Men Crying is Non Macho? - Page 9

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Originally posted by: MNMS

hmm.. well what i am gonna say is a bit serious and personal. But i had to say to men that please, there is no harm in crying. Actually when papa got heart attack and was declared to have a bye-pass surgery immediately, I and mom shed buckets. Papa was under most stress as his doctor also died at that time and.. i wanted him to cry a bit... talk and loosen his pain.. but he didn't. I guess it was a bit hard for him. The thing which most scared me that he kept his fears to himself when he was being prepared for the surgery..yes i and mom were there[we stopped crying at that time.. just to show courage to papa] but Papaz blood sugar wasn't coming down i guess it was due to bottling up of different emotions at that time 🤔

Though his doctors said that he is one of the most courageous patients he ever had. But i feel that if he had cried out a bit, and tried to vent out his emotions.. his physical being might not have suffered that much before the surgery.

Its high time that we should stop saying this to our boys "Roona mat! Brave bacche nahin rooote" 🤔

Sorry to hear about your dad. Hope he recovers soon...

If you think men dont cry because they dont want to show they are crying thats not what i am saying - all i am saying is that emotion is absent in them,,,😊

Worth reading....

http://www.womenshealthmag.com/article/0,6176,s1-21-79-1154- 1,00.html

Randy Cornelius, Ph.D., a psychology professor at Vassar College, is one of only a few dozen scientists in the world who study tears. The dearth of researchers may be due to the thorniness of even the simplest questions about crying. For instance: Why do women cry more than men?

"We're not sure," says Dr. Cornelius, who despite his sorrowful specialty is quite cheery. "There's been speculation it has to do with the way male and female brains are put together. But that hasn't panned out yet." He points out that up until children start school, boys and girls cry at equal rates, which suggests a societal root: Parents let girls sniffle but crack down on crybaby boys as they grow. The discrepancy could be an evolutionary adaptation, though. Crying, Dr. Cornelius says, is how we signal to other humans that we're vulnerable and in need. Women are good at vulnerability; we share our emotions as a sign of trust, and that trust helps us survive. But a male Survivor contestant who bursts into tears might as well tattoo "Vote Me Off" on his chest.

One substance being studied in connection with crying is the hormone prolactin, levels of which increase in women during puberty, menstruation, pregnancy, and breastfeeding, as well as when we're under stress. We average up to 60 percent more prolactin in our bodies than men. William Frey, Ph.D., biochemist and author of Crying: The Mystery of Tears, theorizes that prolactin lowers women's emotional bar by stimulating the endocrine system, which makes us more prone to tears.

And we do cry more — on average, 64 times a year, compared with 17 times for men. We cry when we're sad or frustrated or angry, whereas men cry at major losses, like death; when they get frustrated, they just get mad. Ask a man the last time he cried in front of someone else and chances are he'll have a hard time remembering. A woman won't.

But a funny thing happens as we reach midlife. Women cry less and get angry more 😆 — just as our levels of female hormones drop off, leaving a higher concentration of the male hormone testosterone. In men, a decline in testosterone makes for increased impact from their female hormones. And guess what? As guys get older, they get angry less — and cry more. 😆

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There is more in the article.

Originally posted by: SolidSnake

Worth reading....

http://www.womenshealthmag.com/article/0,6176,s1-21-79-1154- 1,00.html

Randy Cornelius, Ph.D., a psychology professor at Vassar College, is one of only a few dozen scientists in the world who study tears. The dearth of researchers may be due to the thorniness of even the simplest questions about crying. For instance: Why do women cry more than men?

"We're not sure," says Dr. Cornelius, who despite his sorrowful specialty is quite cheery. "There's been speculation it has to do with the way male and female brains are put together. But that hasn't panned out yet." He points out that up until children start school, boys and girls cry at equal rates, which suggests a societal root: Parents let girls sniffle but crack down on crybaby boys as they grow. The discrepancy could be an evolutionary adaptation, though. Crying, Dr. Cornelius says, is how we signal to other humans that we're vulnerable and in need. Women are good at vulnerability; we share our emotions as a sign of trust, and that trust helps us survive. But a male Survivor contestant who bursts into tears might as well tattoo "Vote Me Off" on his chest.

One substance being studied in connection with crying is the hormone prolactin, levels of which increase in women during puberty, menstruation, pregnancy, and breastfeeding, as well as when we're under stress. We average up to 60 percent more prolactin in our bodies than men. William Frey, Ph.D., biochemist and author of Crying: The Mystery of Tears, theorizes that prolactin lowers women's emotional bar by stimulating the endocrine system, which makes us more prone to tears.

And we do cry more — on average, 64 times a year, compared with 17 times for men. We cry when we're sad or frustrated or angry, whereas men cry at major losses, like death; when they get frustrated, they just get mad. Ask a man the last time he cried in front of someone else and chances are he'll have a hard time remembering. A woman won't.

But a funny thing happens as we reach midlife. Women cry less and get angry more 😆 — just as our levels of female hormones drop off, leaving a higher concentration of the male hormone testosterone. In men, a decline in testosterone makes for increased impact from their female hormones. And guess what? As guys get older, they get angry less — and cry more. 😆

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There is more in the article.

😆😆😆.. i knew there should be something hormonal in this..😆😆

Originally posted by: lighthouse

Crying for everything other then to express grief for loss of loved one is soooooooo overrated.... But even then not every one can cry to grieve... maybe they can't or they don't want to because crying may not be everyone's way of discharging distress.... People deal with sadness and grief in different ways.. some ways are learned and some inherent.... Pampered kids cry at losing their fav teddy bear or toy and underpreviledged or orphan kid may learn to deal with it without crying.... Both men and women suffer from this however to say only men do not cry is false..... Crying does not make everyone feel better or relieved...

People who want to cry but cannot and it bothers them should introspect and find out why..... Men who cry are said to be in touch with their feminine side but what about women who cannot cry? ...

Right LH. Regarding your last question - show those women some key kekta episodes if not anything else she will start crying due to peer pressure...😆

Originally posted by: qwertyesque

😆😆😆.. i knew there should be something hormonal in this..😆😆

Now I understand why Mayawati/Mamta etc keep screaming....😆

Originally posted by: egghatcher

good one taagda naag👍🏼 as always..

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Originally posted by: qwertyesque

Right LH. Regarding your last question - show those women some key kekta episodes if not anything else she will start crying due to peer pressure...😆

😆 Been there , done that...😉 Kekta serials make me laugh more ...!!!😆

And am not sure about the HORMONAL theory either...!!! because I see a lot of kids crying and am sure it has nothing to do with hormones... Her-mones are to be blamed in sports competitions against men though..!!!😉

Originally posted by: egghatcher

to quote maya ji below then..:

It is absolutely OK for men to show emotions rather than keeping everything bottled up. I am not talking about crying during movies or slicing onions but real emotions. I had an American colleague who cried when his GF dumped him and was moping around for days. Now I don't appreciate that kind of emotions. That is too girly. OK now I am off before the brickbat falls on me for being a hypocrite😳. i remember mentioning this earlier ( glad you found it mentionable ) and dont think reiterating just that makes you a hypocrite in itself ..

Eggy, since when did you start addressing me as 'ji'. Again I feel like a dinosaur😆.

To clear the air my mentioning Onions or hypocrite part had nothing to do with your argument. Infact I haven't been active on DM for few days because of my busy schedule so haven't been to any of the threads. I mentioned the hypocrite part because earlier in this thread I wrote that men should show emotions no matter what. When I remembered about that colleague of mine I thought that sometimes it irritates too.😆 So don't worry you can cry all you want slicing Onions.

Originally posted by: lighthouse

And am not sure about the HORMONAL theory either...!!! because I see a lot of kids crying and am sure it has nothing to do with hormones... Her-mones are to be blamed in sports competitions against men though..!!!😉

I was making sure the hormones discussed here are female hormones.

The theory of endorphins (also hormones, though not selectively female-hormones) being mood elevators is more than just a theory 😳

exercise-released endorphin info is well-documented here
http://www.portfolio.mvm.ed.ac.uk/studentwebs/session5/26/HO RMONES.html
there are obviously papers available that prove the connection between tears and endorphins widely available online at NCBI library as well as some valid news and articles on google😃