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Posted: 13 years ago
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Tonight's episode was beyond ridiculous. It was a one-man circus. And every other character was made to accomodate his circus.
I don't understand what's going on. What happened? For almost two weeks, we've gotten consistently balanced episodes with character development and evil dethroned. Then, all of a sudden, the writers decide to make an entire episode on V, on glorifying him, on how he dresses up, on how he's the only one talking throughout 20 minutes.
This is the first time that I've felt like I wasted 20 minutes of my life on an episode of SB?. Because at the end of the episode, I felt hollow, vacant, and throughout the episode I had to keep reminding myself to focus. None of what happened tonight made any sense.
Least of all, V's costume.
Question: How does turning V into the Joker relate to his character? If they had gone for, say, Ram or Raavan, then that would've -- at the least -- related symbolically to the story overall. But the Joker? I wasn't convinced even for a split-second.
I have three pros tonight, but I'm listing them last.
>> Cons:
1) Raghav-Krish scene and Raghav-Gayatri scene weren't played out
For the first time ever, I did not enjoy their scenes.
2) V as the Joker
Before he'd even shown himself, I was cringing because of how ridiculous it was.
3) Unniyal
Disappointed me. In the wake of tonight's episode, I have lost all sympathy toward him. I didn't sense as much as a second's hesitation or remorse in his voice/action.
4) The glorification of V
Sickened me beyond words.
5) Raghav back in prison
Ridiculous. Why have him escape to converse with Sia for two episodes and then return to prison? Way to weaken a heroic character before he has even been made stronger.
6) Krish's grief for Raghav being taken wasn't even shown
He should've been shown feeling responsible for what happened and angry at V, but this didn't even occur to the writers.
The writers have a problem. And their problem is that they allow V to gain way too much power in the narrative at the cost of every other character on the show. For God's sake, I fail to understand how they can introduce a hero and then turn him into a handsome face who pops up now and then and otherwise keep him weak, incapable of matching the big bad villain's big bad power.
Just what are the CVs doing?
Why did they give us the hope that the story was finally shifting to Raghav-Sia joint power and character strength when, in the end, they couldn't stop themselves from glorifying evil once again? What is it that the CVs don't understand here?
Earlier on in another feedback thread, I'd worked out an analysis on the three characters that demonstrated how I perceived their character development, including where I figured it might lead them. Tonight, I've worked out an analysis on the potential that I feel that the characters and show hold -- regardless of V's existence or end.
It seems to me that V acknowledged his own insanity by dressing up like the Joker tonight and showing himself as a villain -- he has somehow transitioned into the final stage of his character before his complete downfall. Well, that was what I'd assumed before I saw the way that the writers glorified him tonight and let me down completely.
When I first started watching the show, I thought that V was an intriguing character, in a frightening way. But my main focus was always Jahnvi and I waited for her character to strenghten, to leave him. However, the process that led up to her escape told me that the writers were -- mildly speaking -- obsessed with V. Jahnvi's psychological journey was so often ignored in favor of V's. We followed every single thought process of V's and, at one point, the writers actually introduced a double just to drill the point.
Even when Jahnvi lost her child, it still came to be about V -- as in his treatment and well-being. When Jahnvi escaped, I thought that finally we'd get to follow the victim's journey, her thought process; that V would be out of the picture for a while as she healed and her hero entered. However, even as they showed her embark on the most difficult jounery of her life -- they constantly shifted focus back to V in Manali with his pot, with Priya, or with himself. There wasn't a single episode without him and once again 1) Jahnvi's process of healing was messed up and ignored, and 2) the hero became nothing more than a pretty face that popped up now and then, almost as if they wanted to keep him oppressed and not make him strong enough to rival V.
My problem has only ever been the glorification of V and the constant attention that he is being given on the show; the power they've allowed him to gain in the narrative -- whether it's been to showcase his evil deeds, style, or whether it has been to attempt redemption tracks that fell flat on their faces.
Where were the other characters in all this? Where was the victim? Where was the hero?
The writers seem to have an idea in their heads that the show cannot continue without V and his style and the glorification of both. This is a misconception. Speaking for myself, I never started to watch nor continued to watch the show for V, but for Jahnvi. I've always believed that she'd be capable of carrying the show and garner viewers if only the writers would give her the time of day, focus on her and not her abuser.
Furthermore, it surprises me that the writers fail to see the incredible amount of potential that all the other characters on the show hold -- be it Sia, Raghav, Gayatri, Komal, Krish, Taashu, or even Sundar and Shekhawat. The idea that V carries the show alone is wrong to say the least. A lot of people watch the show for the other characters, the relationships b/w those characters, their interaction, and the potential that they all hold. It's not just one character who makes the story -- it's all of them. And yet those characters are weakened or pushed out of the frame to give room for V, and V, and more V.
The writers need to realize that V's downfall doesn't mean the story's/show's downfall. If anything, the show will only rise with it. Where's the optimism from the writers' side? I, as a viewer, can see all the potential in this show even if V is dethroned. I can come up with a story for each and every other character -- but they, as professional writers, seem only to believe that the character of V can keep the show going?
When they made V the sun around which the show revolved, the writers defined a certain target audience. But that doesn't mean that they can't change it all and develop the story post V's downfall and redefine another target audience for the show. Why are they afraid of dethroning V and ending his evil reign?
The story can still relate to the show even after domestic violence has been treated as a theme and ended fairly. For instance, the story could take a complete turn, go through a metamorphosis, revolving around family issues, relationships. Sia's psychological journey could finally be focused on; how she wouldn't be able to live her life as remarried as easily as some might think, because scars from her past, her marital rape remain. Fear of physical and emotional contact might drive a wedge between her and Raghav.
In regard to all the other characters -- Komal's secret is yet to be revealed as to why she becomes detached at the mention of Dev? Was he abusive in another way? The writers don't seem to realize that Komal too is an intriguing character.
There would be Raghav's struggle with his mother's wishes of a perfect son like Dev, and his struggle with Sia and the relationship build-up with a woman who has been through violence and rape. Sia's struggle with herself and coming to terms with her past, healing, moving on in a new relationship without holding up a wall in fear of being let down -- plus there's the social message of remarriage.
Krish's psychological trauma is another potential story to tell. We have Raghav's mysterious past and how he was involved with Dev's accident.
My point is that the power to transform the entire story and develop all the characters is in the writers' hands -- they have a fantastic cast of actors, they have fantastic multidimensional characters, and it being a show leaves the imagination to be explored to its fullest.
I want to suggest that the writers take a look at their characters, because they've missed a lot. V is a part of the story, but the entire story isn't driven by him. Audiences should be able to relate to the stories presented and the other characters -- that'll make them watch and become emotionally invested.
Kher. I could keep babbling and it probably wouldn't make the big difference at all. I just need to get this off my chest, because I love the show, I love the characters, but I am sick of this V glorification/focus and I want to see the other characters involved as well. I want to see something other than V's mad antics and self-obsessing and all the evil prevailing while heroes and victims are weakened to hide or suffer in silence.
Terribly disappointed with tonight's episode. I'm not sure how much longer that I can put up with the V focused drama. There's a limit. And if the writers can't see what they're doing wrong even after everything said and done -- then that's just sad.
I wasn't entirely blind while watching the episode, so I did catch onto a few pros...
1) Sia's character is still consistent and strong
That was a plus. However, I expect her to have a plan and not allow V to blackmail her as she has witnessed and come to realize what a coward he really is. Nothing should break her resolve. It would mean disrespect toward herself -- and Raghav who has suffered at V's hands just as she has. Giving in, surrendering... I'd be disappointed and it'd ruin what character growth they've shown in her so far.
2) Krish signs that Black Heart told him that he'd get his voice back
Brilliant performance by Yash.
3) The silent communication b/w Raghav and Sia
Another beautiful moment between RaghaVi that showed the potential their relationship holds and what Harshad-Sriti can do with just seconds of eye-contact. Brilliant work.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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After watching today's episode I got a few things to say. First of all I am not a Rahgav fan or a Viraj fan…I am not even attach to any of the characters, the reason is that the CV has not been able to (beside Viraj) give any character challenging dialogs or power.

I finally though that after the last week's episode the story was back on track…but I was terribly wrong.

I would like to know…why take Raghav out of jail for two episodes just to give Raghav and Sia some moments?... then send the hero back to jail again. 😕

What is the logic behind Viraj as a Joker…seriously…like with the two Viraj…what was the point? 😕

I do not get it.😕

The joker was not scary at all, was not different from Viraj…it was Viraj with make up.

Very disappointing… I though Viraj becoming a joker was a new, higher and different level of evil and craziness…but no…it was just Viraj being Viraj.

I am kind of disappointed of the actor too…is he not able to give his character any other layers than just the one. 😕

Sorry Viraj fans…just my opinion so do not hate me…I am not interested in hurting you…but the fact is that the actor has disappointed twice with a very challenging twist to his character.

The only character that still is character is Sia…and I really hope that her marring Viraj is SHE got a plan and not because she got weak.

Edited by Ani_98 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Ok just finished reading your analysis and I think you have pretty much said everything I wanted to say!
It was completely and totally unnecessary to make Raghav run out of jail and send him right back in.. just to show some nonsense !
Where was Tashu in all this jamela? Did she not hear the police come and go!!
I am tired of Viraj playing his physco tricks and the CV glorifying him for no reason! He is plain and pure evil... they need to show his downfall... how many times is Sia going to keep falling for the same sick games of his... he showed her a poison bottle and said he would harm krish and today he did the same... faking that the brakes are not working! When is Sia going to learn that he does not have the guts to hurt strong people... he always takes advantage of the weak people and ones emotions!! I dont think I really want to vent out more on Viraj ... simply bcoz i dont have the time in my life for it.. i think this 🤢 says it all!
The only good thing about today's episode was the first few minutes... loved how Raghav was all happy to see krish.. then he suddenly became all concerned and then all sad that V was playing with the kids feelings! Loved just loved HC's change of expressions in the entire scene... happiness, concern, sad and then anger.. all brilliantly done!👏
Ofcourse the eye conversation between Raghav-Sia was also brilliant! But I dont want to talk about Sia right now... i really want to know why she came dressed like that... in the precap!
BTW Raghav spoke to Shekawat that he would come in the evening with the money .. but now that he has gone to jail.. what happens... how will Raghav get the evidence!
Edited by sam123_0 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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thanks for the feedback Ana...thanks for telling me to skip the episode😛
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Posted: 13 years ago
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V used Krish to get to R, pathetic 🤢 how low can he go? he raised hopes of the kid, not even thinking on it...
then that Joker crap, he really wants Sia to smile at him after all the 'love' he has showered on her?

tonight I'm super disappointed with the epi, tomorrow Sia might say, V is my hubby so that V can get away from their lives n R is saved 😕

Did the CVs hire some of the best writers in India last week but then the PH couldn't afford to pay them so went back to the crap team n their disgusting pathetic evil worship??

characters going back steps instead of progressing, G not even bothering to ask Raghav why he escaped. Unniyal who had started to grow a spine again fell in love with V

why those messages to women in an abusive relation while the show airs? why not write: women look at what a hottie ur abusive hubby is and be with him tolerating all non-sense so that others don't call u 'characterless'.

if they want to drag the show to keep earning, there r loads of other ways. the show can survive without glorifying evil n trying to create real life V in our society
Edited by _dkmystery_ - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Res. I know I even did not get a chance to do it for your previous topic too. But I will definitely do it
Edited by april10 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Regardless of who Sia marries tomorrow tonight's epi left me 🤢 They are not ready to give any character any room, any space to grow except VD ... why did R came out of prison if he was to go back after two epis that too without doing anything constructive? I just don't get it ... why V has to succeed always? Why the hero in this show never gets any space and villan gets it all? I don't say V is not needed or not important but what makes a story interesting is when hero and villan are at power, here the villan gets all the attention, script support and everything and the hero only has Harshad Chopda to save the day for him ... if Harshad was not as good as he is am sure people would have had hard time noticing Raghav with the way they treat the character!!! And this makes me respect him more as an actor ... because it is very difficult to make your place in a show that gives you very little scope and he has successfully done it that too when he entered it after 6 months ... CVs of this show are always ready to compromise any character just to show V stronger ... Raghav is not the only one they have done this to Jhanvi for a long time and might do in future too


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Posted: 13 years ago
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oh... 😲 u still saw some pros??? for me.. the serial is back to square 1... what was the use of showing raghav escape from jail?? only to have him put back again?? what was the use of jhanvi being shown strong.. only to have her marry v again... what was the use of v dressing up like the joker??... i seriously see no connection... except to instill the fear back into jhanvi... why did the cvs show j escape from manali only to have her marry v again... 😕 😕 😕 if the cvs intend this as a jhanvi- viraj story, why introduce raghav's family in the first place??
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: flutterby

oh... 😲 u still saw some pros??? for me.. the serial is back to square 1... what was the use of showing raghav escape from jail?? only to have him put back again?? what was the use of jhanvi being shown strong.. only to have her marry v again... what was the use of v dressing up like the joker??... i seriously see no connection... except to instill the fear back into jhanvi... why did the cvs show j escape from manali only to have her marry v again... 😕 😕 😕 if the cvs intend this as a jhanvi- viraj story, why introduce raghav's family in the first place??

You know that feeling when you're so mad that you can't think straight?
Yeah, I had that feeling about ten minutes into the episode, but I tried real hard to remain as calm as possible and even dotted down some notes with a smile.
I deserve a pat on the back for suffering in silence -_-
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Do the CVs call that an episode? After all the amazing episodes, they give us that????
Pros:
  1. That was maybe the only reason I stayed through today's torture. It was because Sia was still as strong as ever.
  2. Krish is a little kid. He'll believe whatever someone tells him. We shouldn't blame him for falling for V's lies.
  3. The only sweet moment of today's episode. I was totally absorbed in the way they communicated without words. In true words, they are made for each other.
Cons:
  1. Where was the scene among them? One minute they're together and the next Raghav is getting dragged away.
  2. If there was ever a way to ruin the Joker, it was this. Chi CVs. Chi.
  3. I thought U was getting his own brain. What happened to that?
  4. Skipped V scenes. Basically skipped the whole episode.
  5. So he escapes, just so we can dream for a day or two and then he's back in jail?

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