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Posted: 8 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: loveangel94

Actually rikara story is only about om misunderstanding and useless anger. They don't have anything fundamental and basic story.

Om character has become na ghar ka na ghat ka. He is messed up and the love story is also messed up . I don't think anything good will happen even if ms end. Because the basic crux of story is om misunderstanding and hate only. If his brain start functioning then misunderstanding will go away and he may accept relationship because there will be nothing to hate or repel him anymore. That's why this story is silly since the start. With omkara character being butchered cv have made lead also unlikeable and detestable. This story does not have head and tail . rikara story depends only on either vamp and villain or male lead dumbness, stupidity and useless misunderstanding.

Now next twist of rikara story will be bua maa vampgiri because rikara story will always need a vamp or villain to get forward.



I don't necessarily agree. I think there's enough fodder in the RiKara base that they can make a good, compelling story out of it once the MU is clear. Just because Omkara will realize he was wrong in judging Gauri doesn't necessarily mean he'll fall in love with her. ChulKara was their base and they can revisit that. Ek cheez toh must hai ke the story won't move from OM so I'm not counting on him freeing her respectfully from the marriage because show band hojaega xD But he can begrudgingly hi sahi agree to live with her. Chulbul bhi toh uske kamre mein hi sota tha na? ChulKara was a drag but it did give a good foundation to RiKara. Tej can come back and the writers can explore the Tej-Omkara conflict which had sparked DBO in the first place. We can actually see Omkara's demons being addressed. It's not okay to say ke story mein KUCH nahin rahega once the MU is clear..it's the writer's very job to create story. Which they can if they would just move on from repetitive scene and actually START something which resembles a story.

But a LOT of it depends upon the CVs fixing the writing around Omkara. Stop focusing on his anger and show this man's pain as Harneet claims he is in. We don't see that. We don't see the human side of him. We don't see WHAT is going on in his mind. What does he miss? What does he regret? What does he want? Everything around Omkara is either too one-note or too vague for any of us to connect with him. I'm talking about the viewers who started the show from DBO and have little to no IB viewing experience.

As for RiKara toh their base as hinted in the initial promos was Omkara - who doesn't believe in the concept of love and Gauri - who believes love is something which is given without the demand of getting anything in return. RiKara can explore that as their love story. So the point of them having no story is not something I'll agree with. My issue is only please..aage badho ab! T_T
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Posted: 8 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: ss1609

Bang on post yaar...exact emotions of all rikarians..

But this is what we knew was going to hit us..
As the track development ..i actually feel track moved one step forward last week and now its like we have gone two steps back this week...
One thing i personally wanted after watching the first epi of MS was no big track for rikara..i didn't want any good track coming up for rikara in MS..coz after watching omkara saving gauri scene. .i was like what happened to the brilliant scenes we saw in the segment. ..chop..chop..they mercilessly cut good scenes for bakwas scenes..and they didn't even care to show what and how om felt after gauri left..so if this is how we are going to be getting the scenes then i don't need such scenes..and i'm sure if those scenes and today's scenes were in dbo episodes they would have been totally different...so for me no great scenes in MS..

But what they could have done in MS if at all they didn't want to move rikara track in MS was to continue their nok-jhok for the sake of family members and family members ki khami tho nahi hai..tho atleast ek week ke liye kaam chala lethe..watching fake romance and nok-Jhok..


Ok so they don't want to move omkara's character forward..like in understanding gauri and being sadukara and ziddikara fine . But
Today when gauri said kuch seekhiye apne bade bhaiyya se..i was like shit man..they could have atleast used this MS shit to show the real omkara to gauri through the family members. .while chulkara track she just gets glimpses of what kind of person om is..but now atleast they could have let gauri know. how,who and what omkara was from the family members. ..like in yesterday epi daadi could have told her how ommie was..

But they are repeating the same scene for three days now..
Yesterday it was anika and later daadi who stopped gauri..today bua maa. .tomorrow it will be jhanvi..
Om- chale jao😡
Gauri-chale jayenge😭
Family member- kahan jaa rahi ho..chalo omki ke room mein..😃
Its like a never ending loop..

Sorry yaar...my ramblings will go on..😆..

Ps- Hats off to shrenu...
Koi woh frustration thread revive kar ke main pg lao yaar...my ramblings abhi baki hai..




Oh god you are so bang on with the points! YES! The MS was a very good opportunity for Gauri to know what Omkara used to be like and just WHY he changed. She has never seen or witnessed that old wala Omkara. Her version of Omkara is so different than what he used to be or what he is in his entirety. When that Bade Bhaiyaa line happened..we could've seen some lightning bolt on Omkara, some realization at what he has turned to. If nothing in detail then kuch hint hi de dete which could've later been explored in DBO. The MS is doing NOTHING for DBO. Actually NOTHING. These scenes that we are getting, we've seen them before. They are just packaged differently. If you take the DBO bits out of the MS toh na DBO ko farak padega aur na hi MS ko. That's how useless this MS is. Gosh, we were finally on track last week and then this happened. Mujh se toh ye baat hazam hi nahin hoti. I'm just tired now
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Posted: 8 years ago
#33
Firstly, I must say that Shrenu was amazing in the scene where she inebriated. Such a natural.

When she drank that nashila doodh, I was like 'oh yay' finally somethings is going to change between them. I liked how Gauri questioned him and he was unable to answer. And I was really expecting - no I was sure - that she'd say something, anything, about the MU. One hint that could have planted the seed of doubt in Om's mind.

But then poof - one glass of waster - and its all back to square one Okay fine, she didn't say anything about Kali or the confusion between them but why wasn't Om reflecting back on her words.Or will we get that tomorrow? He could revisit those words, think about how she was like in the "Chulbul" avtaar and at least move to being confused than the current blind hatred.

Its just so hard to think that this is the Om that used to reprimand Shivaay for judging Annika so blatantly. Forget that. He doesnt even respect her the way he used to respect everyone else.
alright I'm now ranting.

Also the Mahasangam was great up until the Tuesday episode. But since yesterday, while IM moved along, from the RiKara/DBO point, the scenes are just repetition.
Edited by nikki.171 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
#34

Originally posted by: lostmymusic.



I don't necessarily agree. I think there's enough fodder in the RiKara base that they can make a good, compelling story out of it once the MU is clear. Just because Omkara will realize he was wrong in judging Gauri doesn't necessarily mean he'll fall in love with her. ChulKara was their base and they can revisit that. Ek cheez toh must hai ke the story won't move from OM so I'm not counting on him freeing her respectfully from the marriage because show band hojaega xD But he can begrudgingly hi sahi agree to live with her. Chulbul bhi toh uske kamre mein hi sota tha na? ChulKara was a drag but it did give a good foundation to RiKara. Tej can come back and the writers can explore the Tej-Omkara conflict which had sparked DBO in the first place. We can actually see Omkara's demons being addressed. It's not okay to say ke story mein KUCH nahin rahega once the MU is clear..it's the writer's very job to create story. Which they can if they would just move on from repetitive scene and actually START something which resembles a story.

But a LOT of it depends upon the CVs fixing the writing around Omkara. Stop focusing on his anger and show this man's pain as Harneet claims he is in. We don't see that. We don't see the human side of him. We don't see WHAT is going on in his mind. What does he miss? What does he regret? What does he want? Everything around Omkara is either too one-note or too vague for any of us to connect with him. I'm talking about the viewers who started the show from DBO and have little to no IB viewing experience.

As for RiKara toh their base as hinted in the initial promos was Omkara - who doesn't believe in the concept of love and Gauri - who believes love is something which is given without the demand of getting anything in return. RiKara can explore that as their love story. So the point of them having no story is not something I'll agree with. My issue is only please..aage badho ab! T_T

Even if there is story it is not likeable because male lead is inconsistent and unlikeable. First they changed om character and turned his good point in bad. He believed in love as God but in dbo he lost. He was respectful towards woman in dbo he lost. He was Calm and composed but in dbo he turned all time angry. His brain was working but now he is dumbest male lead ever. He was truthful and lied and hide truth when he needed to protect his loved ones but now he always lie and hide. His character is totally messed up and ruined. Sometimes he is turned in to tej version and sometimes shivay . Character growth to chodo character hi khatam ho gaya.
Atleast shivika and rudra story is according to their characters. They were not changed but their scenes were and are according to their characters. They were not butchered.


For me for a love story both leads should have consistent, well defined characterization. But here om character is totally lost. It's not about IB and dbo. It's about characterization. If one lead is made unlikeable then how come his love story can be promising.
And now what is story. I don't get it. Om continue misunderstanding and gauri continue living in Oberoi mansion because definitely cv has not budget for another set. For me it is really a poor story which has nothing good except leads chemistry
Only chemistry is working here and acting..
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Posted: 8 years ago
#35

The MS isn't the issue there is no story from the start. It's the same formula with the misunderstood FL with the heart of gold and the angry young ML, but Om's anger has no ground and Gauri has no development from the start. Just to be clear, I'm not saying that if he had better reason for his anger that his manhandling and verbal abuse is acceptable or okay in any way. I'm just pointing out that there is no foundation to their love story. Right now, its just Om's misplaced anger and the flimsy misunderstanding. I don't like it, but I understand why they changed Om's old character for DBO. I still think they should have given it a try for a month to see whenever the TRP audience would reject it or not but then again its not my money invested in this so I doubt blame them for going with the formula that works.

I knew I shouldn't have had any expectations, but I really though after the wedding he would offer her a deal and take her back home with him. She pretends to be his wife to save him from Svetlana and she gets to escape from KT. Win-win situation the misunderstanding would be intact for the conflict but he wouldn't treat this badly because needs her help. Their friendship would develop over time during the fake marriage drama for the family, but the writers with something entirely different 😆 Honestly, I like Svetlana's attitude, but her presence in the show ruined the story. They should have exposed her to Tej or have Tej lose interest in her after Svetkara engagement, but nope the whole story had to revolve around her.

I don't like how the marriage is being forced on Om like I had an issue with Shivaay, but Om isn't vocalizing his feelings like Shivaay because he isn't supposed to. If tells them then ShivRu won't side Gauri and there is no reason for her to stay. If Shivaay/Daadi/Jhanvi/Bua Maa don't intervene she would leave then we would be back to where we started Om with no FL. Gul can't afford another set so there goes Gauri. It would be nice if the writers had a better way to move the story along, but this seems to be the only way they know.

No offense to anyone, but I'm really surprised that fans of both shows expect anything from these writers. Does anyone really think after the MS the story will get better? Or that it won't be a repeat of the same scenes? Have we been watching the same show? Are we actually expecting something from the writers that gave us Dil Boley Svetlana , CGI animal attacks, not your average Sanskari biwi but creepy worshiping and Savdhaan India featuring Tejvi. Tracks are changed mid-way,no proper resolution and jumps to the next conflict. We all know Rudra didn't exist in either show and Bua Maa has no role. I really liked the actress from her introduction, but she literally gets nothing in a story with only 5 characters lol. DBO is stagnant and repetitive because of the writers the same goes for IB. All the writers do is drag the shows. One side I get it because everything can't be resolved quickly because then the story would be over on another its annoying to watch.

Honestly, I watch both shows for the cast and I don't see anything changing after MS. The shows will remain this way because this is as good as it gets unless the writers become better writers overnight, which I don't see happening. No proper development, absurd TRP gaining twists, and no continuity this is it.

To play devil's advocate, I'm sure its stressful for the writers too. Gul needs to hire more writers.

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Posted: 8 years ago
#36
I'm new to this forum so far be it for me to ruin a place to rant and express frustration at the stalled RiKaara track. It IS repetitive and gets old in an hurry - no arguments there. That said I don't think the purpose of the MahaSangam is to advance the track - rarely do these gimmicky specials advance the plot. Post the IPL lull, IMO it is about creating some excitement, trying to expand interest in both shows and buying some time to set things up for future tracks. Whether it succeeds or not is something next week's TRPs will tell us. For DBO-ians who think IB is progressing this week, I doubt the IB-ians see it like that. They're sick of Nayantara and Pinky and Nayantara's exit with Pinky pulling another Houdini act has them just as frustrated and annoyed as the DBO-ians.

I don't think it's the Maha Sangam that is the problem - whats one week of nafrat on loop when the loyal fan base has waited it out thru weeks of CrazyLana with her ridiculous stolen face and cryo-preservation. It's the loss of the lovable Om that the online fanbase mourns. Perhaps the transformation of the sensitive, artistic, soft-hearted Om to the pig headed, prejudiced hothead wasn't convincing. It is hard to justify that kind of sea change in character. Really for the love of Om (the old and the new!) we simply need to accept the exposition as fact and move on. As Rudy said in Tuesday's episode Om IS now SSO part II with all his flaws. His journey is to find his way back and it's a plot that is as cliched as it gets but with some well written scenes and the Kunal-Shrenu chemistry it can be entertaining. Meanwhile it's groundhog day for RiKaara until this Maha Sangam ends. It would be nice if we got hints of some of the conflict that lies ahead for Om - a reluctant, inexorable attraction for Gauri warring against the conditioned hatred of her type - but I'm not holding my breath. 😉 I hope it starts once we get back to regular programming.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#37
you know when a person wants to see bad in someone he will only see that...he wnt listen to anything because he already assumed something in his mind and he wanted to prove that...when gauri was in Chulbul's disguise he only saw good things but now he is only seeing gauri...
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Posted: 8 years ago
#38
Guys don't get disappointed.
Pls give some time to cvs .
RIKARA misunderstanding suddenly get clear, then what left in the story.
First of all their hate track
Nok-joke
Friendship
Then love.
I love my RIKARA each and every moments.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I'm someone who watches both shows and I'm still not satisfied with this MS...
The track for DBO is not going anywhere... As you mentioned, it's the same cycle of the same questions and the same answers and the same tears every day... These MS episodes are almost over and absolutely no progress has occurred since the first episode..

The first 10 min. of the episode were literally just the pooja where once again nothing happened.. OBros did their part.. Annika took what felt like forever to find out about Pinky and the couples did their part.. where RiKara exchanged the same repetitive looks and kept the same boring expressions we've been seeing the whole week..

Maybe it's too much to ask but I was expecting some genuine progress in terms of at least the behaviour Om has with Gauri... And I do understand that in the timeline of the show it's only been like 2 days since Svetlana was kicked out.. But if Shivaay can figure out NT's whole plot, save Sahil, and form a complete plan to find NT partner (with extra time to dance) in that same amount of time... I expect some sort of plot progression or character development with RiKara...

And honestly.. I know that there are a lot of people on this forum who only watch DBO and not IB but honestly in my opinion both shows are going nowhere.. Shivaay is obviously not going to believe Annika about Pinky (if he does it'll be a miracle) & Omkara's behaviour towards Gauri is not changing either... And in the midst of all of this, they want to introduce a new character and build up a new love story for Rudra, while he already has a wife😕 👎🏼 (I can use every type of negative emoji on IF and I still don't think I'll be able to explain to you how I feel about this whole thing)


Edit:

One thing I forgot to mention; which is probably the only positive thing I have to say, is that Drunk!Gauri was the only good thing that happened today.. She finally spoke her mind and told him what she thinks, if she was in her senses maybe it would have been to knock some sense into him, except now I think it just made him even more mad considering she compared him to a buffalo from Bareilly... And since when did only water remove an intoxication completely without any side effects?? Someone care to explain to me?? (This is a genuine question I have)
Edited by falala333 - 8 years ago

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