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Posted: 8 years ago
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i think gauri can never point out oms hypocrisy as we all saw on that idols breaking day she didnt point out his thinking like that was wrong but in a clam way so like om is a clam person gauri also even i also dont like pati jaabs actually it is the flaw of gauri like gauri make om realise him his hypocrisy om also change some thinking of gauri
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Posted: 8 years ago
#62

Originally posted by: PNalina

Don't know if Riddhima was got only for Ishqkara track as Riddhima stayed for a long time even after Ishana left.
Theres also a possibility that Riddhima will come back later as a third angle between Rikara. The actress Shireena Herself confirmed on Twitter that her track is still not over and she will come back.



Ridhima was shown at the start as a shallow publicity hungry girl who pretended in front of Om to be one way, but behind his back was another. Ishana in fact saw her double-faced behavior when she was telling the press that if her "Boyfriend" Omkara Singh Oberoi was here then their cause will get more attention. She had no qualms in lying to Om about many things. Clearly, because Ridz had helped him during his drug days, Om had this idea of her which was not 100% accurate. He was very idealistic of Ridhima's personality and that is why he was shocked when she accused him of cheating on her with Mala or was it Bela? 😕


Then the Mala-Bela stuff just made that whole track a mess and Ishana became irritating. I never saw any real chemistry between Om and Ridhima there was no intensity. It was just a close friendship and a warm feeling. She was pretty much supposed to be the "Tia" of the IshKara relationship. But then Ishana got scrapped and they decided to make Ridhima look "Good". For awhile she was acting different and so understanding of Om. Then she was acting controlling and she was telling Om what to wear and what to put in his room etc. Then again she is shown nice. I think even the CV's didn't know what to do with her character. They made a royal mess of it. Then Om and Ridz broke up and she went overseas for a project. Then Om takes drugs again and Shivaay calls her coz he thinks it coz Om is depressed about the break-up. Then they realized they needed to get Om to break up with her for good. So the ultimate "betrayal" which is lying to Om that those papers from Tej is to set up a charity, but in fact they are for Om to get more shares than Shivaay in the business. That is a huge betrayal and that relationship was always doomed because Om didn't "Love" Ridhimma. He had a bigger emotional showdown with Ishana who he had known for a month, than with Ridhimma. Ridz had her own agenda, so she was not "perfect" for Om at all. She was not bad, but neither was she good.


If her track is not over yet, then I bet she will come back with a pregnancy drama just like Tia, to ruin the RiKara relationship. So whatever people say, I dont think Ridhimma as a person was a good match for Om. He needs someone who is also idealistic, but more practical than him. Not someone who has no ideals at all!
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Those shares were of Tej n he transferred them to Om's name, Om had a problem as that would have got him more shares than Shivaaaye but making someone do that is no where cheating, Riddhima did it for the love of Om n there was no reason at all why she wouldn't do that, in fact at this time she wasn't even thinking about herself as it was not sure that Om would ever marry her
She was a normal girl who wanted fame n name for her work n everyone wants that so I don't think that anyhow makes her the betrayer, about Riddhima being the third wheel for Ishkara, maybe that was the original plan, but she had much more screen space and character development than Ishana, they showed her for months after the last scene of Ishana, yes she was never meant to be the lead heroine

She had supported him n brought him out of the drug addiction which is no small accomplishment, she was the first person he remembered in any distress n was his best friend, the character might have been introduced for Ishkara, but it developed to much greater extent, many TV viewers actually started thinking that she was the lead for Om

Now coming to Om remembering her small things, the girl has affected her to a great extent, his hatred for her is pretty deep routed since he actually had lie for her (that he had married her), remembering her doesn't mean love but just the fact that she is affecting him, Omkara always recalled Swetlana when he saw Gauri in Bareilly, so does that mean that Omkara is in love with her deep down the heart and is in denial mode?? There is no relation amongst these things

As many have pointed out, the Pati parmeshwar Jaap n doing aarti of your so called husband is something we are all irritated with, remove that n we would like her

P.S. i never rant on social media excluding this forum so definitely the people who don't like her on other forums are not the same 4 log
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: MrDarcyfan



Ridhima was shown at the start as a shallow publicity hungry girl who pretended in front of Om to be one way, but behind his back was another. Ishana in fact saw her double-faced behavior when she was telling the press that if her "Boyfriend" Omkara Singh Oberoi was here then their cause will get more attention. She had no qualms in lying to Om about many things. Clearly, because Ridz had helped him during his drug days, Om had this idea of her which was not 100% accurate. He was very idealistic of Ridhima's personality and that is why he was shocked when she accused him of cheating on her with Mala or was it Bela? 😕


Then the Mala-Bela stuff just made that whole track a mess and Ishana became irritating. I never saw any real chemistry between Om and Ridhima there was no intensity. It was just a close friendship and a warm feeling. She was pretty much supposed to be the "Tia" of the IshKara relationship. But then Ishana got scrapped and they decided to make Ridhima look "Good". For awhile she was acting different and so understanding of Om. Then she was acting controlling and she was telling Om what to wear and what to put in his room etc. Then again she is shown nice. I think even the CV's didn't know what to do with her character. They made a royal mess of it. Then Om and Ridz broke up and she went overseas for a project. Then Om takes drugs again and Shivaay calls her coz he thinks it coz Om is depressed about the break-up. Then they realized they needed to get Om to break up with her for good. So the ultimate "betrayal" which is lying to Om that those papers from Tej is to set up a charity, but in fact they are for Om to get more shares than Shivaay in the business. That is a huge betrayal and that relationship was always doomed because Om didn't "Love" Ridhimma. He had a bigger emotional showdown with Ishana who he had known for a month, than with Ridhimma. Ridz had her own agenda, so she was not "perfect" for Om at all. She was not bad, but neither was she good.


If her track is not over yet, then I bet she will come back with a pregnancy drama just like Tia, to ruin the RiKara relationship. So whatever people say, I dont think Ridhimma as a person was a good match for Om. He needs someone who is also idealistic, but more practical than him. Not someone who has no ideals at all!


Basically as I have said...since I have never followed IB in the past... it will be unfair on my part to comment on Riddhima or Ishana... since I dont know about those characters.
RiKara is a new upcoming story... it will take time to develop... Gauri is a new character... the other characters are already set over the past 6 or 7 months. We have to give time. The depth of a character will not come in one week or one month... it takes at least 3 months to explore the traits.
As for me I am enjoying RiKara... the audience too is enjoying... because a TRP of 2 in a late night slot is quite decent.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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@TM:

I agree "Sophistication" is not the measure of a person. Just coz you wear rag-like clothes and strut around in 7-inch heels and talk in an accent and look down on people, that does NOT make you a "sophisticated" person. But unfortunately, that is how Indian shows seem to portray sophistication. I think both Saumya and Mallika were sophisticated without being Bimbo's or Vamps.


I like Gauri's simplicity and strong mind. I also get her Hero worship of Om after how he saved her from imminent death putting himself at risk, even when he had a low opinion of her. But she admired how he put his bias aside to help her when she needed the help. I also think her strong faith made her ask for a "Miracle" and then Om came and saved her life. To her, HE was the answer to her faithful prayer. Of course even her Mother told her to think of this marriage as an "Ashirwad". I mean she is a village woman. What more can you expect from her?


The only objection I have of Gauri, is the Pati Parmeshwar stuff. I know she doesn't want to force herself in Om's life, but now as ChulBul she is getting to know him and she is actually falling for him now. Before it was just a form of respect, but now it's becoming more than that. Come on the guy is Hot, most women spending time with him would fall for him. I dont think Gauri is an exception in any way, and why should she be? Because she is the female lead then she cant fall for a guy or have a crush on him because of the fact that he didnt accept their circumstantial marriage? The fact here is Om has not done anything to Gauri, so she has no reason to dislike him. He just MU'd her character, but he said so to her face, and didn't talk in riddles or try to seek her out to insult her.


Gauri has not expected anything from Om, and neither is she expecting him to treat her as his wife. As long as she tones down her "Pati" talks, I dont have an issue with her. Yes I would have liked someone more "educated" for Om. But end of the day it's intelligence that matters. Gauri uses the internet a lot and she is quite smart in her own way. She is also someone who can show Om a different POV. Like how she told him that she needs to understand Tej's "Zid", and indulge him. Om was not seeing that part of the picture but Gauri showed it to him. As for ChulKara, I am not homophobic, so I find them LOL. I dont even feel it's a "Gay" story at all. Om just doesnt quite know how to handle this "She-Man" and it's funny the situations they land in. Cross dressing stories are always VERY funny and a highly successful formula even used by Shakespear! So I dont understand why people have such a big issue with it. The "Trip fall" and Eye lock stuff we can see in every show. This is something different. This is giving Om and also Gauri a much needed chance to "Get to know each other!". I have no issue with it. Just tone down the Pati talks and I am good!
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Posted: 8 years ago
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The issue is not about lack of sophistication or education. The only problem is that the paanchvi pass is not making any attempt to be independent of her pati Parmeshwar.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

Those shares were of Tej n he transferred them to Om's name, Om had a problem as that would have got him more shares than Shivaaaye but making someone do that is no where cheating, Riddhima did it for the love of Om n there was no reason at all why she wouldn't do that, in fact at this time she wasn't even thinking about herself as it was not sure that Om would ever marry her

She was a normal girl who wanted fame n name for her work n everyone wants that so I don't think that anyhow makes her the betrayer, about Riddhima being the third wheel for Ishkara, maybe that was the original plan, but she had much more screen space and character development than Ishana, they showed her for months after the last scene of Ishana, yes she was never meant to be the lead heroine

She had supported him n brought him out of the drug addiction which is no small accomplishment, she was the first person he remembered in any distress n was his best friend, the character might have been introduced for Ishkara, but it developed to much greater extent, many TV viewers actually started thinking that she was the lead for Om

Now coming to Om remembering her small things, the girl has affected her to a great extent, his hatred for her is pretty deep routed since he actually had lie for her (that he had married her), remembering her doesn't mean love but just the fact that she is affecting him, Omkara always recalled Swetlana when he saw Gauri in Bareilly, so does that mean that Omkara is in love with her deep down the heart and is in denial mode?? There is no relation amongst these things

As many have pointed out, the Pati parmeshwar Jaap n doing aarti of your so called husband is something we are all irritated with, remove that n we would like her

P.S. i never rant on social media excluding this forum so definitely the people who don't like her on other forums are not the same 4 log

I agree with the above comment.. We never meant for a sophesticated heroine.. Is it too much to ask for a good characterization for a female lead ?? Is it too much to ask for the actress's talent to be used to the maximum ?? If you see any of our posts, we've always mentioned about her Sati-Savitri ways.. Not more than that.. We've never mentioned that we want a sophesticated female or whatever.. And yes !!!! Chaar logo ki chaar baatein me yahi hai
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

Those shares were of Tej n he transferred them to Om's name, Om had a problem as that would have got him more shares than Shivaaaye but making someone do that is no where cheating, Riddhima did it for the love of Om n there was no reason at all why she wouldn't do that, in fact at this time she wasn't even thinking about herself as it was not sure that Om would ever marry her

She was a normal girl who wanted fame n name for her work n everyone wants that so I don't think that anyhow makes her the betrayer, about Riddhima being the third wheel for Ishkara, maybe that was the original plan, but she had much more screen space and character development than Ishana, they showed her for months after the last scene of Ishana, yes she was never meant to be the lead heroine

She had supported him n brought him out of the drug addiction which is no small accomplishment, she was the first person he remembered in any distress n was his best friend, the character might have been introduced for Ishkara, but it developed to much greater extent, many TV viewers actually started thinking that she was the lead for Om

Now coming to Om remembering her small things, the girl has affected her to a great extent, his hatred for her is pretty deep routed since he actually had lie for her (that he had married her), remembering her doesn't mean love but just the fact that she is affecting him, Omkara always recalled Swetlana when he saw Gauri in Bareilly, so does that mean that Omkara is in love with her deep down the heart and is in denial mode?? There is no relation amongst these things

As many have pointed out, the Pati parmeshwar Jaap n doing aarti of your so called husband is something we are all irritated with, remove that n we would like her

P.S. i never rant on social media excluding this forum so definitely the people who don't like her on other forums are not the same 4 log

I agree with the above comment.. We never meant for a sophesticated heroine.. Is it too much to ask for a good characterization for a female lead ?? Is it too much to ask for the actress's talent to be used to the maximum ?? If you see any of our posts, we've always mentioned about her Sati-Savitri ways.. Not more than that.. We've never mentioned that we want a sophesticated female or whatever.. And yes !!!! Chaar logo ki chaar baatein me yahi hai
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I dont agree that just coz the shares were "Tej's, that Ridhimma getting Om to sign the papers by lying that it's for a "Charity" is not betrayal. If someone I trusted so much, did that to ME, I would feel very betrayed indeed. Tej is Om's Father. Let's say he wanted to do this, but his son was not letting him. Then he gets Ridz's help. But knowing what she knows of Om and his relationship with Shivaay, for her to double cross him by helping Tej was totally wrong. She also knows how Om feels about Tej. So what right did she have to plot with him to trick Om into signing those docs? Tricking someone to sign a legal document is no joke and neither is it so easily dismissed. Sorry I dont agree with you on that.


Ridhimma wanted "Name and Fame" and maybe that's fine. But she also lied and acted two faced to get it. She always acted to Om that she was doing all this "Charity work" coz she is genuinely interested in helping people. But clearly, she was just as interested in promoting herself. That's ALL good, if she was straight about it. But she always acted to Om like she didn't want his help in her causes, but used his name to get more publicity for them. Just like Om said to the Police officer, the difference between him and the police officer was that he used his uniform to intimidate people, and he didn't use his name to influence them. Ridhimma only stayed for THAT long in the story because they scrapped Ishana, and they didn't exactly know where to take Om's story. It had nothing to do with her being the "right" character for him. CV's and Gul Ma just stuffed the whole thing up. Plain and simple.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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The problem is not the uneducated lead it's the execution if u Want to show uneducated girl for your sophisticated hero there has to be a good reason . in Gul's show its only for comic relief she does know how to speak in English and its O So cute , because she doesn't even know the meaning of blush, there isn't any character growth
Guls shows are just cheesy romance which is plot driven there is no good development of characters in any of his shows , the love stories are mostly based on physical chemistry :P
That's why I loved RumYa , they were different from guls other couples but yet again she proved her limitations as a creative , I wish she handed over atleast RumYa to Nissar parvez

I don't want to compare but there was a show on star one called Rand badalti odhni , now that's how u show a love story between an uneducated girl and a educated urban boy , that show was so well written and directed but then that show was not on a GEC channel still for star one kind off channel it was very popular and had decent trps
The reason was that show was character driven and not plot driven like DBO

Edited by .Sunrise. - 8 years ago

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