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RamKiSeeta thumbnail
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Posted: 10 years ago
#61

Originally posted by: Gudakesha

Brilliant job by creatives of this post.

Hats off for bringing such sensitive issue which is brushed off under carpets in many Asian countries including India and Pakistan.

Unlike other countries, the reason why marital rape is not considered as a crime in India is not because of age old beliefs of a submissive wife is ideal wife kind of ideology. If that was the case then domestic violence and dowry cases would not have been punishable under law. But the reason is that it is difficult or rather impossible to tell if it was sex or rape between a husband and wife. We already see many fake dowry cases being filed against innocent families by few conniving women. We have to understand that if dowry cases are being difficult to scrutinize and differentiate between genuine and fake ones, then marital rape authenticity is just out of question.

The possible solutions?
Well unfortunately I don't have a solution for this heinous sin.
It is a catch 22 situation where the solution (read punishable under law) aggravates the problem.
Every second woman may just avenge her husband on trivial fights by slapping marital rape against him and he may not be able to defend himself.
People may be scared to marry in our country. A country where marriages are given a huge importance.

Yes, marital rapes are not punishable under law in our country. However, if a woman does not want to have sex with her husband she can get court's stay order before hand, according to which her husband is not allowed to approach her for sexual needs. If he does, then the woman will be medically examined and if rape is proved, then the man will be punished.

I feel it is the only solution for this problem. The lady has to get stay order before hand. For this every woman should be educated or made knowledgeable about her rights. Can we do that? Well, yes. We can.

But, again this is a country where we think about those "chaar log" than ourselves. The society will speak hundred ways on how a lady has got a stay order and is denying her husband his "sexual rights". Will the lady be strong enough to face such criticism? My answer: She should. If she is brave enough to think about when to have sex and if at all to have sex with her husband then she should be brave enough to fight the society too. We cant expect her to be served everything on silver platter. Want a right, fight it!


I personally liked the graphics used in this post. They symbolize the trauma faced by the victims so aptly. I also agree that sex education should be taught in schools, so that young people get first hand information from experts and doctors, not second and third hand and manipulated information through peers or through internet.






Well said! 👏 You wrote my thoughts exactly.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#62

Originally posted by: ..RamKiJanaki..

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Women can be rapists, and men can be victims too. Marital rape does happen against men, but many women rapists feel it's ok for them to rape their husbands, because no one ever says marital rape is not ok when a woman does it. No man ever feels brave enough to talk about his rape, because people laugh at him for not being "man enough".

This post would have been even better had it been against marital rape in general, not just marital rape against women.


Never heard or read about any woman raping her husband. It must be quite rare unlike the case of women and therefore not seen as a burning problem. Are any statistics available?
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Roadrunnerz

Never heard or read about any woman raping her husband. It must be quite rare unlike the case of women and therefore not seen as a burning problem. Are any statistics available?


This is the problem. The fact that so many people don't even know or think women can be rapists proves that we need to do a lot better understanding rape as a whole. Rape is not just something men do. Rape is a crime that even women are capable of.

It is true that more women than men get raped every year, no one is disputing that fact. However, more men are also get raped in recent years than before. Rape as a crime, for both genders, has increased all over the world.

Men also suffer from domestic abuse and marital rape. The problem is that so many men do not want to admit they are raped, because they feel people will not believe them (due to the inherent belief so many have that women are victims and men are perpetrators), and the men who do come out about it are mocked and humiliated. In the USA, more men are starting to receive empathy for being rape victims, but in India, where even women victims are mocked at for being raped, I highly doubt men have any confidence or trust in coming out about being victims.

Here are some statistics about rape in the USA. It covers the sexual assault of men, women and children.
https://www.rainn.org/get-information/statistics/sexual-assault-victims

I really couldn't find statistics on men being rape victims in India, but I did find a very good article which highlights the problem of Indian mindset when it comes to rape.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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The Often Ignored Reality Of Male Rapes In India, And The Need For Its Legal Recognition

Sep 26, 2014

By Sonakshi Samtani:

The discussion around feminism and women's safety has reached its peak in the online as well as mainstream sphere, but the real discourse about gender being a spectrum rather than an end, as highlighted by Emma Watson, is still not considered. An oft overlooked aspect of the same is the fact that men can be raped as well and there are multiple survivors walking among us who have nowhere to go with their plea since the society at large rejects the idea of men being raped. The same notion, as reflected in the Indian laws, is just another facet of the issue.

The Indian legislation refuses to acknowledge the fact that men can be victims of sexual violence. The Indian Penal Code is a glaring instance of this. The IPC Sections 354 A, 354 B, 354 C and 354 D, dealing with sexual harassment, disrobing, stalking and voyeurism, explicitly refer to men as the perpetrators of these crimes and women as victims. Similarly, Section 375 of the IPC, which deals with the definitions of rape and legal provisions against it, has no mention of rapes against men, it starts with "A man is said to commit "rape".." and goes on to define what rape would constitute in such a case, rape of a woman. It fails to provide protection to men against these.

The Sexual Harassment of Women at Workplace (Prevention, Prohibition and Redressal) Act, 2013, by its very name excludes men from the ambit of sexual harassment. The sheer ignorance towards this issue has more repercussions than one can expect it to have.

The last concrete step towards making rape a gender neutral crime was by the Justice Verma Committee in 2013."However, even The Verma Committee proposed that the perpetrator in rape be recognised in law as male'", writes Albeena Shakeel in EPW, "and the victim be "persons" (including females, males, transgenders). This was an acceptable proposal in law. However, the government's Criminal Law (Amendment) Ordinance, 2013' is distinguished by its thrust on viewing women as potential rapists."

While the fact that men can be raped might amuse some, or seem very trivial to the masses, this indifference towards sexual violence against men is a glaring example of how serious this problem is. Sadly, lack of legal provisions and social acceptance of men being raped by men or women, or men being at the receiving end of any form of sexual violence, is a reinforcement of the orthodox and patriarchal gender stereotypes. These stereotypes also pervade the sexuality of both men and women, and the society's starkly different attitudes towards both. While female sexuality is considered to be prized' and their virginity a matter of honour for the family, male sexuality is congruent to the stereotypical male aggression. Largely, men are expected to be sexually fearless, conditioned to be welcome to sexual advances.

"I believe that the recommendations of the Justice Verma Committee should be accepted in their entirety. Even though rape is an instrument which affects women in far larger numbers, the fact that both men in conflict situations and custodial situations as well as transgenders are also affected cannot be ignored, if you are sensitive to the question of human suffering. Instances of sexual violence in Abu Gharib perpetrated against male soldiers, as well as sexual violence inflicted on men in situations of caste and communal conflict in the Indian context should alert us to this grim reality" says Arvind Narrain, a lawyer at the Alternative Law Forum, Bangalore.

Popular culture does not refrain from portraying a less manly' or masculine' image of a male who refuses to accept female sexual advances. The concept of consent' from a man's side is seldom considered, and is assumed to be a positive given'. Men being forced into sexual activities is often portrayed as a positive experience for them, asserting their masculinity'. Therefore, most men wouldn't even be able to recognize an action as abusive or without consent.

A majority of the Indian society is averse to even the idea of homosexuality, let alone its acceptance in everyday life. Members of the LGBT community face corrective rape', often with the knowledge of their family or peers. The idea behind corrective rape' is that homosexuals are sexually disoriented, and therefore, a sexual encounter with a member of the opposite sex would correct it. This preposterous practice is very common, yet uncommon in social debates and discussions. Moreover, acts of harassment against the LGBTQI people, even by those in authority, go unnoticed and are trivialized.

Hence, the social stigma against the very concept of male rape and the unacceptance of men being sexually violated has led to little or no reporting of cases of sexual violence against men. In fact, at present, India has no concrete statistics for men as victims of sexual violence.

Men who have had forced sexual encounters can face severe psychological trauma (Post traumatic stress disorder), substance abuse, etc., and the trauma can be prolonged due to unavailability of any assistance. Most men do not even report cases of rape or discuss them with anyone, because of the stigma attached to it and due to the fear that it wouldn't even be considered as rape. As part of the newly amended Juvenile Justice Act, age of consent has been increased to 18, therefore, even cases of consensual sex between two teenagers are now termed as statutory rape, with charges filed just against the boy. This is problematic on several accounts.

It stands on a premise that women cannot and do not have sexual desires, therefore, a sexual intercourse between two consenting teenagers would account for a statutory rape, committed by the boy. It also reflects a very orthodox outlook of the Indian lawmakers pertaining to sexuality. Moreover, it does not take into account false charges of rape that could be posed against men.

Kavita Krishnan, secretary of All India Progressive Women's Association (AIPWA), says that "I stand by the Justice Verma Committee recommendations to make rape victims gender neutral. However, considering women as perpetrators of male rapes, according to the definition of rapes (including sexual assaults), in The Criminal Law (Amendment) Ordinance, 2013' is incongruous to the power structure in the society. Rape is not just a physical crime against someone, it is a social crime. I am not saying that women by nature cannot perpetrate sexual violence, however, it occurs only in exceptional cases. We don't come across overwhelming cases of sexual violence by women. It can be considered only in cases of custodial rapes or child rapes."

The only legal redress available to the male survivors are the charges under the recently reinstated Section 377 of the IPC, which can also be classified as an anti-sodomy law. However, this is problematic as it makes no apparent distinction between consensual and non-consensual sex between two males, and is a homophobic law, without any actual consideration for sexual violence against men. Moreover, it incorporates only penile sexual intercourse, victims of non-penile abuse essentially have no provisions in the law to their rescue.

It is time we stop trivializing sexual abuse against men. We need to start reflecting on the stereotypes that have led to a benighted approach towards sexual violence against half the population of our country.

http://www.youthkiawaaz.com/2014/09/male-rapes-in-india/

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Posted: 10 years ago
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I think the basic fundamental problem is the mindset that men are sexual beasts who enjoy having sex at all times, all places. This is a problematic mindset all over the world, but particularly in Asian countries.

This mindset perpetrates crime towards both genders. How? Here's how.

- Some men are brainwashed from a young age that they are entitled to sex and their wife is obligated to satisfy them whenever they have any urges. This can go vice versa too.

- Some women expect men to satisfy them, because they are brainwashed into believing that all men love sex and want to have sex with them at all times. They do not understand that not all men are sexual beasts.

Both these mindsets are terribly terribly terrible wrong, why?

- Such men (of the first mindset) tend to become marital rapists, because they do not care about how their wife is feeling or whether she wants to have sex. Their sense of entitlement doesn't allow them to take their wife's needs into consideration. They cannot understand NO.

- Such women (of the second mindset) ridicule their husbands who don't want to have sex. They ridicule their masculinity, they call them feminine, and they make them feel degraded just because they do not conform to the notion of the "typical man". These women tend to become marital rapists. They too cannot understand NO.


So don't create or encourage this mindset within your families, folks! Don't teach your sons that they are entitled to sex, don't teach your daughters that men are sexual beasts. Educate your children on what sex is, and teach them to respect each other. Teach them to respect their future partners, to respect other men or women.

NO ONE has a right to be raped, men or women. Unfortunately, it exists. Women may be raped more than men, no one is disputing that, but men are also raped, so do NOT send the message to people that men are rapists and women are victims. Neither men nor women are rapists or victims. Both victims and rapists exist in both genders.

Create awareness that rape is wrong for both genders. Rape is a disgusting crime in itself!
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Posted: 10 years ago
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@ ..RamKiJaanki.. - What you're saying is completely valid and I wholeheartedly agree with it. Abuse on male, sexual or otherwise, is often ignored and there is no explanation for the reason behind it. However, the purpose of this thread was to highlight the abuse on the women. We're not discounting the abuse on the men or are in favour of it by highlighting the opposite sex abuse. It was purely our effort to bring into focus the sexual abuse on women because they don't know they are being exploited.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: xbeyondwordsx

@ ..RamKiJaanki.. - What you're saying is completely valid and I wholeheartedly agree with it. Abuse on male, sexual or otherwise, is often ignored and there is no explanation for the reason behind it. However, the purpose of this thread was to highlight the abuse on the women. We're not discounting the abuse on the men or are in favour of it by highlighting the opposite sex abuse. It was purely our effort to bring into focus the sexual abuse on women because they don't know they are being exploited.


Oh yes of course, this thread was made with a lot of hard work and dedication, and I do hope it helps many women out there speak for themselves, but at the same time, this thread seemed to target the entire male community, especially that one post I pointed out which said that women were better than men. As a feminist, I just like to put forth that believing women are better is not feminism. Both genders are equal and not all men are sexual beasts.

I just think this thread would have been even better had it targeted sexual abuse as a whole instead of just one segment.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Marital Rape is Rape. A wound is a wound , to the body and soul .Rape is rape regardless of the relationship between the rapist and the victim.

The gift of reasoning differentiates humanity from the beasts !

Whether that rapist is your husband or a totally stranger .Rape is a very personal and intimate traumatic experience. Our experiences of and reactions to rape may differ widely, and although there are many similarities in the way that we feel about being the victim of rape, regardless of the relationship between us and the rapist,

I am only looking at rape and sexual assault on women, since this is by far the most common situation, though rape and sexual abuse also occur too frequently in same-sex , the other sex , and other relationships .

In the marital rape the circumstances are very different. It is quite apart from a physical and sexual violation - most importantly a betrayal of trust. Here is a person whom you thought you knew intimately, with whom you share a relationship, a home and quite often children. Here is a person whom you have made love to on a frequent basis, often over many years, with whom you have shared your most intimate secrets and fears, and whom you believe to love you, want the best for you, who would never intentionally hurt you. Marital rape is so destructive because it betrays the fundamental basis of the marital relationship, because it questions every understanding you have not only of your partner and the marriage, but of yourself. You end up feeling betrayed, humiliated and, above all, very confused ! A big shock !

When it is the same person whom you have entrusted your life to, who rapes you, it isn't just physical or sexual assault, it is a betrayal of the very core of your marriage, of your person, of your trust.

A marital rape has to be understood in the context of an abusive relationship . A lot of cases of marital rape will involve coercion and force to control the victim .

Main problem regarding the victims of marital rape is that , such instances are rarely a one-off, but a repeated if not frequent occurrence. This can be a huge issue to the victim, because she will feel as though she has somehow 'asked for it' by staying or putting herself in the situation where it can happen again.

Many abusers will also force their wives to submit to sexual acts after a physical assault, either to prove her forgiveness or to further intimidate and humiliate her - and if the wife should refuse such an act, even the threat of further violence will soon ensure her compliance.

The victim may also be so confused and numbed by constant emotional abuse, that she simply does not know how to act or react when sex is forced on her.

Sadistic pleasure from rape is also present in the minds of the perpetrators , since its effect on victim is often particularly humiliating, and intimidating because of her helpless condition .

What has to be remembered is that when you are living with your abuser, you are often very finely tuned to him, employing numerous coping mechanisms to limit the damage to yourself: you may realise either consciously or subconsciously that if you struggle, he is likely to get violent or take his anger out on you in other ways. Fear psychosis?!

Other reasons, a woman may not fight back are so as not to disturb children sleeping nearby,[ our's is a developing country , financial factors play an important role in such situations ] thereby risking them witnessing the rape , shock or confusion at what is happening which paralyses her; and real concern for her abuser, which results in her not wanting to do anything which may harm or injure her rapist even to the detriment of herself. Many sociological aspects play important role in this unnoticed domestic violence.

It would appear that where rape starts in an established relationship, that rape is often used by an abuser when other control tactics, such as isolation or emotional abuse are no longer sufficient to maintain his power and hold over her, or to punish her for either leaving or trying to leave. To suppress the freedom of a wife , the male chauvinists use this violent force to win over her .

Many women who are victims of marital rape have great difficulty in defining it as such. The traditional idea that it is impossible for a man to rape his wife and that somehow, in taking our marriage vows we have abdicated any say over our own body and sexuality, basically denied ourselves the right to say 'no', is still prevalent amongst wives as much as amongst their husbands minds . A wife being raped will often question her right to refuse intercourse with her husband, and while she may realise that legally it now constitutes rape, there are many reasons which may prevent her from report , or to reveal. Tolerating this trauma because of the Social stigma , a fear of extreme disapproval from her own family members , again reasons may vary !

Basically, it is an insult to our senses ,the perpetrator is none other than the our rightful companion , that fact is very disturbing and humiliating to us , we can no longer trust him, turn to him in comfort, gain reassurance and protection from his company and our home is no longer safe.

High time to question the violence against us ,right time to shift from the abuser , even though he is our husband , if our self -respect is at stake , let us take bold decisions .

Thread makers , hats off to you , a much needed topic to discuss about the painful facts
Edited by Snehamadhuri - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Wow 👏 This is amazing
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Rapes have become topics of heated debates now a days, and I feel, marital rapes, that is non-consensual sex between a husband and a wife should be more strictly punished that non-married rapes. I feel so because this is the outcome of Chauvinism and the idea of having dominance over one's wife in the man. They feel, everything they do and say is the truth. Once having married a woman, they feel they have acquired her, and can treat them like their property, doing anything they wish like. It's a sad state that our Constitution does not even recognize the need for consent by the wife before having sexual intercourse as important, and vital.
A marriage is between a man and a woman, an affair of equal, partnering people. And if one says No, I don't feel like, the other should understand, be it the husband or the wife. Raising awareness about the same is important, and I feel, before laws, we have to alter perceptions about the equation between the married couple.



You have chosen a very fine topic, and this needs to be voiced over.

-Niv

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