Vegetarian Vs Non Vegetarian

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Originally posted by: mythili_Kiran

Dada ..why are you roaring like Royal bengal tiger😛

@ Tiger Souro dada: Agree! Even the rig vedic times and vedic traditions,puja...have MEAT prasad to GOD's.....Is'nt the procedure called BALI....fortunately or unfortunately....GODS are non vegetarian....

I donot exactly know from which point..the vegetarian concept of GOD occured....vedic times..all the offerings of animals was there.....

I think ...not sure....As the man developed.....as he became more civilized...as he learnt growing crops.....as he learnt.....farming ..he learnt proper utilization of the resources in nature.....the VEGETARIAN CONCEPT EVOLVED....I wonder if people in old stone age....were vegetarians😛

coming back to Raj ji's question of no NV days of a week.....it just shows that HUMANS somewhere feel in the mind /heart that ..eating NV is not a good thing..its a rakshasa nature...rakshasa...means not divine....so we humans want to understand Daiva (godly ) matters..once in a while...so then ..they want to do only divine things on those days...so some donot eat non veg on those days...

But...

Sunday is for Sun GOD(Surya) The Devata of Sun is Siva hence it is also a days of Siva

Monday is for Shiva

Tuesday is for Hanuman For Muruka and Kali/ Durga here in Kerala.

Wednesday is for Saraswathi/Ganesh In Kerala it is for Sri Krishna

Thursday is Saibababa In Kerala it is for Vishu

Friday is for Lakshmi For kali and all other Devi's including Lakshmi

Saturday is for Vishnu/Balaji..... Here it is for Ayyappa/Sasta

So which day should we skip..which GOD is less😛

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These just show...some traditions are for our convinience😆

I agree with your Vedic referenceand explaination about vegetaianisam. In vedas it is clearly said about animal sacrifice.

Originally posted by: nitasuni

I agree with your Vedic referenceand explaination about vegetaianisam. In vedas it is clearly said about animal sacrifice.

Wohi tho!

I don't understand from where this VEGETARIANISM evolved...from which point of history this BRAHMINS and other so called VEGETARIAN tribes evolved.....

I feeel happy if anyone helps me on this matter😛......

Originally posted by: mythili_Kiran

I think ...not sure....As the man developed.....as he became more civilized...as he learnt growing crops.....as he learnt.....farming ..he learnt proper utilization of the resources in nature.....the VEGETARIAN CONCEPT EVOLVED....I wonder if people in old stone age....were vegetarians😛

Even before man learnt farming they used to eat vegetables and fruits, through what's known as gathering. And can you really say that people who are vegetarian are more civilised. Somehow, during the ancient ages when Indians were non-vegetarians, they were more advanced. Later they became vegetarians, and whatever did they achieve?? The vegetarian population of India (especially Brahmins), from the middle ages and even today, associate a snob value to being vegetarian and look down on others who are non-vegetarians. So, what great things have they done by becoming vegetarian?? Infact all rubbush laws and rituals were made by them in the middle ages. And even now when Indians feel so great for being vegetarians, people (including those very vegetarians) are all the time running away to other countries, having predominantly non-vegetarian food habits, for better oppurtunities. Hah, some greatness we're always talking about.

Originally posted by: souro

Even before man learnt farming they used to eat vegetables and fruits, through what's known as gathering. And can you really say that people who are vegetarian are more civilised. Somehow, during the ancient ages when Indians were non-vegetarians, they were more advanced. Later they became vegetarians, and whatever did they achieve?? The vegetarian population of India (especially Brahmins), from the middle ages and even today, associate a snob value to being vegetarian and look down on others who are non-vegetarians. So, what great things have they done by becoming vegetarian?? Infact all rubbush laws and rituals were made by them in the middle ages. And even now when Indians feel so great for being vegetarians, people (including those very vegetarians) are all the time running away to other countries, having predominantly non-vegetarian food habits, for better oppurtunities. Hah, some greatness we're always talking about.

Now Now...Thats what s called extreme generalisation

Myth isnt totally Incorrect...Before Man started farming, he gathered food..Bt then such edible plants were not found in one region ie. he needed to search for them...And he also hunted animals.
After he started farming, He cud grow eatables at a place and hence it became convenient for him to obtain it that way...So FOR THE SAKE OF CONVENIENCE as well, he started Prefering vegetables and cereals over Animals...Pretty natural I wud say...

And for that Most Indians thing, A lot of Indians are Non vegetarian...Vegetarianism by culture is Rampant only in North India..(evolved becuase of Abundance of Cereals there)
Fish is a major food in West bengal, Goa, parts of South India etc simply becuase of Abundance...

And the ANCIENT AGE If u mean Vedic age ppl were Predominantly Vegetarians only though meat was offered in sacrifices... If you meant Indus civilisation, wheat and Barley were their staple crops

AND even today a lot of ppl are Vegetarians by choice.....Not because of any rule.. (That includes me too simply )...

And I personally have never met anyone PROUD of being a vegetarian Though I am definitely proud of The Wide variety of vegeatian and Non vegetarian ( Yummy Mughlai for one) dishes Indian cuisines have to offer😊

Originally posted by: Ritika2025

Now Now...Thats what s called extreme generalisation

Not generalisation but the truth. South Indian brahmins who work in temples, won't eat together with people who're non-vegetarians (even if they're having vegetarian food at that time). And many vegetarian act as if how can someone eat non-vegetarian food.

Myth isnt totally Incorrect...Before Man started farming, he gathered food..Bt then such edible plants were not found in one region ie. he needed to search for them...And he also hunted animals.
After he started farming, He cud grow eatables at a place and hence it became convenient for him to obtain it that way...So FOR THE SAKE OF CONVENIENCE as well, he started Prefering vegetables and cereals over Animals...Pretty natural I wud say...

I'm not saying that whatever Myth said is incorrect. Human are omnivorous, everyone knows that, so consuming meat is also pretty natural. It has nothing to do with civilised or uncivilised and it certainly doesn't prove the same.

And for that Most Indians thing, A lot of Indians are Non vegetarian...Vegetarianism by culture is Rampant only in North India..(evolved becuase of Abundance of Cereals there)
Fish is a major food in West bengal, Goa, parts of South India etc simply becuase of Abundance...

That's the point, many are non-vegetarian here but those who're vegetarian act superior. What you said I'd already mentioned in another thread, that food habits are mostly determined by availability. But there are some here who try to prove vegetarians as superior to non-vegetarians.

And the ANCIENT AGE If u mean Vedic age ppl were Predominantly Vegetarians only though meat was offered in sacrifices... If you meant Indus civilisation, wheat and Barley were their staple crops.

We're not talking about staple crops here. Everyone consume vegetables, it's whether they consume meat or not.

AND even today a lot of ppl are Vegetarians by choice.....Not because of any rule.. (That includes me too simply )...

And I personally have never met anyone PROUD of being a vegetarian Though I am definitely proud of The Wide variety of vegeatian and Non vegetarian ( Yummy Mughlai for one) dishes Indian cuisines have to offer😊

D'uh, can that be because you're a vegetarian yourself. But there are people who act superior because of that. If you want some example look in this forum itself and you'll find it.

Originally posted by: souro

Even before man learnt farming they used to eat vegetables and fruits, through what's known as gathering. And can you really say that people who are vegetarian are more civilised. Somehow, during the ancient ages when Indians were non-vegetarians, they were more advanced. Later they became vegetarians, and whatever did they achieve?? The vegetarian population of India (especially Brahmins), from the middle ages and even today, associate a snob value to being vegetarian and look down on others who are non-vegetarians. So, what great things have they done by becoming vegetarian?? Infact all rubbush laws and rituals were made by them in the middle ages. And even now when Indians feel so great for being vegetarians, people (including those very vegetarians) are all the time running away to other countries, having predominantly non-vegetarian food habits, for better oppurtunities. Hah, some greatness we're always talking about.

Hey You! What's the issue😊......Am not bothered to degrade any one ..You can count me into that sect of PROUD VEGETARIAN BRAHMIN😊....I really feel proud for being a VEGETARIAN and I respect more the people who turn to VEGETARIANS by choice...I agree with you there are tons of PSEUDO BRAHMNINS who just pose to be VEG Brahmins but literally die for NON VEG FOOD.

FOOD Habits NEVER MAKE A PERSON SUPERIOR TO OTHER...

But the issue is DOES THE DIET WE EAT HAVE IMPACT ON OUR THOUGHT PROCESS AND OUR EMOTIONS......

If it has impact..then all the VEGETARIANS....make this WORLD A BETTER SOCIETY....AN INTELLIGENT WORLD.....but ..is it happening in reality is the issue....

As far as my knowledge is concerned...the diet we have DEFINETELY has its IMPACT on our Thought and intelligence.....most of the people who eat GHAS PHOOS are sharper than people who eat lot of meat.....

When you look at mythological stories....Rakshas..Demons....used to kill humans and animals and they used to have them as they are.....it was depicted that those Rakshas..did'nt have much brain..they had only body ..but no brains...this is KEY POINT used in several mythological stories...to extend the stories further..in the glorification of the GODS....

say for instance..this stirring of milk ocean story..rakshas and devatas..both stirred the milk ocean..the foolishness of the Rakshas is cleverly used by the GODS and the AMRUT is taken away from them.....these mythlogical stories just convey the message of morals in interesting manner...

Originally posted by: Ritika2025

Now Now...Thats what s called extreme generalisation

Myth isnt totally Incorrect...Before Man started farming, he gathered food..Bt then such edible plants were not found in one region ie. he needed to search for them...And he also hunted animals.
After he started farming, He cud grow eatables at a place and hence it became convenient for him to obtain it that way...So FOR THE SAKE OF CONVENIENCE as well, he started Prefering vegetables and cereals over Animals...Pretty natural I wud say...

And for that Most Indians thing, A lot of Indians are Non vegetarian...Vegetarianism by culture is Rampant only in North India..(evolved becuase of Abundance of Cereals there)
Fish is a major food in West bengal, Goa, parts of South India etc simply becuase of Abundance...

And the ANCIENT AGE If u mean Vedic age ppl were Predominantly Vegetarians only though meat was offered in sacrifices... If you meant Indus civilisation, wheat and Barley were their staple crops

AND even today a lot of ppl are Vegetarians by choice.....Not because of any rule.. (That includes me too simply )...

And I personally have never met anyone PROUD of being a vegetarian Though I am definitely proud of The Wide variety of vegeatian and Non vegetarian ( Yummy Mughlai for one) dishes Indian cuisines have to offer😊

Hi Ritika ji!

Welcome to Debate Mansion...

Thankyou for such a nice post😊

Originally posted by: mythili_Kiran

Hey You!

Hey at yourself.

What's the issue😊......Am not bothered to degrade any one ..You can count me into that sect of PROUD VEGETARIAN BRAHMIN😊....I really feel proud for being a VEGETARIAN and I respect more the people who turn to VEGETARIANS by choice...I agree with you there are tons of PSEUDO BRAHMNINS who just pose to be VEG Brahmins but literally die for NON VEG FOOD.

FOOD Habits NEVER MAKE A PERSON SUPERIOR TO OTHER...

No, you feel especially proud for being a vegetarian and as an afterthought add that food habits never make a person superior. You should first realise that it's just a food habit and nothing to be proud about.

But the issue is DOES THE DIET WE EAT HAVE IMPACT ON OUR THOUGHT PROCESS AND OUR EMOTIONS......

If it has impact..then all the VEGETARIANS....make this WORLD A BETTER SOCIETY....AN INTELLIGENT WORLD.....but ..is it happening in reality is the issue....

See, there you go again, as if only vegetarians can make this world a better place. As of now non-vegetarians are doing a far better job of that.

As far as my knowledge is concerned...the diet we have DEFINETELY has its IMPACT on our Thought and intelligence.....most of the people who eat GHAS PHOOS are sharper than people who eat lot of meat.....

You got some proof?? Or are you making your statement based on some study likes of which are published everyday in newspapers.

When you look at mythological stories....Rakshas..Demons....used to kill humans and animals and they used to have them as they are.....it was depicted that those Rakshas..did'nt have much brain..they had only body ..but no brains...this is KEY POINT used in several mythological stories...to extend the stories further..in the glorification of the GODS....

say for instance..this stirring of milk ocean story..rakshas and devatas..both stirred the milk ocean..the foolishness of the Rakshas is cleverly used by the GODS and the AMRUT is taken away from them.....these mythlogical stories just convey the message of morals in interesting manner...

So, now you want me to believe in mythologies too and take them as the ultimate truth. Next time please do better than that.

Ok...here is an objective and Neutral approach to it

Vegetarianism vs Non vegetarianism
Pros and COns

Pros
It is a fact that the non-vegetarian diet contains cholesterol and saturated fatty acid. These are the root cause of problems like coronary heart disease, cerebro-vascular accidents (strokes), eye diseases and high blood pressure. In a non-vegetarian diet, only 60 % of its content is useful for human body, rest 40 % contains harmful and toxic products. In addition to it, non-vegetarian diet is generally heavy for stomach and produces acidity(Animal bodies have 10 times the amount of HCl than it shud be in our body), which in turn can cause many diseases of gastrointestinal system.


Another significantly important difference between vegetarian and non-vegetarian diet is that the former contains dietary fibers whereas non-vegetarian diet is lacking in fiber. These dietary fibers are very useful for human body because it has been observed that the people who eat diet rich in these dietary fibers have low incidence of diseases like coronary heart diseases, cancer of intestinal tract, piles, obesity, diabetes, constipation, hitatus hernia, diverticulitis, irritable bowel syndrome, dental caries and gallstones.

CONS
Vegans face the risk of inadequate vitamin and mineral levels. Vitamin B12 deficiencies
are found in vegans, and this deficiency can lead to irreversible nerve deterioration
These vegetarians are also at risk for iron-deficiency anemia, not only from exclusion of animal products, but also because of the high dietary fiber content of foods such as soy protein, bran, and fiber. The dietary fiber in these
foods actually inhibits iron absorption. Protein deficiency must also be guarded against, which
can lead to loss of hair and muscle mass, along with abnormal accumulation of fluid

P.s. Research has proven It...Google it or I can provide the Links..

Food habit and life style does Have an effect on BODY, dunno about the sharper Bit, bt yeah Definitely more Alert...