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I read in a book that Nahush turns to a serpent and also he was considered as one of the descendants of Krishna
Then Now I am quite confused how does Nahush's story come in now...
I mean CVs already showed him, but he was supposed to be shown in Dwapar yug right???

Just a doubt

And also read this story about how Nahush turned to Serpant

"he became Indra (king of devas :residing in Indralokam) at one time. He lusted after the current Indrani, Shachi(queen of the devas who was the previous Indra's wife). He sent a message to Indrani that since he had become now Indra he was coming to her palace. Indrani got worried but couldn't do anything. So she went to the Guru of the Devas, Brihaspathi and told him her problem.

Nahusha wanted to do one of the great thing which wasn't done by Indra yet. He inquired the same with Shachi. She said, there is one celebration called Shibikarohan where in saptarshi's (seven great maharshis) carry Indra, whith his samadhi state, in palanquin. There was a condition that while he was in the palanquin (during shibikarohan) he should get awakened out of samadhi state. And this celebration happens to be of seven days. So, Nahusha decide to do Shibikarohan. Maharshi's blessed him to that for all seven days.

If this shibikarohan happens successfully for all seven days then whole world (all three lokas) would have attained happiness without having any sorrows. But the world was created by Brahma with intention of not to attain that satwik state (total truth and Niyat - honest). So, devi Niyati comes to Nahusha and ask him to do only for three days. But king Nahusha do not agree for that. Niyati devi ask him to at least not to do it for seven days and get awaken in mid of shibikarohan on seventh day. So, on seventh day of shibikarohan, king Nahusha woke up from his samadhi state. Due to that he gets the curse from Mahrshi's.

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The enraged Agastya retaliated by a curse "sarpo bhava"(become a snake). The King Nahusha turned into a snake fell down to Earth. Sage Narada intervened on his behalf and Agastya relented and said that Yudhishthira would be instrumental in Nahusha's release from the curse."

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Posted: 11 years ago
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They will show nahush story after Ramayana.

This is technical erroe of show as always.
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Hari, Nahush was an ancestor of Krishna and not his descendent. His son wasYayaati (of Devyani and Sharmista story). Puru and Yadu were two of his sons. Yadu was Devyani's son and Puru was Sharmista's son. Yadav dynasty (Krishna's dyansty) starts from him and Kaurav dynasty started from Puru. I think there are lot of generations between Yadu and Krishna. So it is possible that Nahush was in Treta Yug even though Krishna was in Dwapar Yug.

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Wow beautiful story I did not know about it thanks so much 👏
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Originally posted by: Angie12

Hari, Nahush was an ancestor of Krishna and not his descendent. His son wasYayaati (of Devyani and Sharmista story). Puru and Yadu were two of his sons. Yadu was Devyani's son and Puru was Sharmista's son. Yadav dynasty (Krishna's dyansty) starts from him and Kaurav dynasty started from Puru. I think there are lot of generations between Yadu and Krishna. So it is possible that Nahush was in Treta Yug even though Krishna was in Dwapar Yug.



krishna came in Dwapar yug and with his end started kaliyug but Yayati came much before Samrat Bharat and he was the son of Shankuntala who was daughter of Rishi Vishwamitra and Menka and and Rishi Vishwamitra took test of Raja Harishchandra so I also think that Nahush story must have happened in Tretayug but wasn't he husband of Ashok Sundri daughter of Shivji and she took birth in satyug ????

So definitely this must have happened in Tretayug Yug in which Ram took birth

here see this is what I found in wikipedia

Nahusha (Sanskrit: ????) was a well-known king of the Aila dynasty. He was the son of Ayu, the eldest son of Pururavas and Prabha, the daughter of Svarbhanu. Nahusha reigned from Pratishthana. He married Viraja, the daughter of the Pitrs. They had six or seven sons, according to different Puranas. His eldest son Yati became a muni (ascetic). He was succeeded by his second son Yayati.[1]

This king is mentioned by Manu as having come into conflict with the Brahmins, and his story is repeated several times with variations in different parts of the Mahabharata as well as in the Puranas. According to Manu "By sacrifices, austere fervour, sacred study, self-restraint, and valour, Nahusha acquired the undisturbed sovereignty of the three worlds. Through want of virtuous humility the great king Nahusha was utterly ruined".

Sister Nivedita also has mentioned about the king Nahusa in one story "The Worth of Kine" in relation to rishi Baradwaj Mahrshi who was accidentally caught in a net along with fish by fishermen who were fishing in a river. The fishermen took the rishi Chyavana to king Nahusha and asked him to pay the price for the fish and the rishi, with the king offering a cow in return for the sage.

Actually this has made me even more confused

here is the link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nahusha

Where did Ashok Sundri come from ???? She is not mentioned in any of the Puran but may be she has some reference in Tamil Versions of Purans ????

Gosh only the producer and writer of DKDM knows

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Rasyafan, The timelines in DKDM have always been confusing to me. Shantanu was Bharat's descendent. Bharat was Menaka and Vishwamitra's grandson. So there is some overlap of Bharat and Ram era as Vishwamitra was in Ram's era. Probably just as Krishna's end resulted in Kalyug, Treta Yug too turned into Dwarap Yug. Probably it was with the end of Ram Rajya.
I know that Bharat did not make any of his sons kings because he found them unworthy. He made his adopted son a King (can call it sort of democracy). But was that adopted king Sage Bharadwaj. This I don't remember.
I have never read Sister Nivedita's story before you mentioned it here. So thanks for writing about it.
As far as Ashok Sundari is concerned, first time I heard about Shivji's daughter was in Mahadev. I had no idea that Nahush was married to Shiv's daughter. So I don't know where this story is coming from. Later on just searching on internet, I found some mentions that Bengal and Gujarat have some stories about Shiv's daughter. I don't know if those stories are consistent with Mahadev's version.
As far as I know, Nahush fell for Indra's wife and consequently turned into a serpent.
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Originally posted by: Angie12

Rasyafan, The timelines in DKDM have always been confusing to me. Shantanu was Bharat's descendent. Bharat was Menaka and Vishwamitra's grandson. So there is some overlap of Bharat and Ram era as Vishwamitra was in Ram's era. Probably just as Krishna's end resulted in Kalyug, Treta Yug too turned into Dwarap Yug. Probably it was with the end of Ram Rajya.

I know that Bharat did not make any of his sons kings because he found them unworthy. He made his adopted son a King (can call it sort of democracy). But was that adopted king Sage Bharadwaj. This I don't remember.

No I am googling more information Rishi Bhardwaj was one of the 7 rishis so he was not his adopted son but his son's name was also bhardwaj and after him Deelip became samrat bcoz bhardwaj left the kingdom and became ascetic I read it a long time ago I have not found this inforamation as yet but am reading about bharat v v interesting
I have never read Sister Nivedita's story before you mentioned it here. So thanks for writing about it.😃 u are wellcome dear I love coming here bcoz I get to know about our sanatan dharm so much from you guys it is really amazing that todays generation is really interesting to know about our ancestors and sanatan dharm I feel so porud of you guys Thanks once again for inspiring me 😆
As far as Ashok Sundari is concerned, first time I heard about Shivji's daughter was in Mahadev. I had no idea that Nahush was married to Shiv's daughter. So I don't know where this story is coming from. Later on just searching on internet, I found some mentions that Bengal and Gujarat have some stories about Shiv's daughter. I don't know if those stories are consistent with Mahadev's version.

A long time back I read about daughter of Shiv and Sati named Dakshaini something after her mother but That story I cant find any where now for the first time I read that shiv had 8 children including this elder daughter who was married to vishnuji and named padmini or padma and since shesh nag twin of vishnu also fell in love with her from dakshiny he made another girl her twin and married her off to Anant Shesh nag I am trying so hard to find that story it is part of SHiv puran which I found on net and I also read that initially before creation or shiv there was an divya shkti an electricity which or rather she divided herself into parts one was called ishwari and ishwara she ecame ishwari and her other part became ishwara also known as rudra and from there the whole stuff of creation started it was beautiful and I think it was written by some south Indian 😭😭😭😭 I cant find it any where I shud have saved it a long time back when I read it I swear the more I read it the more hooked I got it was mehestic because of this I bought Shiv puran not geeta press one but it was published in Kashi Banaras and it is beautiful it is in hindi shudh hindi but the language is so engaging that you just want to read and read and never stop 😆
As far as I know, Nahush fell for Indra's wife and consequently turned into a serpent.

I had no idea I read it here for the first time 😕

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here read the beautiful Bhartiya sanskriti

I am sure you all will have gooseberries on you reading this well be proud to be bhartiyas 😃

Two Dynasties and Two Epics

The two Epics Ramayan and Mahabharat tell the stories of Ancient Bharat and these two also describe in details the achievements of two great dynasties that shaped our history. These two dynasties were Suryavansha and Chandravansha. The Chandravansha ruled in the region between Ganga and Yamuna, that included the present day Delhi, Haryana, Western U.P., and the Suryavansha in Ayodhya. These two dynasties gave birth to able rulers, sages, law-makers, warriors and through matrimonial alliances, they were connected with almost all the dynasties of Bharat. The Suryavansha was the oldest and its founders were Vivaswan and his son Vaivasvat Manu. The real history starts from their descendant Ikhsvaku, in whose line born great kings like Sagar, Raghu, Sri Rama etc. After the death of Sri Rama, his kingdom got divided among his two sons ( a similar fate happened to the kingdom of Solomon ). Their descendants continued to rule till the rise of the Nandas. The Suryavansha was connected to Chandra through matrimonial alliance. Ila, the daughter of Manu was married to Budha, the son of Chandra, from whom descended the famous Pururava Aila. Among the early rulers, Nahusha and his son Yayati were famous. Yayati married the daughter of Sukracharya. His sons spread in all directions. Among them Puru succeeded him, while Jadu set up his own kingdom. The descendants later engaged in a battle, known as the Battle of Ten kings. Among the later rulers, kuru gave his name to the kuru country, and the line continued till the Mahabharat War. While Mahabharat describes the achievements of the Lunar Dynasty, Ramayana concentrates on the Solar one. However, both these dynasties played important role in the development of Bharatiya culture. We know that the name Ilavarta is an ancient name of Aryavarta, and named after Ila, while Bharatvarsha was named after Samrat Bharat and his descendants. The kuru-Panchala country was famous for Vedic studies and River Saraswati was within the rule of the kurus. While Sanatan Dharma and its traditions developed in the kuru-Panchala region, the kosala kingdom was famous for smritis or laws. Hence the division between Smriti and Shruti appeared. The Vedas and Sanatan Dharma which remained constant with the change of time, is called Shruti ( to be heard ). The Dharmashastras or law-books that change with the change of time, is called Smriti ( to be remembered ). The latter represent Yuga Dharma, different from Sanatan Dharma. Later the Brahmanas started to settle in the Videha ( North Bihar ), where a branch of the Ikshvaku dynasty ruled. A branch of it also settled in South kosala and Andhra. The Ikshvakus were famous for their justice, unlike the Purus who were famous for warfare and expansion. The tradition of Manus was connected with Suryavansha, who was also connected with the Sakyas. Both these dynasties performed Asvamedha, Rajasuya and Vajapeya sacrifices. The traditional capital of the Chandras was Pratisthana ( Prayag ). Later Hastinapur became their capital. The Chandra princes married Yavana women and thus gave birth to different Yavana tribes. The Persians also descended from the line of Yayati. The region of Uttar kuru, Balhika, Gandhara etc were colonized by the Chandras. They also built beautiful palaces and towns. Both kuru and kosala excelled other states in the system of alliances. We find many such alliances in Epics. The most important was the alliance of Rama with the Vanaras against the Rakshasa kingdom. Another important alliance was the Pandava-Yadava alliance or friendship of Arjun and krishna against the ruling kauravas. Like the Greek Epic War, these alliances played important role in Ancient Bharatiya politics. During the Mahabharat Period, the Devabhumi Himalaya was not forgotten. This was the traditional homeland of Sanatan Sanskriti. So the journey of Yudhisthira ended in the Himalayas where all his mighty brothers fell one by one. The city of krishna also merged in the water. Arjun witnessed the destruction of Dwarka by rising sea and then before his eyes Dwaraka was no more. It vanished in the seas. This was the message of Mahabharat-nothing exists forever. Too much pride and over-confidence led to the destruction of kuru culture. Then the Mlecchas started to multiply and the kali Era began. The magical world of Vedic Bharat ended with the decline of these two dynasties. The Rajputs later claimed their origins from both these houses. Still the Epics of Valmiki and Vyasa fascinate us. We could not forget what we once were and what we have become. Those who are interested in detailed study, may contact Jijith N. Ravi, who created Ancient Voice, a site on Mahabharat. Similar efforts like Hindu Wisdom by an America-based woman led us to the past. But of all these sites, Ancient Voice is the most helpful because of its perfect research and analysis. It put emphasis on political history with minute details. I thank the creator of Ancient Voice, Jijith, for his hard work.
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Thank u all for info
well my Doubt arouse, when I was searching once for AshokSundari and then
I got a interestng point, which stated that Ashok Sundari, did tapasya to Lord Vishnu, to get a person of his quality as her husband and Lord Vishnu gave her the boon of marrying Nahush, who will be a desent of krishnavatar

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Samrat Bharata also known as Sarvadamana-

the Universal Emperor who united this country BHARATVARSH

can we have such a prime minister with such great qualities Bhart became the first country to have Democracy Proud to be a Bhartiya 👏

The greatest lie preached during the British Period was that before Chandragupta Maurya, nobody could unite this country. But our Itihas shows many Chakravarti rulers who ruled over a large population. The Vedic titles Raja Sarvojanin / Raja Vishwajanin also show the dreams of Vedic people for world conquest. During the later Vedic Period, the concept of Chakravarti developed. A Chakravarti is one who is the master of the six segments of the world with 32000 crowned feudatory kings as his vassals. He acquires nine treasures and fourteen gems. He has 96000 consorts in attendance, besides a large number of army, horses, elephants, chariots and cows. A Chakravarti may be a Chakravala ( ruling over 4 divisions ) , Dwipa ( one division ) and Pradesha ( regional ). The first was Samrat Asoka, Ikshvaku, Bharat, Sagar etc. A Chakravarti should follow the policy of Dharma Vijaya, and not Lobha / Asura Vijaya. He turns the wheel of Dharma ( Dharmacakra pravartan ). His rule is called Sarvabhauma ( extending over all the territories ). Seen from this perspective, a Chakravarti ruler is an ideal emperor and also universal. Such an emperor gave his name to this country. The Jaina, Buddhist, Post-Vedic traditions as well as Mahabharat tell the story of Samrat Bharat, the son of Dushyanta and Shakuntala. He belonged to Chandra Vamsa, and ruled over a vast territory. Before and after Bharat, many Chakravarti rulers appeared and disappeared but his importance was above all for two reasons-first he selected his successor from the Bharadwajas and secondly, his early association with kanva. He left his throne and became an ascetic. Many stories related to his ascetic life can be seen in Sanskrit Literature. Immortalized by kalidasa in his Abhigyana Shakuntalam, Bharat is also famous in Jain Literature as the son of Tirthankara Risabhadeva. Both kalidasa and Jain sources refer to him as the greatest ruler. Mahabharata tells the story of this legendary ruler. The word Bharat means "cherished". His childhood name was Sarvadamana. When he was a child, he was brought up by kanva, the writer of Vedic mantras. The ashram of the latter was situated on the banks of Malini, now in Uttarakhand. When king Dushyanta accepted Shakuntala as his wife, he also chose Bharat as his successor. The country that he ruled came to be known as Bharatvarsha and his dynasty as Bharata Dynasty. His choice of Bhumanyu, born of a kasi Princess and by the grace of Bharadwajas, was a sign of democratic selection. The Bharatiya Democracy has many things to learn from Bharat. Our democracy, like the Greek one, has ancient roots. The later experiments of Ganarajya show this. The Bharatiya king was not a tyrant. He had to take permission of his ministers before taking any major decision. Of all the ancient cultures, we were perhaps the only one who followed the policy of Dharma Vijaya. The kings regarded his subjects as children and not as governed people. The kings were guided by the rule of law called Dharma and it was only the Bharatiya Emperors who left the throne in favour of the next generation. This Vanaprastha was seen only in our culture. The life of Bharat can be divided into three parts-his boyhood, his rule and his sanyasa. The later life of Bharat is not less interesting. He attained salvation after a long quest of truth. Now the question comes-why this country was named after this Chandravamshi kshatriya ruler and not after other great rulers and sages? This question led us to the pre-Mahabharata Period. The descendants of Bharata expanded their territories and engaged in battles with the Suryavamsis. All these happened long before the birth of Sri Rama and the rise of Parashuram. The Empire of Bharat included regions from Persia to Burma and from Himalayas to kanyakumari. The Yavanas, the Mleccha tribes, the Chinas, the Yakshas-all acknowledged his sovereignty. He performed many sacrifices under the guidance of Rishi kanva. These sacrifices increased his prestige and power. In his later life, he renounced his worldly pleasures and went to the Ashram of Pulaha. His attachment to a deer destroyed his ascetic life and he was born in a Brahman family. In this birth, he came to be known as Jara Bharat, as he remained aloof from all types of action. The story of Jara Bharat is well known. His life shows the attainment of four things-dharma, artha, kama and moksha-called Purusartha in Hinduism. His ideals were followed by Chandravamsi rulers like kuru and Yudhisthira. The Mahabharata is named after him, as it tells the story of his descendants and their final destruction in kurukshetra War. The Dynasty of Bharat ruled till the rise of Magadha, when the kurus followed a republican tradition. The greatness of the Lunar Dynasty was gone and it was finally annexed to the Magadhan Empire.

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