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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: reeti.poly

sita was though was a strong character but she was not a princess who is warrior. As jodha baai or laxmi baai.. these two scenes are different
but yeah she must be lifting the Pinaka that has shown here.

nevertheless she is looking nice and she will do well 😳 But i really dun wanna see the whole ramayan track here... because with DKDM I started watching it because of gaining knowledge and to see there interpretation
regarding shiv puran and other mahadev parvati related story... but I really doubt they have completed all the stories of mahadev from all the puranas.. This is not done to show mahabharat and ramayan for 6 months. A strange way really . 😳

acrtually yes, she was not a warrior princess, but being a prncess, she will have atleast some trainign in formal war knowledge
and Valmiki ramayan also suggests her to knwo some war skills, thought she didn't show them of being shy and out spoken
so may be it was shown that way
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: JanakiRaghunath

That is what I thought too, maybe she was lifting the Pinaka...but even that looks a bit odd since she looks like she was using the bow. Well, we'll see I suppose, though I have stopped watching the show ever since they began distorting Ramayan. I'll keep reading WUs until they get back on track with the story, and stick to Mahadev's Shiv Puran instead of showing other puranas.

Nahi di, generally Sita lifts the Pinaka, and just checks its thread by giving a small aim, if u see clearly there was no arrow in her hand
So it was a scene of lifting Pinaka
she wasn't using it 😉
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Nandiniraizaada

Angie12

totaly agree with you but there is a difference between a strong charecter and a warrior princess

i never sais seeta was a week character

How could she ever be week she was Mahalakshmi after all

Anyways Rubi is looking preety👍🏼

Nandini, I agree that a strong person may not be a warrior princess as the strength comes from within and is not demonstrated by either fighting or screaming. So you are right when you say that.
As far as Sita being shown as a warrior princess, she did not have to fight with Raavan's army to do so. Shiv's dhanush was not something anybody could pick. I read in one of the interpretation that it required a great skill. So if Sita could lift it, then she had to have that certain skill which comes only from training. That's why I always thought of her as having this fighting spirit.
As far as Ramayan is concerned, there are several interpretations based on the time period and location a particular interpretation was written. Tulsi Ramayan was written during the Mughal period when Akbar was the king. It was a conservative era where women were not allowed much outside. Meera, Tulsi and several others belonged to an era called "Bhakti Yug" (era of devotion). So Tulsi wrote it as such.
Tulsi's Ramayan is a great piece of literature. But his interpretation has more of black and white characters. He even showed that real Sita was not kidnapped and it was her shadow. So his Sita was a strong person but still was more of a soft character. Tulsi Ramayan is of course the most famous of all versions.
Many 20th century writers have shown Sita having warrior type skills that she utilized in jungles when Ram was fighting all those demons. Sita lived alone with Ram and Lakshman. So it is quite possible that she had fighting skills too. So I do not see anything wrong in showing Sita as a sort of warrior princess as long as basic story remains the same. Of course, everything depends on execution.
In Mahadev, they do show stuff that I have never heard of So it is possible that they may show outlandish stuff regarding Ramayan too But as long as the execution is good and Sita is not shown a helpless character the way she is shown in most TV serials and movies, I will be okay with it.
I am not trying to hurt anybody's religious sentiments as everyone has an image of their own Gods. But I am talking just purely from an analytical view.
By the way, I think I have read some of your posts in Maharana Pratap forum. You do have a good knowledge of history.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#34

Originally posted by: reeti.poly

sita was though was a strong character but she was not a princess who is warrior. As jodha baai or laxmi baai.. these two scenes are different
but yeah she must be lifting the Pinaka that has shown here.

nevertheless she is looking nice and she will do well 😳 But i really dun wanna see the whole ramayan track here... because with DKDM I started watching it because of gaining knowledge and to see there interpretation
regarding shiv puran and other mahadev parvati related story... but I really doubt they have completed all the stories of mahadev from all the puranas.. This is not done to show mahabharat and ramayan for 6 months. A strange way really . 😳

Reeti, I agree that she cannot be compared with Lakshmi Bai and be shown fighting Raavan and his army. But still she can be shown to have fighting skills. There were many princesses of that era that were given training to fight etc.
It is more than likely that she is lifting Pinaka here. But again I don't find it wrong if they do show her as a partial warrior princess. As I wrote before, there are many interpretations of RAmayan and Mahabharat based on one's vision and era. I have read some beautiful interpretations where Sita was shown to be this character who was more of Ram's equal in everything.
I just watched last Friday's Ramayan and I liked that episode. So I hope that they show much better execution for adult characters of Ram and Sita and do not run after TRPs as is usually the norm with TV shows these days.
I have only seen Mahadev off and on as I do like Mohit who plays Shiv. But many times I have not liked their stories or interpretations, so haven't watched this show regularly.
Showing the full Ramayan and Mahabharat is just their way of stretching the show. But if Ramayan is well made, then I don't mind it. But so far I have yet to come across any version of Ramayan on TV that I have liked that much.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: JanakiRaghunath

Of course Sita was a strong character, but one need not show her as a warrior princess to show her as strong. She was strong in mentality and in personality, but she did not fight in wars. If DKDM's version of Ramayan will show her as a Jhansi Ki Rani type character, then that is inaccurate. Sita was both shy and outspoken. She was gentle as well as firm.
As for weeping, it does not symbolize weakness. To show Sita constantly weeping would be annoying, yes, but even Valmiki writes of Sita's despair in Lanka. Just read the Sundara Kanda. There are nearly 2-3 chapters that talk of Sita's despair and frustration where she is contemplating taking her own life. When Sita's abduction is shown, obviously she will be shown weeping in some scenes, or else it would be unrealistic. Her strength came from the fact that she survived living in an enemy's place for 10 months, without her faith in Ram unwavering.

Janaki, I agree that warrior princess is not needed to show somebody's strength. Yes, she did not fight with Raavan's army and I hope that it is not shown. She was in captivity with no resources. So how could she fight? But she did have leadership skills. She did manage to turn many of demon women against Raavan and on her side.
As far as showing her with knowledge of weapons, she had to have it if she could lift Shiv's dhanush so easily. After all, only ParshuRam and Ram could do that besides her. So I do not think there is anything wrong in showing her having knowledge of weapons etc or showing her practicing with bows/arrows. Also I have read in some interpretations that when Ram was fighting all these demons for 13 + years, Sita too was part of it.
I never said that weeping implies weakness. I am saying that depictions of Sita as shown constantly crying in TV serials represent a weak person. Of course, in moments of despair it is very human to almost give up or even cry. So I do not have objection to her shown as crying when she was kidnapped by Raavan or in her lowest moments in captivity. But the constantly weeping woman who only talks softly or whose life is solely shown around her husband is the interpretation of TV serials/movies because that generates TRPs just as mahaan sacrificing bahus generate TRPs. Was that real Sita? In my opinion, that was not Sita.
It was not only in Ram that her faith did not waiver. It was also in herself that her faith did not waiver either. If it had waivered, she would have never survived being pregnant and alone. She would also have given the second test and gone back with Ram. She did not do either and that shows a person with tremendous pride.
Edited by Angie12 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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wow Rubina looks lovely as Sita😊wonderful views on Sita by everyone👏loved reading them😊hope DKDM show Sita as a Strong character 😊
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Posted: 12 years ago
#37

Originally posted by: Angie12

Janaki, I agree that warrior princess is not needed to show somebody's strength. Yes, she did not fight with Raavan's army and I hope that it is not shown. She was in captivity with no resources. So how could she fight? But she did have leadership skills. She did manage to turn many of demon women against Raavan and on her side.

As far as showing her with knowledge of weapons, she had to have it if she could lift Shiv's dhanush so easily. After all, only ParshuRam and Ram could do that besides her. So I do not think there is anything wrong in showing her having knowledge of weapons etc or showing her practicing with bows/arrows. Also I have read in some interpretations that when Ram was fighting all these demons for 13 + years, Sita too was part of it.
I never said that weeping implies weakness. I am saying that depictions of Sita as shown constantly crying in TV serials represent a weak person. Of course, in moments of despair it is very human to almost give up or even cry. So I do not have objection to her shown as crying when she was kidnapped by Raavan or in her lowest moments in captivity. But the constantly weeping woman who only talks softly or whose life is solely shown around her husband is the interpretation of TV serials/movies because that generates TRPs just as mahaan sacrificing bahus generate TRPs. Was that real Sita? In my opinion, that was not Sita.
It was not only in Ram that her faith did not waiver. It was also in herself that her faith did not waiver either. If it had waivered, she would have never survived being pregnant and alone. She would also have given the second test and gone back with Ram. She did not do either and that shows a person with tremendous pride.



In vedic times, women were not taught warfare. In fact, in the Dwapar Yuga Satyabhama is the first mythological lady to have learnt warfare, and Sita was much before her time.

Sita lifted the Shiva Dhanush not because she had knowledge in warfare, but because she was an incarnation of Adi Shakti. Many Kings during the swayamvar had knowledge in warfare, but that did not mean they could all lift the Shiv Dhanush. Sita was a devout lady who always prayed to Devi Parvati, so she had Lord Shiva's blessings too, which is another reason she could lift the dhanush.

Sita as written by Valmiki Ramayan was also a soft spoken lady. She only spoke harshly when needed, but otherwise she was described as a soft and sensitive woman whose life revolved around her husband. She was one of the Pancha Mahasatis, so she was a very devout wife, no doubt about that. Showing Sita shed tears during distressing situations doesn't make her weak. It just makes her human, and since she was born as a human, she did express human emotions during every moment of her life, such as joy, anger, and sadness.

I don't think the soft-spoken lady whose life revolves around others is the interpretation of TV serials or movies. If you read either Valmiki or Tulsidas, that is how Sita's character is written. She was not Draupadi or Satyabhama, who were far more outspoken and had a cutting tongue. Of course, Valmiki does write her as a stronger lady than Tulsidas, but he does not write her like a character comparable to Draupadi. Sita was Sita, and there is only so much modification TV serials can do without changing her character.

Anyway, we're all analyzing this new pic of Rubina's too much. 😆 I doubt Sita will be shown as a warrior princess, at least I hope not! I bet she is just lifting the Shiv Dhanush in this pic...or this could just be an offscreen pic of Rubina too where she's playing with Piyush's bow. 😆
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Posted: 12 years ago
#38

Originally posted by: Angie12

But as long as the execution is good and Sita is not shown a helpless character the way she is shown in most TV serials and movies, I will be okay with it.

I am not trying to hurt anybody's religious sentiments as everyone has an image of their own Gods. But I am talking just purely from an analytical view.



I do respect your opinion, but I just don't understand why you think Sita is shown as a helpless character in previous shows or movies. I have understood from your previous posts that you take Valmiki to be the ultimate source, right? What is so different from TV serials' portrayal of Sita than Valmiki's? Valmiki has never written Sita as having martial arts skills. He has never written Sita as an independent woman before Uttar Kand. He has always written her as a devout wife whose life revolved around her husband.

I am not saying TV serials have been 100% perfect. No serial has ever been perfect, including DKDM, but for the most part serials based on the Ramayana have gotten Sita's character 85-90% accurate. Some serials have shown her a bit weepier than others, and some have shown her a bit fiercer than others, but all the serials have shown her more or less as Valmiki has written her.

I don't think we can judge the Gods based on our views on feminism today. Sita was a very strong and independent woman based on the standards of Treta Yuga. Many woman back in those times would not have survived in such a society by themselves, but Sita raised two children all by herself without help from anyone. She was a strong lady, but that did not mean she learnt martial arts and fighting skills. It's just not realistic for me.

Edited by JanakiRaghunath - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Guys, I am wondering if it's even possible to discuss Our Hindu Epic in a way to suggest that we know what we are talking about, unless corroborated in a language that will make sense to us in this kalyug.
Bhagwad Gita, for example, is meant to be understood and applied in our daily lives through the conversation between Lord Krishna and Arjuna.
And perhaps by watching all the 454 episodes, who knows I may understand as much as you all seem to.😊
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Posted: 12 years ago
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we do not know the whole mythology or about the true events behind them, but we are trying our best to understand it.

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