Should Employers be held accountable

There is a topic on two weeks notice

But what about the responsibility of employer the otherway around when they choose to dismiss, lay off or not hire people.

Most employers by law are expected to give valid legal reason like performance, misconduct, ethics violations, attendance - while firing an employee. If there is no good reason employers are legally accountable.

Considering the high amount of lay offs taking place as jobs are taken overseas - Should employers present comprehensive report of their cost saving decision to support their decision? Should they provide reliable guarantee that their overseas operations are not sweatshops? Should the government hold the company legally viable if they do not produce justified business reason?

Another situation I have seen is the generic rejection letter for job applicants that just states - we picked someone else. I have seen two people with exact same qualifications apply and one gets interview and the other is rejected. Should employers be expected to be more transparent in their hiring process and prove that they have fair hiring practicies? Should employers be obligated to cite specific reason on why an applicant was rejected "Lacked so and so experience" "Did not have so and so degree" "Poor interview" "Lied on resume" "Mistakes on Resume" "Lacks so and so skill". This serves two purposes employer justifies their decision and shows fair hiring practices, applicant knows what they lack and can work on it.

Considering the tight job market and increasing unemployment rates would more stringent controls on hiring and firing bring about a slight sense of ethical performance in businesses?

Why only rejected interviewes? Vendors, banks, insurance agencies, mastercard and Amex, commercial landlords, towns, states, health insurance companies, office supply stores, microsoft and apple, dell, IBM, HP, limo service, airlines, janitorial services, pizza delivery shop and everyone and anyone who does business with the employer and is competative in pricing and services with others in their field have a right to demand the reason for being rejected over another company this employer choses to do business with.😉

Originally posted by: return_to_hades

There is a topic on two weeks notice

But what about the responsibility of employer the otherway around when they choose to dismiss, lay off or not hire people.

Employers with thier big fat lawyers and bundles of papers to sign at time of joing has most of the stuff covered in thier favor. Reason why it is asked for employee to follow some norms that employers don't...

Most employers by law are expected to give valid legal reason like performance, misconduct, ethics violations, attendance - while firing an employee. If there is no good reason employers are legally accountable.

Depends on constract...some can just kick you off with same day notice...Otherwise on longer contract they need to give notice ...in case of big shots who fear being sued by employee..if they really wanna kick yaa off....but they cover thier ground..like net for personal use in office hours is not allowed...and if by mistake in order to safe credit dent....paid a bill from office network..u are gone for good...If no fault they would frustrate the employee ot leave...

Considering the high amount of lay offs taking place as jobs are taken overseas - Should employers present comprehensive report of their cost saving decision to support their decision? Should they provide reliable guarantee that their overseas operations are not sweatshops? Should the government hold the company legally viable if they do not produce justified business reason?

I so will vote and love that... first justify why u hired and justify why you are firing... if obvious reasons presented for firing then why on earth did he hire..lolsss

Another situation I have seen is the generic rejection letter for job applicants that just states - we picked someone else. I have seen two people with exact same qualifications apply and one gets interview and the other is rejected. Should employers be expected to be more transparent in their hiring process and prove that they have fair hiring practicies? Should employers be obligated to cite specific reason on why an applicant was rejected "Lacked so and so experience" "Did not have so and so degree" "Poor interview" "Lied on resume" "Mistakes on Resume" "Lacks so and so skill". This serves two purposes employer justifies their decision and shows fair hiring practices, applicant knows what they lack and can work on it.

Diff topic...So much to say on this one...but dreams are calling without notice, ethical or unethical idc lolss right now don't know..am already zzing😆 ...would add more if time premits tomorrow...

Considering the tight job market and increasing unemployment rates would more stringent controls on hiring and firing bring about a slight sense of ethical performance in businesses?

Yes it will...some conroll would definetely help in exploitation from either parties...i.e emploer and employee

Originally posted by: return_to_hades

Lol it does sound extreme to expect justification for everything. Sometimes it is tough for employers too.

The reason I started thinking of it because recently I have seen some people get shafted by some very shifty hiring practices, and saw a person promote his clueless brother in law to a management position.

You know Lighthouse sometimes that kind of accountability you mention is not too far from reality. Many businesses have faced problems with their executives buying/selling/partnering with only those firms that offer them 'perks'.

It is really a tough situation - there are some companies that employ very unethical practices and conduct things in a shady manner. However, at the same time keeping tabs could be extreme - but I would not be surprised if someday Sarbanes Oxley like laws would govern everything a business did.

Oh but they do.. It's called EEO laws... discrimination in hiring is illegal as far as I know.😊

Originally posted by: return_to_hades

The thing is that companies do have to comply with EEO and other laws for fairness. Sometimes the discrimination is not based on gender, race or anything. Sometimes it just boils down to the fact that people tend to hire people who they may know instead of the more qualified candidate.

Most of the information I have heard is second hand information and I admit that passing down the grape vine facts do get twisted and distorted and resentment and other emotions change facts.

However, I personally know of two instances where a highly qualified candidates were passed over for not so honest reasons. I know for sure because in one instance the manager clearly told me that she was playing favorites and in the other instance the guy promoted (quite a dumb guy really) was bragging about how he 'blackmailed' his way to his position.

i'd think favoritism happens more easily in jobs where it probably doesn't matter too much who one puts in charge. sure it happens in critical slots too, but imo less frequently. if someone's business depends on a rain-maker, they'd be short-changing themselves imo to put a crony/ relative in charge if they were incompetent. cant get away totally from market economics. but on the other hand, cant force someone to like/ promote a person and there's no point cribbing about it. if someone does not like it, they can always move on and get all the promotions they think they deserve, elsewhere.😊

Originally posted by: chatbuster

i'd think favoritism happens more easily in jobs where it probably doesn't matter too much who one puts in charge. sure it happens in critical slots too, but imo less frequently. if someone's business depends on a rain-maker, they'd be short-changing themselves imo to put a crony/ relative in charge if they were incompetent. cant get away totally from market economics. but on the other hand, cant force someone to like/ promote a person and there's no point cribbing about it. if someone does not like it, they can always move on and get all the promotions they think they deserve, elsewhere.😊

well said. can't waste time whining and bickering about it. find the next oppurtunity before it finds someone else.😛