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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: Maya_M

In my opinion as long as arranged marriages remains as a tradition in our society we would have some necessary evils like dowry as part of our custom. Don't get me wrong because I had an arranged marriage too😊. My reasoning is when it comes to arranged marriages parents always want the best for their kid. So a girl's parents would seek a guy with better qualifications and job. In case of guy's parents they would want a girl from a good family preferably well off. So they conveniently exchange gifts and cash without giving it any name. This is not just in rich society but also prevalent in middle class families. How many parents would let their daughter marry some guy with a low income job? If they want a guy who makes good money then can we blame the guy who seeks a girl from a well to do family? Why would the guy go for a girl with no money or family name? Don't take it as my support to dowry. I am just pointing out the mentality which leads to this give and take business. In most cases these days, guys don't even ask dowry but simply seek a girl from a well to do family so they are sure of good gifts, cash and property. Girls' parents too give more than they could to maintain their status in society. In such cases anti-dowry laws doesn't make any sense. I have seen IPS marrying an only girl of a rich family and settled well for life. Now his salary is simply a perk.

I agree that in arranged marriage parents give gifts to the bridegroom but today it is not like that. Is it necessary for an equally qualified, equally employed, equal or more salary drawing girl should bring dowry, since most of the communities girls are entitled to part of parents wealth. Now it is going on here.

At the time of my marriage in my community, other than girls ornaments, a gold chain not less than 5 sovereign has to be given to the bridgroom . But now the girl should give a similarly weighing bangle to the mother in law when she enter the house after marriage in addition to a gold chain gold chain. Now a bridegroom who is going for daily wages is asking for more than 50 sovereigns of gold and dowry not less than two lakhs rupees in addition to the share of property owned by the parents. It is for a girl who is working as a plus two teacher with a post graduation and a BEd. degree. The boy is studied upto plus two.It is only an example. There is no option, employed, studied girls are a lot.

It is not exagerating, even in my age group, if it was not love marriage, it was very difficult to get a boy of equal qualification and job with out dowry. As you said if the girl is from a well to do family and have no sisters and only brothers she may be lucky enough to get a boy with out dowry.

Now the situation is different, most cases girls are more educated and having good job but in the marriage market they have to give dowry. Situation may be slightly different if parents/siblings are in foreign countries. one of my collegues daughter, a software engineer get married to a Gujarathi boy of equal status , both employed overseas before marriage, but boys family demanded dowry, girl's mother gave the amount. Now the gril is forced to ask for the part of the property in which my collegue is residing after two months of marriage. Is it correct.

Edited by nitasuni - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: lighthouse

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Also the last statement is very true - add pride to that. I don't know anyone who would be happy to watch TV everyday or drive in a car provided by his in-laws.😛

instead mostly they like to drive the wife nuts 😉😆 😆........ok ok don't kill me guys 😳😆

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Just saw on TV a few days back about a couple.... they had come on Aaj tak and wanted police protection or something.... its incident from bihar....

The guy is working in Singapore while the wife is staying with in laws.... and they press her for getting money from her home... they dont give her food, beat her etc.... she calls her bro, who takes her home.... then the in laws call them up for money and threaten to beat them up if not given....

this guy comes from singapore takes his wife and goes home.... but in laws dont let them in as they have not got money.... and again start beating them and her bro.....

so finally this couple goes to aaj tak.... now here the main point is why did they not try to go to police.... or is it that the police in their place was corrupt or in hands of in laws.... we dont know many such cases happening.... the laws for anti dowry are definitely required.... but its implementation has to be based on investigation.... 😊

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: kabhi_21

Just saw on TV a few days back about a couple.... they had come on Aaj tak and wanted police protection or something.... its incident from bihar....

The guy is working in Singapore while the wife is staying with in laws.... and they press her for getting money from her home... they dont give her food, beat her etc.... she calls her bro, who takes her home.... then the in laws call them up for money and threaten to beat them up if not given....

this guy comes from singapore takes his wife and goes home.... but in laws dont let them in as they have not got money.... and again start beating them and her bro.....

so finally this couple goes to aaj tak.... now here the main point is why did they not try to go to police.... or is it that the police in their place was corrupt or in hands of in laws.... we dont know many such cases happening.... the laws for anti dowry are definitely required.... but its implementation has to be based on investigation.... 😊

If the in laws are powerfull, as in many cases the police help themm to go free or forced the other party for a compromise. Now a days meadia-especially t v channels showing incedents straight from the spot give a relief to the high handness of powerfull people, thus people go to channels.

Edited by nitasuni - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: kabhi_21

Just saw on TV a few days back about a couple.... they had come on Aaj tak and wanted police protection or something.... its incident from bihar....

The guy is working in Singapore while the wife is staying with in laws.... and they press her for getting money from her home... they dont give her food, beat her etc.... she calls her bro, who takes her home.... then the in laws call them up for money and threaten to beat them up if not given....

this guy comes from singapore takes his wife and goes home.... but in laws dont let them in as they have not got money.... and again start beating them and her bro.....

so finally this couple goes to aaj tak.... now here the main point is why did they not try to go to police.... or is it that the police in their place was corrupt or in hands of in laws.... we dont know many such cases happening.... the laws for anti dowry are definitely required.... but its implementation has to be based on investigation.... 😊

i think the reason is police wouldnt be able to do much as the harassment is just perceived by the gal.. but by going to aaj tak they get the advantage of the haziness of perception.. like since dowry harrasment is there, she might "really" being harrassed...something media laps up masaledar stories anyway.. Veri Veri bad way of handling things...

Edited by qwertyesque - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
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i think the reason is police wouldnt be able to do much as the harassment is just perceived by the gal.. but by going to aaj tak they get the advantage of the haziness of perception.. like since dowry harrasment is there, she might "really" being harrassed...something media laps up masaledar stories anyway.. Veri Veri bad way of handling things...

@ bold , in dowery harassment cases it is not correct and in other cases such as political media involment is acceptable isn't it?

Please note that in dowery harassment cases it is not a case against women or men, it is against the family, which involve all, don't think it in a gender basis,it is a social evil.

Edited by nitasuni - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: Morning_Dew

Dowry , and now anti-dowry law is giving real hard time to people. unfortunately these issues are directly related to the most beautiful relation .

So what you guys think What is the solution of this problem ?

Solution:

bura mat dekho, bura mat suno, bura mat bolo. What else cannot help / curb these dakoos under aparon of traditions asking/giving/taking dowry. Ignore and Discourage... policy no point burning blood on that.

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: Morning_Dew

Well said my dear. Does that means people will have to rely on love marriages more😊?


some "cultures?" have the audacity to ask for dowry even in than scenario.. and then comes eloping 😉.
tabhi to kehtee hoon forget the whole system of marriage .. it is too messed up anyway.. make sure to love and be faithful..

subah se lekar shaam tak.. shaam se lekar raat tak.. raatse lekar subah tak subha se fir shaam tak.. bas pyaar karo..

watch this video..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4lr7H2WLiA
Edited by mermaid_QT - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: mermaid_QT


some "cultures?" have the audacity to ask for dowry even in than scenario.. and then comes eloping 😉.
tabhi to kehtee hoon forget the whole system of marriage .. it is too messed up anyway.. make sure to love and be faithful..

subah se lekar shaam tak.. shaam se lekar raat tak.. raatse lekar subah tak subha se fir shaam tak.. bas pyaar karo..

watch this video..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4lr7H2WLiA

wouldnt that kill somebody?. I mean its tough to go on and on non-stop...😆😆

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: qwertyesque

wouldnt that kill somebody?. I mean its tough to go on and on non-stop...😆😆



believe in love and never give up is the message basically.. 😳
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