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Posted: 13 years ago

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I agree with you that the concept of Brahman and the concept of the Abrahamic God are two entirely different things!

And anyway, the concept of Brahman and Atman was developed over time in the Upanishads. Not *all* streams of Hindu thought have uniform ideas about this.

For me, I love the fact that one can be atheist and still be Hindu (the Charavakas for example)...there was space and room for dissent...which we sadly seem to be losing these days.

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Posted: 13 years ago

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Originally posted by: RadhaHiBawari

I know! We are indeed manifestations of that supreme soul, but the difference is that we are like tiny particles of him. We're like water droplets and he's the infinite ocean. We might be made of the same substance, but it wouldn't make sense to compare the two. And I love how Krishna bhakti is so personal. People can worship him as a father, brother, best friend, or even husband! What other religion has that?

Lol, I grew up in Mumbai! well, the first six years of my life anyway. I can make it through any type of "bheedh" in India. I'll definitely add Nadia to my list! Won't be able to go to India this summer, so maybe next year. Next weekend we're heading West! Pura Las Vegas aur Grand Canyon dekh ke aayenge.

Well there are many schools of thoughts in it. one of it is,we r not really droplets. We are infact one and same with the Brahman. The day we attain the supreme knowledge, we will attain salvation. Thats the basic of advaita vedanta sadhana.

Back to your krishna Bhakti, yes its not just krishna, although due to Bhakti movement, it has been more or less stressed on krishna. In tanra , you can worship the holy mother as your mother or as awoman you can worship Shiv as your husband. krishna movement is however more widespread because there has been expressions of all the navarash of sadhana and their personifications in his life. Yashoda did vatsalya, Gopi Prem, Radha Shringar, Sudama sakhya, ram and hanuman is the supreme example of dasya vab. They say there are 19 different Mahavab and radha is the personification of all these 19 Mahavabs, that is why she is Bhabamayee. Shree Chaitanya is described as duality of radha and krishna : that in his love for Krishna personified the 19 Mahabhabs of radha.

Lots of deep talk.

Girl, I grew up in the land of traffic congestion and unruliness Kolkata , and have been fighting in kalighat temple all my life, Still i am scared to go to puri in rathayatra . but if you can do it, its heavenly. To feel the inspiration, the love that brings so many people together , making them one, you can feel the vibration and sense of being one.

have fun travelling and post pics of grandcanyon here

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Posted: 13 years ago

#413

Originally posted by: narangi_77
@Tanni

I agree with you that the concept of Brahman and the concept of the Abrahamic God are two entirely different things!

And anyway, the concept of Brahman and Atman was developed over time in the Upanishads. Not *all* streams of Hindu thought have uniform ideas about this.

For me, I love the fact that one can be atheist and still be Hindu (the Charavakas for example)...there was space and room for dissent...which we sadly seem to be losing these days.

yup yup yup.

I am glad you got what i meant.

I am not very knowledgable about vedas or upanishads, but i know more or less, ancient sages had the self realisation of the uniqueness of infinity and self and took to worship symbols as a way to concentrate and look deeper inside.

Exactly. I also love the fact that i can be a bhakt of Ram or Krishna and yet question some of their more human actions. I have never seen any of my m friends ever putting any q on The Prophet( PBUH).

Its a way of self preservation. remember the middle ages? I wish if we regress, we regress back to upanishad era in term of freedom of religious thought.

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Dazzler

Posted: 13 years ago

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Originally posted by: tannipartner
yup yup yup.
I am glad you got what i meant.
I am not very knowledgable about vedas or upanishads, but i know more or less, ancient sages had the self realisation of the uniqueness of infinity and self and took to worship symbols as a way to concentrate and look deeper inside.

Exactly. I also love the fact that i can be a bhakt of Ram or Krishna and yet question some of their more human actions. I have never seen any of my m friends ever putting any q on The Prophet( PBUH).
Its a way of self preservation. remember the middle ages? I wish if we regress, we regress back to upanishad era in term of freedom of religious thought.

@BOLD: Exactly! However, we seem to be getting more and more narrow minded.

Have you read Amartya Sen's Argumentative Indian? LOVE that book! It describes how questioning, dissent and difference of opinion was very much a part of Hindu philosophical thinking.

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Posted: 13 years ago

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Originally posted by: narangi_77

@BOLD: Exactly! However, we seem to be getting more and more narrow minded.

Have you read Amartya Sen's Argumentative Indian? LOVE that book! It describes how questioning, dissent and difference of opinion was very much a part of Hindu philosophical thinking.

nope, i haven't read a good book in a long while. I used to be such a bookworm and now it seems i am only reading geeky comics.🤓