Right or Wrong - who determines that? - Page 7

Originally posted by: chatbuster

sure about that? dont camels do the equilavent thing of stocking up?😉

now even taking your example, why is going hunting after other animals even if u are hungry a decidedly "right" thing to do? isnt that also a matter of perspective? one animal's meat is another animal's hide😉

Could be because Domino's Pizza doesn't deliver there?😊 Now I don't think you want me to go into the obvious and discuss animal life, but I am sensing you are debating for the heck of it or fun of it maybe.😛

Although we think of ourselves to be center of the universe and judge with our limited capability , our logic pales when compared to laws of nature.

Simply put death is absolute universal truth to all living things and right to life is a moral construct for human beings. Right to life supersedes all other rights in our moral and legal systems... but not always as it is evident in war times, decision to kill fetus when mothers life is threatened or in self defense - so killing to us can be both wrong and right not because of relativism but due to laws of nature..when armed with morals we get confused with the duality when the focus must be from nature's point of view- on feeding not on killing .. this was my point about animals not hunting as a hobby but to feed themselves..Rights and duties are not one and the same. one doesn't necessarily have right to live (as is evident by one's station in food chain) but one has duty/dharma to live as long as they can. This is inherent in our DNA and we don't have to think if and when it is right or wrong.. I feel one will end up doing the right thing if one follows duty then when the action is to fulfill one's own rights or whims..

Originally posted by: Gauri_3

..............I suggested to my girlfriend that I give her a piggy-back ride to the phone. Since we didn't want to miss the call, we didn't have time to get dressed. When we got to the bottom of the stairs, the lights suddenly came on and a whole crowd of people yelled "SURPRISE!". ...........

😆 😆 funny .. and begs the question - when did stupidity become right thing to do... 😛

Originally posted by: lighthouse

😆 😆 funny .. and begs the question - when did stupidity become right thing to do... 😛

that was the whole point of that joke lighty........that they looked stupid coz they got caught😉...remember, they tought they were alone in the house😆😆 u shd read it with the post i had preceding this joke😆

Originally posted by: Gauri_3

that was the whole point of that joke lighty........that they looked stupid coz they got caught😉...remember, they tought they were alone in the house😆😆 u shd read it with the post i had preceding this joke😆

I see just don't get caught.. 😆 now if they wanted to do the right thing, they would have taken phone off the hook before getting busy.. 😉

Originally posted by: lighthouse

I see just don't get caught.. 😆 now if they wanted to do the right thing, they would have taken phone off the hook before getting busy.. 😉

tabhi bola na to an extent, we all pick our rights and wrongs ourselves at the end of the day. now, what's right for u may not be right for them...who knows whose phone call they were expecting...that info was not given😉😆

Originally posted by: lighthouse

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Simply put death is absolute universal truth to all living things....

...and death is hereditary too😆 show me any one race whose ancestors did not die😛

hey, just in a goofy mood here. actually liked ur post😊

Originally posted by: lighthouse

Could be because Domino's Pizza doesn't deliver there?😊

good thing too. not healthy if u ask me. after all, why have processed meat when u can have fresh kill😛

Now I don't think you want me to go into the obvious and discuss animal life, but I am sensing you are debating for the heck of it or fun of it maybe.😛

and you would be dead wrong. which is why let's debate on issues not on faulty interpretations of other people's motives. shall we?😉

Although we think of ourselves to be center of the universe and judge with our limited capability , our logic pales when compared to laws of nature.

Simply put death is absolute universal truth to all living things and right to life is a moral construct for human beings. Right to life supersedes all other rights in our moral and legal systems... but not always as it is evident in war times, decision to kill fetus when mothers life is threatened or in self defense - so killing to us can be both wrong and right not because of relativism but due to laws of nature..when armed with morals we get confused with the duality when the focus must be from nature's point of view- on feeding not on killing .. this was my point about animals not hunting as a hobby but to feed themselves..Rights and duties are not one and the same. one doesn't necessarily have right to live (as is evident by one's station in food chain) but one has duty/dharma to live as long as they can. This is inherent in our DNA and we don't have to think if and when it is right or wrong..

sure. DNA. 😛only problem is that everyone's DNA leads them to a different sense of right or wrong on at least the important issues of the day, issues that lead them to killing each other. nvmd as long as they all think they are right, no?😉

I feel one will end up doing the right thing if one follows duty then when the action is to fulfill one's own rights or whims..

lol. so apparently it's ok for animals or anyone else to hunt down others when they are hungry. now how about the guy who's being hunted down for food. that ok by him/ her/ it? pooch kar dekha?😛 how if someone's one of the last two people on the island, wld it be "right" to eat the other guy up for lunch in case that's what their DNA required for survival? wld that be their dharma? btw, is that some new religion or what? another one that folks fight over?😆

point is none of these questions has the kind of clear cut right/ wrong answers that you or qwerty would have us believe. even folks in religious epics found the "right" thing hazy. things are never childishly black and white even to the most astute of individuals, so when we pretend they are, we are probably the ones just trying to debate for the heck of it, not others.😉

Originally posted by: Gauri_3

...and death is hereditary too😆 show me any one race whose ancestors did not die😛

hey, just in a goofy mood here. actually liked ur post😊

maybe u can try explaining it then😛

Originally posted by: chatbuster

maybe u can try explaining it then😛

😆😆 i knew it was coming😆

i sure can try if u tell me why r u guys debating over what's right for the animals and then connecting it to how humans behave!!!😉

Originally posted by: Gauri_3

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i sure can try if u tell me why r u guys debating over what's right for the animals!!!😉

that's not the point, but if that's what u see, then i suppose someone's gotta stick up for the animals. that's why. 😛