Will Britain recognize Indian holocaust?

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While London has rushed to point the accusing finger at Serbs for the Srebrenica tragedy, the British have apparently forgotten their own shameful history of the genocide of the people of India, Rakesh Krishnan Simha told Sputnik.
While British policy makers are expressing their "righteous" anger over Russia's decision to veto their resolution on the Srebrenica "genocide" of 1995 discussed by the UN Security Council earlier this month, London should obviously look in the mirror and recall its own colonial past, New Zealand-based journalist and foreign affairs analyst Rakesh Krishnan Simha told Sputnik.

There is no need to delve deep into history, the analyst noted, referring to the infamous Bengal Famine of 1943-44 that can be classified as the greatest disaster in the subcontinent in the 20th century.

Citing Australian biochemist Dr. Gideon Polya, Rakesh Krishnan Simha underscored that the Bengal Famine was a "manmade holocaust" directly caused by UK Prime Minister Winston Churchill's policies.

"Bengal had a bountiful harvest in 1942, but the British started diverting vast quantities of food grain from India to Britain, contributing to a massive food shortage in the areas comprising present-day West Bengal, Odisha, Bihar and Bangladesh," the foreign affairs analyst narrated in his article "Remembering India's Forgotten Holocaust" in 2014.

Just in a year, the manmade famine had claimed the lives of over 3 million Indians.

The Famine in India: Natives Waiting for Relief at Bangalore
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The Famine in India: Natives Waiting for Relief at Bangalore

"Winston Churchill was just the last of the many murderous despots who presided over India's fate during the over 200 years of British rule. He said, "I hate Indians. They are beastly people with a beastly religion"," Rakesh Krishnan Simha told Sputnik.

Can We Classify the Bengal Famine as Genocide?

Can we classify the Bengal Famine as genocide? Genocide is a systematic killing of a people in great numbers and Churchill intentionally, and with open malice towards Indians, diverted grain from India to Europe, the analyst pointed out. He added that even when desperate pleas came from the administration in Bengal, Churchill refused to dispatch emergency food supplies. The UK prime minister even went so far as to blame Indians for the famine, saying that they "breed like rabbits."

"When the British representatives in India asked Churchill to stop diverting Indian food grains to Europe and to supply India with wheat from Australia, he replied: "If there is famine in India, then why is Gandhi still alive?"" the analyst remarked bitterly.

The Bengal Famine happened despite India being a food-surplus country with a bumper harvest that year, he stressed. And that had not been the first time when the British rulers facilitated food shortages in India.

Photograph of a South India family in 1878 by W.W. Hooper
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Photograph of a South India family in 1878 by W.W. Hooper

Rakesh Krishnan Simha stressed that during over 200 years of British rule, India saw at least two dozen major famines, which collectively killed 60 million people. The journalist added that the figure is based on numbers collated by British officials and economists and in reality it is significantly higher.

The analyst pointed out that during the 1877 famine in India, the only acquire to get some food was to work in the British labor camps. Within those camps, starving Indians received only 16 ounces of rice per day " less than the Jewish inmates of Buchenwald, the Nazi concentration camp of the Second World War.

One would say that India had faced famines even before the British colonial rule. However, "in the past 2000 years of Indian history, there were very few famine deaths because the Indian rulers ensured the well-being of the people through emergency food supplies and field kitchens," the journalist underscored.

India's Forgotten Holocaust

The history of manmade famines in India under the British rule can be obviously compared to the Jewish Holocaust of the Second World War, according to Rakesh Krishnan Simha.

"Hitler's hatred for Jews led to the Holocaust and Britain's malice towards Indians caused the deaths of at least 60 million Indians, including three million people during the Bengal Famine. Proportionately, the Bengal Famine was a holocaust on a bigger scale than the Jewish Holocaust. It took Hitler 12 years to murder 6 million Jews, but the British starved at least 3 million Indians to death in a 15 month period from 1943 to 1944. Indian estimates put the toll at 7 million," the journalist told Sputnik.

Rakesh Krishnan Simha pointed out that Hitler wanted to destroy the entire Jewish population of Europe because of race and religious reasons; furthermore, Hitler saw Jews as competitors in the German economy.

"Hitler also wanted to create Lebensraum in Europe for pure Germans. If you look at the history of English colonialism, they have created their own versions of Lebensraum in Canada, the US, Australia and New Zealand after the genocide of native populations," the analyst underscored.

"They [the British] may have wanted to do the same in India. But the British couldn't replicate armed genocide in India because Indians put up a ferocious counter attack and defeated the British in several wars. So the British may have decided to systematically eradicate Indians through famines. In fact, Churchill's scorched earth policy was intended to enfeeble the Indian population so the Japanese-armed Indian National Army which was planning to liberate India from the east would not find able bodied men in Bengal," he elaborated.

Why Does the Story of the Indian Genocide Remain Unspoken?

So, why does the story of the Indian genocide still remain unspoken? Why does the West that has recently rushed to blame Serbs for "genocide" of Bosnian Muslims remains suspiciously silent about its own hideous atrocities?

"First up, why would the US, UK, Spain or France admit at all to genocides they have committed? It is precisely because the scale of their own crimes is so staggering that they quickly latch on to other countries' internal problems. For instance, after an alleged 100,000 East Timorese were killed by the Indonesians, the West suddenly adopted the role of savior, conscience keeper and protector. It then invaded East Timor and illegally made it an independent country. It did the same in Kosovo," Rakesh Krishnan Simha elaborated.

"The UK and British immigrants in America wiped out Native Indians by the tens of millions. In Africa, the British massacred Kenyans," he added.

According to the journalist, considering the scale of the atrocities, the international community should conduct an official investigation into the Indian genocide.

"If the US Congress can condemn the Turkish genocide of Armenians a 100 years ago, then they can also censure Britain for even bigger holocausts in India. For this to happen, private Indian individuals must come forward to demand apology and reparations. There are a number of Indians who remember the holocaust and were affected by it," the analyst pointed out.

And there is a precedent, he stressed: "Kenya has asked Britain for an apology, and the British have rendered one."

However, there are a number of obstacles in the way of restoring justice. First of all it is not in the British interests to recognize such a hideous crime. Furthermore, the Indian elite have already established close ties with the British nobilities. Many of them have their children studying in American and British colleges, or have business connections, or have family living in Britain, Rakesh Krishnan Simha noted. Maybe that is why most Indians have no memory of these holocausts because they are not taught in Indian schools, the foreign affairs analyst emphasized.



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"However, there are a number of obstacles in the way of restoring justice. First of all it is not in the British interests to recognize such a hideous crime. Furthermore, the Indian elite have already established close ties with the British nobilities. Many of them have their children studying in American and British colleges, or have business connections, or have family living in Britain, Rakesh Krishnan Simha noted. Maybe that is why most Indians have no memory of these holocausts because they are not taught in Indian schools, the foreign affairs analyst emphasized."
Of course, the perception moulders you see on prime time have their pea-brained kids studying in the opium funded IVY league universities.

And NCERT books written by the likes of Irfan Habib and Romila Thapar ensure that kids are brainwashed that Brits brought us railways et al therefore we should be thankful to them.
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Druids... you are the DM version of tehelka... you can really bring out sensational perspectives to anything...😊
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Well the West in getting involved in the affairs of most countries has generally brought problems and suffering to the people. Most countries when they leave their own borders will end up causing problems to the country they attack. Their motive is to plunder, rob and kill for wealth. The Middleeast is one hell of a mess which the West should bear the blame too. We cannot deny the deep hatred most of them have for the West for continually poking their nose and bombing them and trying to be King makers.
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Originally posted by: qwertyesque

Druids... you are the DM version of tehelka... you can really bring out sensational perspectives to anything...😊


"If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who're being oppressed, and loving the people who're doing the oppressing." -Malcolm X
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Originally posted by: Summer3

Well the West in getting involved in the affairs of most countries has generally brought problems and suffering to the people. Most countries when they leave their own borders will end up causing problems to the country they attack. Their motive is to plunder, rob and kill for wealth. The Middleeast is one hell of a mess which the West should bear the blame too. We cannot deny the deep hatred most of them have for the West for continually poking their nose and bombing them and trying to be King makers.


The GCC members are in bed with the west. Is it any wonder that they're bombing Syria now.

And isn't it surprising that there was an Arab Spring in all the countries that had leaders hostile to the NATO hegemony. And yet countries like SA where the King has a separate National Guard for him and his family which employs no SA citizens but Pakistanis and Egyptians, has been immune.
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The contents of the first post in this thread are all over the place so let's just pick the subject and see where we go.

1. There is no historical evidence to what "Rakesh Krishnan Simha" claimed. If you find any, please feel free to update wiki's article on the Bengal famine of 1943. Let's see if wiki takes it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bengal_famine_of_1943


2. India is currently home to a quarter of all undernourished people worldwide.
https://www.wfp.org/countries/india

India is also the world's seventh-largest exporter of agricultural products. India's export growth over the past decade has been the highest of any country, with an annual rate of more than 21 percent.
http://www.fas.usda.gov/data/india-s-agricultural-exports-climb-record-high

How do you square the current high rates of malnutrition with the current high export growth rates? Let's see if you can argue without getting worked up and without some kind of verbal diarrhea. And please stay to the point, if you can.



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Originally posted by: K.Universe.

The contents of the first post in this thread are all over the place so let's just pick the subject and see where we go.

1. There is no historical evidence to what "Rakesh Krishnan Simha" claimed. If you find any, please feel free to update wiki's article on the Bengal famine of 1943. Let's see if wiki takes it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bengal_famine_of_1943


2. India is currently home to a quarter of all undernourished people worldwide.
https://www.wfp.org/countries/india

India is also the world's seventh-largest exporter of agricultural products. India's export growth over the past decade has been the highest of any country, with an annual rate of more than 21 percent.
http://www.fas.usda.gov/data/india-s-agricultural-exports-climb-record-high

How do you square the current high rates of malnutrition with the current high export growth rates? Let's see if you can argue without getting worked up and without some kind of verbal diarrhea. And please stay to the point, if you can.




So now wikipedia is the holy grail, eh.

Don't give me a laugh Sir. So malnourishment is the same as famine?

By your account, Sir, there is a famine in the US also.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2251318/Number-hungry-homeless-Americans-rises-2012-soup-kitchens-forced-shrink-meal-sizes.html

Growing poverty in the US:


http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jul/21/us-children-poverty-increasing-recession


Sorry sir, don't have time for arguments with sheeple. I reckon Russia Today is just not good enough for you. The worldwide MSM owned by 5 corporations will only do for you and they won't ever mention anything other than those certain typhus patients.

You can take your verbal diarrhoea elsewhere Sir, with all due respect.
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Scraping the bottom of the barrel, are we. Nothing left to debate here.

So there are high rates of malnutrition in India at the moment and according to your Merriam Webster definition, this is a result of famine. Am I missing something here Sir? Where was the famine in India recently?

You also gave figures of how India exports so many agricultural products when so many Indians are "malnourished". Sorry Sir, I missed it again. When did the recent Indian famine happen?

It may not be completely reliable but I think it's a good starting point where people collaborate to provide content with citations to external sources where necessary. Erroneous data is usually fixed right away so if your theory can stand the test of time on wiki, I would consider it as something plausible.

So just because MSM or wikipedia won't talk about it, it's untrue? Here's something else MSM doesn't talk about Sir but which is very much true, no question about it.

Washington has no savings, nothing. It is dead broke. Investors worldwide are dumping US treasuries. And yet, have a look at the AAA rating it gives itself. 😆


Why don't you do more research on US debt of 18.54 trillion dollars, 108% of the GDP and plus the $238 trillion that is never talked about, the "unfunded obligations". Remember the shameful US govt shutdown of 2013?

What caused it? There are differing accounts. You can't just settle on one haphazardly. There is no debate in that. We need more analysis, more deliberation, more back and forth... Spend your time wisely Sir.




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Originally posted by: Druids



So there are high rates of malnutrition in India at the moment and according to your Merriam Webster definition, this is a result of famine. Am I missing something here Sir? Where was the famine in India recently?

You also gave figures of how India exports so many agricultural products when so many Indians are "malnourished". Sorry Sir, I missed it again. When did the recent Indian famine happen?



"Where is the famine" is a trick question. The correct answer is "in India". If 1/6 of the billion plus population is undernourished, if India is home to the largest undernourished and hungry population in the world and yet if there is sufficient food production that "surplus" is being exported out, then yes, by definition there is, even though technically there isn't. Go figure!

http://www.indiafoodbanking.org/hunger

Reason I brought up the current stats is to point out that government policies of the past few decades could very well be causing the hunger issue to persist coupled with other factors such as exports, inflation, droughts and more, and these factors could very well have existed even back in 1943 (as "refute" to the original claim)

Hope you follow.

P.S: US debt has as much to do with this subject as you have to do with Mensa so unless you want to troll in the topic that you yourself created, please stick to famine / hunger.



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