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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: Believe

Thank god you only found,3,4 riots after partition...😆 Can you check again wats india's population...😊As far as india's concern...People having different religion more then 10,15+ religion living together, and its world 2nd populated country..so small clashes its natural. and All hindus and muslim not always in tension mood, very little percentage .05% only have the probs...in a good group One person is enough to distroy that group image,same like that. I agree that there are some bad point also there...

30 years back China was in worse condition than India.
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All the folks out there tell your rich NRI dads to open up some kind of factories in India.


only 3 /4 incidences?? and just because the country has grown to be a billion people in number, thouands dying is no big deal?? Is that the logic now?
Would you face the people who lost their loved ones in the riots and say the same thing?

Again, why are we citing China? How does it reflect the impact of partition?

My dad is not NRI. When residents begin to respect other person's LIFE, and atleast not make comments such as " thousands dying is 'small thing'. " I am sure several NRIs would invest even more.. 😉

last but not the least, your calling kashmiri pundits' and bomb-blast victims' problems as MINOR only strenghthens my argument, that unity is in books. One doesn't feel the same agony for other states religions as they'd feel when they're affected themselves.
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: mermaid_QT


Vinu ji, the baseless comment was at the joke you quoted where the smart mouth calls american stupid 😛. It is a baseless statement. 😆😆

See.. ?? Chhote chhote problems? Do you even begin to fathom how big these problems are? I will give you two examples, and make it a bit personal with apology- ok no probs😊

1. Many ignorant poeplejudge every Muslim as a terrorist- ask them how they feel about it and where the shoe pinches.. Unclean partition has hurt them the most I say!

2. Can someone come and kick your entire community out of your state like the kashmiri pundits were kicked out of Kashmir?? Pandits still living there.. How Chhote Chhote will you find the problems then, leaving your property, your life, your identity behind and becoming refugees in your own motherland?? Refugees???? where you find now..its old story my sweet QT ji😊
Yeah.. dil hai Hindustani, cos neither do you come across as someone who has faced either of the above two scenarios😉.....If posible visit our rual areas and kashmir n like that place.They living happly. When katrina happen in US, how many homes n shops robbed, how many women raped.?...😳



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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: Believe

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1. Many ignorant poeplejudge every Muslim as a terrorist- ask them how they feel about it and where the shoe pinches.. Unclean partition has hurt them the most I say!

2. Can someone come and kick your entire community out of your state like the kashmiri pundits were kicked out of Kashmir?? Pandits still living there.. How Chhote Chhote will you find the problems then, leaving your property, your life, your identity behind and becoming refugees in your own motherland?? Refugees???? where you find now..its old story my sweet QT ji😊
Yeah.. dil hai Hindustani, cos neither do you come across as someone who has faced either of the above two scenarios😉.....If posible visit our rual areas and kashmir n like that place.They living happly. When karina happen in US, how many homes n shops robbed, how many women raped.?...😳

Oh! So my kashmiri pundit friends who were displaced and my husband's family was posted out of Srinagar - all are lying? Do you really believe kashmiri pndits still occupy kashmir? Being very fond of statistics, can you give me number? is it 1 still residing out of 3000?? 😉

rural areas in kashmir n like that place- yeah! lets find out who is living there happily. How many were actually living their happily in the 80s and lets compare, shall we?? Let's get real here. It is not funny, and it is not filmy!

Again, you are comparing US and Katrina. Since you won't give up, let us see how US citizens reacted to that chaos.


How many US citizens felt that Katrina jaisee CHHOTEE CHHOTEE baatein US jaise bade bade deshon me hotee rehtee hai? NONE! Not a single person called it minor.. US is 5 times bigger than India.. and that speaks volume of their unity in spite of not beating drums all around globe 😉

whereas, 7 major incidences I listed were labelled by you as minor and neglect-worthy since according to you "ONLY THOUSANDS DIED"- and none from your neighbourhood.

Wah re Hindustani 😉😉

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: mermaid_QT


only 3 /4 incidences?? and just because the country has grown to be a billion people in number, thouands dying is no big deal?? Is that the logic now?
Would you face the people who lost their loved ones in the riots and say the same thing? See i not supporting any type of riots n terrorisam. but Govt. controling the 95% of riots n terrorism in india, what about other countries...what about in Iraq, did US dummy govt, controlled? The differnce is indian people use the freedom of strick n protection aginst govt. but in other countries its not posible.

Again, why are we citing China? How does it reflect the impact of partition? realy are u in chinaa?😆😉😛such bolo na

My dad is not NRI. When residents begin to respect other person's LIFE, and atleast not make comments such as " thousands dying is 'small thing'. " I am sure several NRIs would invest even more.. 😉 Gr8😊

last but not the least, your calling kashmiri pundits' and bomb-blast victims' problems as MINOR only strenghthens my argument,it not only kashmiri pundits, if anyone put bomb they just not look whos minor or major, they try to distroy the nations unity.that unity is in books. *UNITY not in books* One doesn't feel the same agony for other states religions as they'd feel when they're affected themselves.

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Posted: 18 years ago
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1. I am not discussing other countries. You can not conveniently seggerate yourself from your Govt. Majority of you chose them after all! Also, that has nothing to do with partition. Unclean partition led to bitterness, that trickled into terrorism that has affected our growth in some ways. No incidence of terrorism should be called minor just because it wasn't in one's backyard 😉

2. I am neither Chinese nor ever been to China.

3. LOL @ the sentence about bombers try to disrupt nation's unity. does it really matter to majority what bombers destroy? they don;t even seem to know that majority of a whole state in the north was DISPLACED from there own land. We are happy being oblivious to what real life in kashmir still is like / was for the past 2 decades.. 😛 How do you want me to believe we are still united in adversity? We did not even bother to know that others were in huge trouble and whether they still are. 😆 We are clueless, but we like to call ourselves very united! 😉 yet secretly wish for jana gana mana not be our anthem 😆 Don't we?
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: mermaid_QT

Oh! So my kashmiri pundit friends who were displaced and my husband's family was posted out of Srinagar - all are lying? Do you really believe kashmiri pndits still occupy kashmir? Being very fond of statistics, can you give me number? is it 1 still residing out of 3000?? 😉rural areas in kashmir n like that place- yeah! lets find out who is living there happily. How many were actually living their happily in the 80s and lets compare, shall we?? Let's get real here. It is not funny, and it is not filmy!

ok agreee but its not indian Govt, problem.....a small unit of jihad people doing like that things.

Again, you are comparing US and Katrina. Since you won't give up, let us see how US citizens reacted to that chaos.


How many US citizens felt that Katrina jaisee CHHOTEE CHHOTEE baatein US jaise bade bade deshon me hotee rehtee hai? NONE! Not a single person called it minor.. US is 5 times bigger than India.. and that speaks volume of their unity in spite of not beating drums all around globe 😉

after freedom in US i mean in 250 years......i think you forget about US history...how many death,you put boomb in hiroshima naaga saaki laks died,slavey,color problems, womens rights,like that how many riots n death happen there.....with in 60 year india doing a gr8 job why u not accepting that😊

whereas, 7 major incidences I listed were labelled by you as minor and neglect-worthy since according to you "ONLY THOUSANDS DIED"- and none from your neighbourhood....

Wah re Hindustani 😉😉

About pundits Pakistan having embarked on the massive plan of annexing Kashmir with the support of Kashmiri terrorist outfits, how to eliminate Kashmir's Hindus, especially the Pundits, was now on Pakistan's agenda.There started a virtual war, an offensive mounted on India by the Kashmiri terrorists and Pakistani agents in full collusion and In the ensuing clash between Hindu and Muslim civilizations the whole wrath was naturally turned against Kashmir's indigenous people. all know that Kashmir is incomplete without Kashmiri Pundits ...and indian Govt. trying to do a safe shore across to plant their feet firmly on an assured future.

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Posted: 18 years ago
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i would keep myself out of naming any countries here since I dont work for intelligence to know who strategized what. there are always speculations- again- trouble rooted in an unclean partition my friend.

So now you read about Kash pundits being parted from their land and Govt's efforts. I never commented that Indian Govt was biassed against particular states. I said that CITIZENS are regional and do not feel equally for the adverrsities for others. I know Govt is and should be making plans to bring Kashmiris back to their own paradise (not just pundits, but the non-terrorist patriotic muslims too btw).
I am asking how many folks of other states including mine FELT really terrible and hurt for the past 20 years.

Few posts ago, a PROUD INDIAN in you called the blazing kashmir issue a CHOTEE see baat. If he does represent majority, tell me how united a kashmiri would feel with him! (not just you but all of us, who have not been bothered by kashmir, punjab, zaarkhand issues since their communities and states were peaceful and protected) I am done making my statements here.

I love india more than people can believe. Its rich tradition and sheer diverse gene pool reeking with intellect, art and talent. But that's that. To me, the other fancy words like democracy and unity and secularism are mere politically-cashing-terms, given how people react to / choose to ignore social and economic adversities faced by supposedly their own kind..

have a lovely! - QT
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: mermaid_QT

i would keep myself out of naming any countries here since I dont work for intelligence to know who strategized what. there are always speculations- again- trouble rooted in an unclean partition my friend.

So now you read about Kash pundits being parted from their land and Govt's efforts. I never denied that Indian Govt was biassed against particular states. I said that PEOPLE are regional and do not feel the same for others. I know Govt is and should be making plans to bring Kashmiris back to their own paradise (not just pundits, but the non-terrorist patriotic muslims too btw). I am asking how many folks of other states including mine FELT for the past 20 years. Few posts ago, a PROUD INDIAN called it a CHOTEE see baat. If you do represent majority, tell me how united a kashmiri would feel with you! (not just you but all of us, who have not been bothered by kashmir, punjab, zaarkhand issues since their communities and states were peaceful and protected) I am done making my statements here.

With in 60 years India gain a lot...but some places like india pak border, or in kashmir or gujrat riots like that things happening,Small group of peoples doing like that activities like premeditated, politically motivated violence perpetrated against noncombatant targets by subnational groups, it give bad image to thats true,If you check after partition what about inside Pak?? whats happening there, why still there millitery rule?why there internal shia sunni clash? bomb blast in masjit n other place,why?cos of Partition???😊

I love india more than people can believe. Its rich tradition and sheer diverse gene pool reeking with intellect, art and talent. But that's that and the other fancy words like democracy and unity and secularism are mere boom terms the way I look ar people reacting to supposedly their own kind..
have a lovely! - QT


Indians make india..............😊Why do we feel such a need to define what it means to be Indian? I think it is a partly due to the fact that i am part of the elite of a developing nation, whose cutural trends are highly borrowed from developed nations.a country where the familial unit is very important and indeed, marriages are considered unions between families, not just individuals,respect your elders by default,i read somewere "Every generation finds things we have in common, things that we share, things that we value and things that we can be proud of, and builds a nationalism out of it"

be a PROUD INDIAN 😊

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Posted: 18 years ago
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again, this debate is not abt our great culture. neither is it abt internal fights in other nations. but nvmd, u r missing the point altogether not to compare other countries with us.

if our actions spoke louder than our words, we can probablt prevent further damage. but ur responses indicate why i must be utopic 😉
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: mermaid_QT

again, this debate is not abt our great culture. neither is it abt internal fights in other nations. but nvmd, u r missing the point altogether not to compare other countries with us.

if our actions spoke louder than our words, we can probablt prevent further damage. but ur responses indicate why i must be utopic 😉

😳😕did i response in that way??? then sorry😊

😊, We are talking about partition and then you tell about Pundit probs, its all terrorism.....terrorism in kasmir or anywere in india,if it Hindu or muslim or cristain...all against that things.....its globely happening......what am trying to say that after partition some loss there thats true but when you check overall status...You can find lot of postive results...😊

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