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Posted: 8 years ago
#61

Originally posted by: sree07


I would love to reply on three points here -
Crux of the story? woh...We are just 2 weeks into the story! Chillax. Soul connection can be in fiction shows as well. We have seen it in infinite number of fiction shows in tellywood. I hope you understand the difference between fantasy and fiction genre. Of course as you said, Soul connection, or star crossed lovers idea can not be the crux of the story. But it can very well be the theme of the story. (Rem IPK? I am huge fan of IPK which is Guls prev product. It had the same theme.)

Ishana-> Ishana didn't work because of OTT? Are you sure? That's too silly a reason for CVs to trim a character. It is a character aspect which they could have modified without trimming. But they had to cut her because the character was not well developed and back story was lame most of the times. They wanted to give her a grey shades and play with a grey female lead for a male lead who embodies soul among the brothers. But they screwed up big time. Even during the last confrontation I was confused about the way she settled things and the moral balance of the character was in disarray. Well there might be hundred who felt she is OTT but there were few many who felt she was adorable with OTT, Just because OTT, indian telly wouldn't cut characters :). Then many of the current FL's of tellywood, would have been history.

If you combine these two points, may be CVs want to set up a FL for om who colludes with the evil. May be they are pushing Gauri to the grey area which they tried and failed with Ishana but with a difference. With Gauri we know the background and her moral dilemma unlike ishana. We have a more first hand view of it. May be they wanna set up Gauri as devil's wingman and put into a confrontation mode with om. It would be wise to wait for the CVs magic to tell you the Crux of the story than judging the show prematurely. Stories are made my small threads, don't just see a thread, see the whole picture.

OTT -> I personally don't think DBO is set in a serious situation. Its gonna be a romantic comedy with a truck load of vamps and villains. If you consider the OTT scale, Don't you think Rudra also rates high on that scale? Oh I forget only female leads are judged based on OTT. my bad.


Seriously I do not want to drag this discussion and my post too. I am satisfied that my post achieved it's purpose of bringing out people who are actually disappointed with this and giving them a platform to voice their opinion. But I have a bit OCD and dislike not answering an argument either in favour or against.

First of all @Red made me realize that we are not gonna agree on anything about love stories ever lol. IPK was a huge rage when I was in school and I was one of the few kids who was always impervious to the show's charm. Truth be told I disliked it. When I started watching IB, I never knew that it belonged to the same PH and I fell for the guys. By the time I realized that, I was already trapped in the world of M&B romances. Till date I regret not doing my home work on the PH and the kind of stories they give. I regret ever falling for the brothers too. But I had hopes when people told me that Om wasn't a typical Gul hero 😆

I believe Ishana flopped because she was OTT and lacked substance. Her humor was out of place and Bela-Mala was illogical. It also had a lot to do with Omkara, he wasn't the typical AYM and the kind of crowd he attracted was different and most of them disliked OTT Ishana. As for OTT heroines making big, times have changed lol. Sensibility is also welcomed these days. Gul could have at least experimented.

And I have already said this hundreds of times now. I wrote this post in the hope that some of the writers would actually see that there are people who dislike some stuff they are showing on Gauri too. Complaining now is better than complaining when there is logically no possibility of a change in the future. As for crux of the story - Surely Shivika and RuMya had a very comprehensible crux from the very first week lol and you are saying RiKara has been only two weeks lol.

Now about Rudra, I have never felt him to be OTT, maybe it's Leenesh's acting but since you pointed it out I think him being a cute guy has a lot to do with it. My mother who is a Shrenu fan from IPKEBP and a Leenesh fan since Rudra would pick Rudra over Gauri any day.😆 I guess the thing is that such guys are a rarity on TV when OTT ladies are abundant on TV 😆 and the guy becomes a novelty. Novelty always attract attention 😆

Edit - Lastly let's agree to disagree. I do not think that you will ever see my point and I yours. Like I said liking something is very subjective and my post was a rambling of a disappointed fan and I am one but I understand that you are not😆
Edited by -Ila- - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
#62

Originally posted by: -Ila-


Seriously I do not want to drag this discussion and my post too. I am satisfied that my post achieved it's purpose of bringing out people who are actually disappointed with this and giving them a platform to voice their opinion. But I have a bit OCD and dislike not answering an argument either in favour or against.

First of all @Red made me realize that we are not agree on anything about love stories ever lol. IPK was a huge rage when I was in school and I was one of the few kids who was always impervious to the show's charm. Truth be told I disliked it. When I started watching IB, I never knew that it belonged to the same PH and I fell for the guys. By the time I realized that, I was already trapped in the world of M&B romances. Till date I regret not doing my home work on the PH and the kind of stories they give. I regret ever falling for the brothers too. But I had hopes when people told me that Om wasn't a typical Gul hero 😆

I believe Ishana flopped because she was OTT and lacked substance. Her humor was out of place and Bela-Mala was illogical. It also had a lot to do with Omkara, he wasn't the typical AYM and the kind of crowd he attracted was different and most of them disliked OTT Ishana. As for OTT heroines making big, times have changed lol. Sensibility is also welcomed these days. Gul could have at least experimented.

And I have already said this hundreds of times now. I wrote this post in the hope that some of the writers would actually see that there are people who dislike some stuff they are showing on Gauri too. Complaining now is better than complaining when there is logically no possibility of a change in the future. As for crux of the story - Surely Shivika and RuMya had a very comprehensible crux from the very first week lol and you are saying RiKara has been only two weeks lol.

Now about Rudra, I have never felt him to be OTT, maybe it's Leenesh's acting but since you pointed it out I think him being a cute guy has a lot to do with it. My mother who is a Shrenu fan from IPKEBP and a Leenesh fan since Rudra would pick Rudra over Gauri any day.😆 I guess the thing is that such guys are a rarity on TV when OTT ladies are abundant on TV 😆 and the guy becomes a novelty. Novelty always attract attention 😆


IPK was a nice one from this production house. Thank god it didn't last long and I didn't ended up hating it. 😆

I have ranted enough to make my stand clear. Different people different opinions. So signing off respectfully. Have a nice day. Hope you do enjoy the show!
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Posted: 8 years ago
#63
For the sake of argument, I'll agree Gauri isn't a suitable lead for Omkara. There's no takkar ki Ishqbaazi there. Okay.

But convince me from CANON information of the show, how does Svetkara fit the bill then? Not headcanons that have been cooked up in this fandom for the past 8 months (I was there when SvetKara was first made up). From canon information of the show, keeping true to the personality and motives of the characters from the beginning...tell me how does SvetKara > RiKara? Please no chemistry thing here because that's a subjective thing and I want sane, logical points.

Kasam se I'm not being sarcastic, please don't go on my dp/avi/siggy. I'm VERY open to changing my opinions. I just want to see what others see in SvetKara that I haven't till now because of my blindness.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#64

Originally posted by: Nikita_Smith

I haven't seen all the episodes, but the ones I saw I liked Gauri. I found her cute and innocent. It was Om who I felt disappointed with actually. I didn't find him the same sensitive and caring Om who I used to like so much in the early days of IB. I understand him having anger issues and acting all cold because of what happened with his Mom, but he could have been a lot more considerate and respectful towards Gauri (especially after seeing how she was being treated by those village people) I didn't like how he pushed her after telling her off that the marriage means nothing to him. I didn't like him manhandling Swetlana either in that one scene in IB earlier.

As far as Gauri's beliefs for marriage are concerned, it is not something very unlikely for her to have such beliefs considering her family background and upbringing. If after being born in such a rich and powerful family, surrounded with such confident, well spoken people, Prinku (have no doubts I love her) can grow up to be somewhat under confident and timid then why can't Gauri be the way she is?

I might be in the minority here but I don't like Om carrying this gangsta look all the freaking time. He looks handsome nonetheless but I would still prefer his earlier look to this one. I am strictly allergic to seeing men having ponytails 😆



About Om- you have to understand that the discussion on Om is done to death. I don't defend the guy jerking his hands away from her. But I don't see why Om will be considerate and respectful towards her when he has only seen her in such situations where you will be forced to think her of deserving all the hate and he never knew that she was innocent. Om is no psychic to see her innocence. I loved it that Om rescued her despite hating her and knowing for sure that she is the culprit (from what he inferred) and that was only something Om would do. As for manhandling Swetlana, I have different views 😆

Gauri - I am asking her to realistic, a bit more toned down. Liking something or someone is subjective and I dislike the way she is being shown.


But I agree on the last point, I miss the look of Om I fell in love with, the open hair and the serene smile. 😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
#65
@ -lla- ur post rocked & yes we need to correct the CVs now as later it might be too late for them to repair Gauris character.
Or else again it will be like Ishakara character will get scrapped as it will be completely messed up.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#66

Originally posted by: -Ila-


About Om- you have to understand that the discussion on Om is done to death. I don't defend the guy jerking his hands away from her. But I don't see why Om will be considerate and respectful towards her when he has only seen her in such situations where you will be forced to think her of deserving all the hate and he never knew that she was innocent. Om is no psychic to see her innocence. I loved it that Om rescued her despite hating her and knowing for sure that she is the culprit (from what he inferred) and that was only something Om would do. As for manhandling Swetlana, I have different views😆

Gauri - I am asking her to realistic, a bit more toned down. Liking something or someone is subjective and I dislike the way she is being shown.


But I agree on the last point, I miss the look of Om I fell in love with, the open hair and the serene smile.😆


Yes we want our old Omkara back with open hair.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#67
As much as I dislike svetkara I can see the potential as many says here. I think the common headcanon we all have and even I think it is/should happen is this- she was first love of om and when she cheated on him with tej it hit him hard. This was pre accident f**kery Gul did. Now for arguments sake we can say that clouded his judgement which led to the accident and that's when he started drugs. That's where the whole chemistry of svetkara fits, her obsession with him and his plain disgust which seems deeper than a woman who nearly killed his mom. Apart from this I don't think there's anything. And whatever it is it's in past, they can't be endgame cause there's a cringe factor and Indian TV not ready for that bold concept. We are stuck with nagin and ott gaon ki gori for God's sake😆

@TM barging in to say I agree 200% with everything you say. I want to write essays but pretty sure others have covered all the bases. Sad thing is it feels like Shivika 2.0 . At times om is so cruel it just don't fit and G is another Gul heroine. Not that I had any hope from promos to begin with but this is just sad. We wanted this show and still it's the same show with different faces.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#68

Originally posted by: lostmymusic.

For the sake of argument, I'll agree Gauri isn't a suitable lead for Omkara. There's no takkar ki Ishqbaazi there. Okay.

But convince me from CANON information of the show, how does Svetkara fit the bill then? Not headcanons that have been cooked up in this fandom for the past 8 months (I was there when SvetKara was first made up). From canon information of the show, keeping true to the personality and motives of the characters from the beginning...tell me how does SvetKara > RiKara? Please no chemistry thing here because that's a subjective thing and I want sane, logical points.

Kasam se I'm not being sarcastic, please don't go on my dp/avi/siggy. I'm VERY open to changing my opinions. I just want to see what others see in SvetKara that I haven't till now because of my blindness.


Ok tell me the name of one person who want SwetKara as end game 😆

Lemme make one point clear I don't think anyone from the fandom wants them as end game. But there is a possible intense story hidden there. like Mandy said in her comment, it's not ishqbaazi, it's nafratbaazi. When people say they like SwetKara they necessarily don't mean that they will make a great couple. Swetlana is Omkara's father's mistress who can fall to any length to achieve her aim of avenging her father's death, even sleep with the man who is responsible for her father's death. Omkara is a determined man who can sacrifice anything for his mother's happiness, even get engaged to his father's mistress. When they clash, it is all or nothing. Swetlana wants to destroy Om's family and she will stop at nothing and Om won't allow anyone to harm his family and he will go to any length for the same. That is takkar ki nafratbaazi. The perfect protagonist- antagonist equation. And this game they are playing, trying to outsmart one another and the venom they hold for each other is interesting. Om is forced to deal with his emotions of disgust and repulsion and hold Swetlana's hands with a smile and it is not easy. Even the flirty words are underlined with intense hatred. And Om thinks he have her when she is far ahead of him. The predator letting the prey think that it is the predator. And if this isn't an appealing story I must have a really bad taste. And this is all from canon facts and not headcanon 😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
#69
Here all i can say Makers u can use some bold story concept related to swetkara... Or something different love story for Rikara... u guys already have Ishqbaaz for Trp purpose.. already that show is going on continues Shadi n a lots of villens tracks to get high Trps... Don't u think its enough.. ??
DBO time slot can be used for something different.. use it..come on n give us something hat ka and very interesting.. we Omkara fans definitely want some hat ka and Deep story.. we never demands for high trps.. so plz forget abt trps n do something real hat ka.. or says try orignal concept u guys chooses for omkara...

For now i m enjoying chulbul n Omkara track.. i want to see it for some time for fun purpose.. but definitely om can never feel something for a boy...lolzzz.. so no dragging plz.. i want RIKara story now.. some meaningful scenes n great love story.. real deep. Meaningful n intense love story.

But i guess i m demanding too much.. show started with point 2 trps.. n now going ahead.. i m happy.. really happy.. but yes i know bcz of this we will get trp story only... But i hope if u try something more different.. bcz now u guys have two shows.. at least try something hat ka in this one..
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Guys we never says we want Swetkara as end game.. they r not love birds... But they r surly most interesting to watch.. some real Takker is there... Swet can go to any extent to damage Oberois N Omkara can go to any extent to save his family...
And that's why they r together.. knowing each other very well they were first in fight n now in Silent fight... For me n swetkara shippers this is most interesting thing to watch till now in IB n now in DBO... After all we all are watching show for entertainment.. n its best entertainment including TejKara... Real Nafratbaazi is here... N can't we be fan of Takkar ki Nafratbazi ?? It doesn't mean we want swetkara as end game.. n we never says so.. but yes we want them in show n enjoying their real Tashen...

We also waiting for some real love story between Rikara...no doubt abt it

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