Ethics or Success. What’s more important? - Page 2

Originally posted by: Jatayu

What's that "Thank You" button meant to do? I clicked on it - ghalti se mistake ho gaya

So you just thanked vdevang for creativing this post. It is mainly useful when someone updates you with somethign and you don't want to write a post just saying "thank you". if you look at first page under vdevang's post it will say jatayu just thanked you 😉

Success ofcourse, after you are successful, you can write an ethics manual and that will become the gold standard😉

Originally posted by: sareg

Success ofcourse, after you are successful, you can write an ethics manual and that will become the gold standard😉

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A vary practical suggestion....

Like Donald Trump advising on ethics....

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Succes is important to me but with a level of ethical standards. It is hard to define that level but I won't walk over a friend or a partner in the circle of trust of mine to gain success. Such successes are usually short lived because you have just created a bunch of enemies who will spend the rest of their life looking for a way to show you down and how long can you avoid them. However, there are some instances where you have to compromise your ethics. I don't always tell truth but I don't lie...Sometimes I am forced to use the technique of prevarication. Again, I ensure that do not cross a certain limit of ethics that I set for myself.

Originally posted by: Jatayu

There is nothing called ethics. There is nothing called success.

One man's ethics is another man's poison - and one man's success could very well be another's doom.

The so-called ethical living - not harming others, doing good deeds, not wasting, sharing, helping, being a model citizen - is theoretical and illusory. NOBODY has ever lived like that. Nobody ever will.

And what is success? To some it is money in the bank; others may want pretty wives (or husbands); yet others may pray for sleep at night.

The human race is so vastly versatile and nature is so hoplessly interconnected that it is not possible to ensure that we never ever step on anyone's toes.

All we can do is ask ourselves this - "Have we done the best possible for ourselves?"

This may sound selfish to some. But it's true ...

Jatayu has reduced this important issue by a self-centric argument.

Ethical standards are well known and widely documented. Adhering to the law is a very simple example. Are we to discard this basic ethic just because it suits us? Taking care of one's family and dependants is another. Do we abandon them one fine morning just because it fulfills some selfish whim?

Standards of success are also common knowledge. A decent income and all that it brings with it is perhaps the very basic level of success.

And it is possible to be both ethical and succesful. One need not sacrifice one for the other. In fact, it is only the ethical person who is succesful.

Originally posted by: Jatayu

Jatayu has reduced this important issue by a self-centric argument.

Ethical standards are well known and widely documented. Adhering to the law is a very simple example. Are we to discard this basic ethic just because it suits us? Taking care of one's family and dependants is another. Do we abandon them one fine morning just because it fulfills some selfish whim?

Standards of success are also common knowledge. A decent income and all that it brings with it is perhaps the very basic level of success.

And it is possible to be both ethical and succesful. One need not sacrifice one for the other. In fact, it is only the ethical person who is succesful.

Jatayu ji!!! I'm sure you love Physics!!! You might have done your research in it may be a Post Doc also. At the beginners level of Physics only I'm like this !!!

Cheers,

Mythili

PS:Don't take it serious!!! I respect your views.

Originally posted by: mythili_Kiran

Jatayu ji!!! I'm sure you love Physics!!! You might have done your research in it may be a Post Doc also. At the beginners level of Physics only I'm like this !!! Cheers, Mythili PS:Don't take it serious!!! I respect your views.

What's Physics gotta do wid ethics ?

Originally posted by: ChameliKaYaar

Succes is important to me but with a level of ethical standards. It is hard to define that level but I won't walk over a friend or a partner in the circle of trust of mine to gain success. Such successes are usually short lived because you have just created a bunch of enemies who will spend the rest of their life looking for a way to show you down and how long can you avoid them. However, there are some instances where you have to compromise your ethics. I don't always tell truth but I don't lie...Sometimes I am forced to use the technique of prevarication. Again, I ensure that do not cross a certain limit of ethics that I set for myself.

I Concur!

I prioritize..Of all the ethics,I hold on to some like grim death,and there are certain others where I feel if and when the need arises,a little bit of compromising isnt iniquitous,provided it doesnt affect another person even in the remotest way!.. Like when it comes to studies,I consider ethics to be paramountly salient,I've never cheated till date,and wouldnt do so in future!Even if its the most important phase of my life,and cheating would help me achieve my goals,I wouldnt!...I am usually quite truthful,I loathe speaking lies,and would never speak a lie which might turn someone else's life topsy turvy or which would hurt someone who has reposed alot of trust in me,that's a principle and cardinal rule I've set myself,and I usually abide by the rules I've myself made...But perhaps tomorrow in the Corporate world,I'd have to compromise on my ethics(a ka those ethics which I consider are flexible) for the sanity of everyone concerned,I might compromise,albeit reluctantly...But those ethics,which I cling on to fervently,wouldn be compromised come what may! Period!

Originally posted by: Jatayu

What's Physics gotta do wid ethics ?

Oh!!! Ethics and Physics have a wonderful relation.Both are essential.Both are based on common sense.Both are practical but not theoritical.Both are interesting.Both are crazy.Both can never be understood completely.

cheers,

Mythili