, manipulating, and so on; that is in his nature. They're not his habits. If they were only habits, then his conscience would've fought him every step of the way. Like, when you smoke and you know it's bad, and you promise yourself to stop. Bad example, but I hope you get the point xD

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vandana

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Posted: 13 years ago

#30

ely...

lovely feedback as usual...hope u r feeling oki now...

v as a character has ceased to exist for me...so i'll not even comment on wat he has done or wat he is doing...

coz i actually wanted ppl who justify v to come up with some sort of justification of this mms thing...

and its all the more saddening wen i read ppl on fb saying that v did the right thing...if u have enemity with a guy...just go ahead and rape his sister!

great going cvs...this is wat was left to be given as a msg...

all the channel has done in the name of raising voice against domestic violence is to create more rapists in the society...

bravo!

and now we'll see that one example being redemmed...which will do nothing else...but give a morale booster to all the boys/men out there that no matter wat u do in life...u serve ur term and u can be forgiven...

neways...

cvs need to get their priorities straight...

if they think we do not understand wat they r hinting at...and assume we r fools...then they r highly mistaken...

they cannot cheat us of raghavii relationship...

i started watching this show for raghavii...

they can't do this to us...

we have borne their v drama/circus/crap for day after day...week after week...month after month...

we deserve a full fledged track on raghavii...

if they think they show us ragfhavii getting married..having sex in the next epi...and waking up 7 yrs older in the third epi...and if they feel they can shut us up...

they r highly mistaken...

time and again we as women have put forth our views that we want to sia how sia grows and moulds into this new relationship...

even if she loves raghav...it will not be easy for her...to get intimate with him...thanks to v...

we deserve to see how raghav makes sia overcome all this...

sia loves krishh a lot...but is she ready for her own children????

wat were the cvs thinking wen they decided for this bloody leap!

we deserve to see raghavii love story...and just coz the channel blindly loves a rapist and supports him...they can't cheat us of our share of happiness!

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